Republicans for Obama?

[madaboutharry]

Maybe they are sick of the past 8 years, sick of the war, sick of the economy...But, I am wondering if these voters are really going to vote for him in November. I'm a little confused.

[NightWatcher]

1. I dont buy it. I think it is a ploy to drive people to Hillary

Scare them away by joining the team.
I dont trust anything about the repukes

[OzarkDem]

22. No, they just want Dems to nominate the guy who can't win

Free pass by the news media, scandalous stories sit on the shelves, George Bush-style handling, no difficult questions, plenty of corporate money, GOP'ers crossing over in droves in the primary.

Yes, I've seen this before and the Dem doesn't win in the end.

[theHandpuppet]

2. Don't ask questions

Or you might get called a racist like I just was.

[yeswecan08]

3. With numbers like that, most of them will vote Obama

[OzarkDem]

23. Welcome to DU

been involved in politics long?

[LadyVT]

4. I believe they'd like to see him on the ballot...

now that McCain is pretty much a sure thing, he doesn't need their vote. A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain, especially after the conservative-backed documentary about Obama comes out this summer.

[Eurobabe]

8. Oh please,

sour grapes much? You just can't stand that maybe Obama appeals to a wide swath of Americans? It's so obvious that you are as paranoid as the person who screamed vast right wing conspiracy.

:eyes:

[aquarius dawning]

25. JFK didn't even carry VA. What makes you so confident that BHO will?

Is that the audacity of hope speaking?

[Eurobabe]

51. that was 40 years ago, VA demographics have changed

but you still have your thumb in your eye. :hi:

[aquarius dawning]

55. We'll see I guess.

[aquarius dawning]

62. By the way, VA is about 3/4 white today. It was about 3/4 white in 1960 too.

The first link shows the demographics of 2006. the second link shows thedemographics for 1960. As far as black/white demographics go, there's not much change. That being the case, what demographics are you talking about?


http://www.coopercenter.org/demographics/sitefiles/documents/excel/estimatesracehisp/2006raceestimatescb.xls

http://fisher.lib.virginia.edu/collections/stats/histcensus/php/state.php

[K Gardner]

5. A great majority of Republicans are people too. I know lots of people who

have voted R in the past who are now voting Dem.. and by a large plurality, voting Obama. Once a Republican, not ALWAYS a Republican. It isn't a permanent brand and the reasonable ones know Bush has screwed them and are ready for a change.

[Mme. Defarge]

17. Yup!

My best friend, who twice voted for Bush, likes Obama and will vote for him in the GE. But not Hillary. what a relief to finally be able to talk politics with her after all these years.

[Hav]

18. .

I kind of agree, there are times when people change from one party to the other.
A part of them might do it to avoid a certain candidate, but I surely don't see all Repub voters as FreeRepublic types who might have these kind of motives. Plus, the recent national polls against McCain show that Obama wouldn't do worse than Hillary.

[LSparkle]

6. Obamacans!

The reverse of the "Reagan Democrats" -- the "Obama Republicans" (or "Obamacans").

[Exultant Democracy]

21. The Reagan Democrats are comming home, like springtime after a long dark winter.

[BumRushDaShow]

53. That is EXACTLY what is happening.

All these so-called "Republicans" were Democrats before Reagan was elected in 1980. The real base of the repuke party is only about 25% - 28% of the population. People forget that Reagan was once a Democrat.

[madrchsod]

7. with mittens gone obama looks better than any rethug

the rethugs are not happy with any candidate but they will support who ever is the last man standing. look for the moderates to go for the democrat

[BringBigDogBack]

27. That's what I hear all of the time.

And that's in red (soon to be blue) state Texas....

[jedr]

9. That has me wondering also;

Have read that Obama is is DNC Dem and has ties to big business,,,maybe that's the connect. But in reality , all the front runners on both sides are centrists, ranging from left to right of center. On Edit: Obama is somewhat of a blank slate for many people and they seem to be plugging in their own meanings of "change".. at this point I'm tending toward him but not for his platform, but because I fear a Presidency of constant investigations and slander by the repubs's on the Clinton's resulting in gridlock with little being done to fix the mess.

[krabigirl]

10. I think many are voting for Obama to get rid of Clinton.

I don't think you can count on them voting for Obama in the GE. Most Republicans (that I know, at least) think (incorrectly) that he's very far left, almost a socialist. They are wrong...he's not even close, but still.

[cottonseed]

11. Republican Circular Logic

I hate McCain

- vote Hillary
- no, that forces me to vote McCain
- vote Obama
- yea, that's better

[OzarkDem]

16. Yes plenty of it here at DU these days

[NoBorders]

12. You mean like Susan Eisenhower? Believe it.

They're called Obamacans.

snip
Forty-seven years ago, my grandfather Dwight D. Eisenhower bid farewell to a nation he had served for more than five decades. In his televised address, Ike famously coined the term "military-industrial complex," and he offered advice that is still relevant today. "As we peer into society's future," he said, we "must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow."
snip


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/01/AR2008020102621.html

[OzarkDem]

13. No they won't vote for him in November

This is a very old trick. I'm surprised so many here at DU are falling for it.

Do they really think people who have hated the Dem party with a fierce burning passion for the last 15 years or so are suddenly going to fall madly in love with a one term Senator from Illinois who is supposedly "liberal"?

All those Rush and Coulter fans suddenly love Obama? Riiiiight.

No, I don't think so.

[aquarius dawning]

28. Try 40 -60 years OzarkDem. nt

[OzarkDem]

True

Does anyone think they want to become liberals overnight?
:rofl:

[aquarius dawning]

49. That's the audacity of hope right there.

[calico1]

35. I feel like I am witnessing a train wreck about

to happen and there isn't a damn thing I can do about it.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[AX10]

60. Same here.

[Hav]

43. .

Not everything is black and white. Some might never vote for a Dem, but not all are like Rush Limbaugh and Coulter. With several millions of them there, there are shades of grey.

[Exultant Democracy]

59. Sure and Regan won't get any democratic voters either... oh wait thats just stupid to say.

[xchrom]

14. i keep wondering about the word transformation and two conservative

elements vying for influence -- the dlc -- and possible republicans who find some vague appeal in obama.


oh well -- i voted for edwards -- and i'm content with that.

[goodhue]

15. They really are going to vote for him

they whisper it to him at rallies, he has been saying as much for weeks now

[Thrill]

19. When you consider who the Repuke nominee is

If you were a Republican with half a brain you would switch too

[Iktomiwicasa]

20. My two beads worth...

My rez is heavily Democrat, but the off rez communities are heavily Republican. I know many of them quite well....and yes, some are even friends of mine. I know a couple of formerly staunch Republicans who ARE genuinely fed up, and understand that another direction needs to found or we are all screwed. They have spoken openly about voting for a Democrat this cycle.

FWIIW

[BringBigDogBack]

24. I know several pubs who

not only have donated to his campaign, but have voted, or plan to vote for him. Crazy, I know.

I was suspicious/cynical at first, but they genuinely like and respect him.

One called himself an Obamacan. lol

[Maribelle]

26. This truly makes me sick.

Bush and his corrupt rubber stampers have caused so many hardships for americans, and here we have Obama supports gleefully bragging on these corrupt thugs, all the while sending strong hate messages to the millions of innocent democrats in Florida that have tried so hard all these years.

[OzarkDem]

29. And courting the people

who have worked and continue to work for destroying our party.

[OzarkDem]

30. And courting the people

who have worked and continue to work for destroying our party.

[BringBigDogBack]

38. lol

what a jagoff.

So now we're courting Bush, Rush, Rove, et al?

Strong logic there. I'm taking it you would prefer another electoral gridlock, thus enabling those very assholes in positions of power to steal the election once more?

[Thrill]

31. Repukes are people too

A lot of them are about as pissed as we are with Bush and his BS. And McCain has essentially told them he will have more of the same.

The ones with half a brain are going to either sit out this election or cross over

[Maribelle]

37. Do you have a clue how hard Democrats in Florida worked in 2004 to try to get rid of Bush?

I bet you don't.

[BringBigDogBack]

44. Bingo Bango Brent.

For this very reason, McCain was the ABSOLUTE WORST choice the pubs could have made. This will blow up in their faces.

People in the middle, realize what 100 years in Iraq would do to our country, much less our currency and economical standing.

[BringBigDogBack]

32. you do realize that

there are a considerable amount (a shit-ton) of republicans that are completely jaded, and about as pissed at/by Bush as we are?

You do realize this, yes? IMO, Bush has destroyed the republican party. Every free-thinking moderate will abandon the GOP come November. Just my take.

[Maribelle]

46. Do you realize how many Democrats worked so hard to get rid of Bush in Florida in 2004.

I could tell you some personal stories of the people I worked with and how much they sacrificed during the 2004 democratic campaign. But if I did, I would be afraid they would only be mocked, judging by the foul air obama Supporters are wafting here.

The very Floridians you Obama Supporters are spitting on daily here, are my heroes.

[BringBigDogBack]

52. Spitting on?

That's rich. Perhaps you could show me where I've done that>?

I've never, and will never say anything that would amount to 'spitting on' anyone. I've never even commented on Florida. WTF are you on?

You're right. I didn't want Bush out in '04. I did nothing to work against him. Oh wait. I maxxed out my contributions, called, and campaigned my ass off in '04. So why don't you cool it with your holier than thou bullshit.

k thx bai.

[Maribelle]

57. Look don't take it personally. And don't take the spitting literally.

It's not good for your health.

[BringBigDogBack]

61. Then put away the broad brush.

I thought you were talking about me.

[aquarius dawning]

48. It's also interesting that ~ twice as many people have voted in the Dem primary as the Repub primary

so far...Also worth observing is the fact that Virginia is an open primary. You have to admit, there is a possibility that something fishy is going on.

[cottonseed]

33. Mr and Mrs middle America (R) are corrupt thugs?

Are you talking about real people?

[BringBigDogBack]

40. I know, it's confusing.

With logic like this, who needs Dr. Seuss

[Maribelle]

41. Middle America is a tad inland from where we are talking about tonight.

Did you flunk geography?

[cottonseed]

63. Nice try - I just can't figure out what the hell you were talking about.

And it looks like I'm not alone.

[Iktomiwicasa]

42. Here in rural S. Dakota

The Republican people I know are mostly farmers who are Republicans because of longstanding tradition. Most of them are decent, hardworking and honest people.

[cottonseed]

65. I hear ya.

I grew up in the northern Sacramento valley in California, mostly farmers, small towns of 5k to 7k dotting everywhere. All Republicans, all more liberal then they realize, and all open to a good candidate.

[Island Blue]

34. My next door neighbors are Republicans

(but not the rabid hater type) and they've said that they will vote for Obama in the general election if he's the Democratic nominee but NOT for Hillary. (They'll vote for McCain instead if she's the Democratic nominee.)

[OzarkDem]

36. My relatives and co-workers who are GOP

say they will vote for McCain. Interesting the GOP'ers you are talking to. :rofl:

[Island Blue]

45. What can I say. They like the guy.

They aren't happy with where the country is now, but they don't like the Clintons. (Who they really hate is Bill.) They just can't vote for her. Oh, and maybe you need to find a better brand of Republicans to hang out with. :rofl:

[Blue_In_AK]

39. I'll be surprised.

Independents maybe, Republicans? Not so sure.

[Barack_America]

47. Republicans Against Hillary.

That's the real story here. There's a lot of Republicans who think McCain has this locked up and that this might be their last chance to vote *against* Hillary.

Will they vote for Obama in the GE? I predict that many of them just won't vote.

[loveangelc]

50. my dad is a republican who voted for bush twice and is voting for obama.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

54. My sister is one! I think they're called Obamicans,

or something like that!

My sister Hates McCain, she won't even vote for him in the primary coming up on March 4th! I guess he's not conservative enough

I don't think she agrees with Obama's policies, but she really likes him and, I hate to say this, because I do Not like to spread negativity, but she really dislikes the Other dem.

So, there's one example

[BootinUp]

56. Don't be

they are not thrilled with their choices, so they decided to fuck with us in our primary. There is not much question in my mind where their vote will go in November.

[AX10]

58. That does explain why the Dems numbers are up...

and the GOP's numbers are down so much.

[ctaylors6]

64. I'm in big republican enclave in TX. Some might vote obama in PRIMARY to protest mccain but

will vote republican in GE. They think mccain's not conservative enough. The only people I know who've ever voted republican in the past and are voting FOR obama are those real indep types who vote different parties all the time.

[LisaL]

66. They are probably messing with us.

Since McCain pretty much locked it for the republican nomination, they could cross over and try to mess up a democratic primary. I somehow doubt they would vote for Obama in the general election.
That'd be my bet.