Sen. Clinton - "Just stand there and look pretty!" to John Edwards on Senate Floor

[Divine Discontent]

Kudos to Democrattotheend for remembering reading it, and 1776Forever for starting the search.

I went, of course, to the waybackmachine.org (archive.org) and found the original page -

"Such earnest cultivation pays off. When she wanted prime time—and lots of it—to explain in a lengthy floor speech why she was backing Bush on Iraq, Clinton asked Byrd to give her a chunk of his time. He happily agreed. When the hard-charging and Hollywood-handsome Sen. John Edwards rushed to the floor at the last minute and asked to speak, Democratic leaders had no time left to give him. Clinton couldn’t restrain a triumphant grin at the plight of a clear rival—in fact, one who is seeking the 2004 nomination. She spoke to him in a near shout—loud enough for the galleries to hear. “Just stand there and look pretty, John,” she said. He smiled wanly, and rushed from the chamber."

http://web.archive.org/web/20040707154424/http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3067972/

by Howard Fineman, With Tamara Lipper and T. Trent Gegax

© 2003 Newsweek, Inc.

If it doesn't link for you, go to http://www.waybackmachine.org and enter the link http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3067972/ and click on the July 2004 link. And, yes, since this did occur, I would certainly NOT forget someone saying that to me in the Senate - how RUDE and sexist of her. Jealousy over looks shows incredible childishness, he cannot help it he was a handsome 50 year old at the time. She really shocked me that she would say this loudly, and in the Senate during session, to rub in the fact she got a lot of face time about the war issue.



Isn't that such a PRETTY ensemble she's had put together for her?

[PaDem]

1. GoMama!! err,

something like that.

[TexasObserver]

2. The Devil Wears Prada

[goldcanyonaz]

51. Obama wears Prada?

[Bicoastal]

3. If true...do you think he's POSSIBLY going to forget that? nt

[Occam Bandage]

11. Yeah. Politicos wisecrack all the time.

[SlipperySlope]

4. There is NOTHING condescending about that comment.

I'm sure that Senator Clinton wouldn't have taken any offense if George W Bush or John McCain told her to "Stand there and look pretty". She is a woman of grace and class who would take it for the complement that it is.

[Whisp]

6. you don't understand how insulting that is

to a woman. Lots of history to it. Not too funny at all.

Why Clinton would switch it around and think it cute or amusing, when she bloody well knows how loaded with sexist crap that statement is, is really confounding if she is a feminist.

[jackson_dem]

9. What is condescending is Obama's belittling of Edwards in the SC debate

"When you have a woman, an African American running...and...John"

[joshcryer]

15. Don't forget the "help poor people" "joke" he continues to tell.

Despite its completely insulting nature.

[Occam Bandage]

18. That was good-natured ribbing. So is this.

[Cant trust em]

44. That was a wisecrack, but not really mean

Based on the question that was asked about the cache of minorities running it was a smarmy joke. This Clinton comment is really much more rude, IMO.

[lumberjack_jeff]

19. Of course not. I'm sure that she was flattered to be so trusted by the "iron my shirt" guys too. n/t

[Whisp]

23. I wonder if 'the dumb blonde joke' would be considered as 'cute'

if John had returned with That one.

[Whisp]

25. I wonder if 'the dumb blonde joke' would be considered as 'cute'

if John had returned with That one.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

32. Hey, I have this bridge for sale . . . .

uh huh. yeah.

Look at their overreaction and craven display at Schuster's comment. You think her attack dogs would NOT have been out? Now, about this bridge.

[Cant trust em]

35. Is that a sarcastic comment?

I can imagine if I told a co-worker that she didn't need to do anything but stand there and look pretty that I'd get punched. Yikes.

I don't know if the Clinton comment is true, but if it is, it's not very nice.

[geiger]

5. guess she wont be getting his endorsement.....

[jgraz]

14. God I hope not. That would just be too disappointing.

[saracat]

16. But John will endorse according to the issues and Obama's healthcare plan sucks and Hillary's is

based on his own

[Straight Shooter]

34. There you go, being logical again.

Every time my head starts to hurt in this forum, it's members like you that make me realize it's not all venom and anger.

I wish we could choose our Democratic nominee based on the grace of the candidates' supporters. John Edwards would be winning in a landslide now.

I've seen this phenomenon on other Internet forums, too, not just here.

[rinsd]

7. Yes and I am sure Edwards enjoyed Obama's smackdown during that very 1st debate.

[saracat]

8. Dupe

[saracat]

10. Actually that was pretty condecending of her. It seems that many have a problem with John being

good looking. Maybe because as a nation we are getting uglier? I have got to agree, that was meant as a "jab".

[SlipperySlope]

12. Also reported in November 04, 2002 Newsweek magazine

http://www.newsweek.com/id/66273/page/2

[Little Star]

13. Your link is not working and I would like to see the context

in which she spoke those words. Working link please.

[SlipperySlope]

21. Try this alternative

http://www.newsweek.com/id/66273/page/2

[Capn Sunshine]

17. sexist

very sexist comment in case you hadn't noticed. Not that it hasn't happened to her, and certainly funny.

[bigtree]

20. man, now Fineman's word is gospel

the lengths folks go to put her down.

It's inspiring support for her I believe.

[UALRBSofL]

22. Whether she said it or not

It's true. He is a pretty man. :)

[Divine Discontent]

24. Disbelieve what you want

I'm trusting the reporter, esp that one.

[bigtree]

33. I've never heard Edwards complain about this

[Divine Discontent]

46. oh do you really expect him to complain openly about it? it says more about HER than him

He doesn't have to say anything publicly ever about it, nor should he. It's for others to discuss and defend him about. I would tell her privately to not behave like a school girl trying to embarrass me because she thinks I'm cute, though.

[geiger]

47. also, lost in reactions here is the larger context--how many lives have been lost now

because she was rushing to get time to speak on the floor?

[bigtree]

54. do you really think like this?

this is hilarious

[bigtree]

49. yeah, I kinda do need to take his word over Fineman's

He's very manipulative, posing as an unaffiliated arbiter.

[JVS]

26. It sounds like she hurt his feelings: "He smiled wanly, and rushed from the chamber."

What a horrible nasty thing to do.

[lumberjack_jeff]

39. I'm sure he took it like a man. Oops! Now I've done it!

:spank:

[geiger]

40. how could anyone respond rationally to that; absolutely nasty, why would u ever imagine

something like that coming at you?

[lumberjack_jeff]

42. Oh, I can imagine it. n/t

[rodeodance]

27. chuckle.

[Divine Discontent]

30. yeah, it's funny!

About as funny when the sexists call Hillary, Billary, and ugly bitch. Agreed?

[geiger]

28. I remembered the beginning of her speech, not the delirious shout at the end:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4536184&mesg_id=4536184

[BeyondGeography]

29. Nasty

[geiger]

31. goes to character, as far as I'm concerned.

[TwilightGardener]

36. That's a very smug, emasculating comment. I wish Edwards had told her off.

[2rth2pwr]

37. Perfect. There is nothing wrong with being an attractive male.

The issue only comes up when the male in question seems overly concerned about his appearance.

[geiger]

38. EDWARDS supporters: this is over the top; even I wasn't this cynical

to think she was this condescending and arrogant.

[WillTheGoober]

41. Could have been an innocent joke...

... Even an inside joke.

You don't know.

W.

[geiger]

43. read the Newsweek article; it wasn't like that.

[Divine Discontent]

45. exactly. thank you!

and, by her behavior we should go around and tell people to google image "hillary rodham" and look at the stunningly unattractive photos of her before she got millions to upkeep her face and appearance?

the big beef with me about this is where she did it... very childish.

[bigtree]

52. read the NewSPEAK

gospel :rofl:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

48. Hi, themartyred!

:hi:

[1776Forever]

50. You HRC Supporters - You don't get it do you - She WAS FOR THE WAR! & she talked down to John!

READ THIS:

"Such earnest cultivation pays off. When she wanted prime time—and lots of it—to explain in a lengthy floor speech why she was backing Bush on Iraq!"

She has said that she hadn't understood the Iraq Bill - she thought it was only to allow the U.N. to talk it over. Now we learn that she stood up and talked "in a lengthy floor speech why she was backing Bush on Iraq!". Hello - are you HRC supporters just going to look over this! She knew exactly what she was doing! AND if she didn't she doesn't deserve to be our next President!

AND what she said to John was very sarcastic and was meant to put him in his "place". You honestly can say that her saying "John just stand there and look pretty" is not demeaning to John Edwards!!!!! BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:hurts:

[TexasBushwhacker]

55. The text of her speech

http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html

"So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option."

I still think what she said to John was an insult.

[democrattotheend]

53. Nice! I'm glad you found it

I searched and found someone else mentioning it on a blog, but could not find a source.

Wonder if Edwards remembers this incident as he weighs an endorsement? Not saying it's the be-all-to-end-all, but sounds like she was pretty rude to him that day.