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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:48 PM
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Poll: Obama Up By 11 Points In Wisconsin Primary
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/poll_obama_up_by_11_points_in.php

Poll: Obama Up By 11 Points In Wisconsin Primary
By Eric Kleefeld - February 12, 2008, 1:02PM

A new poll of Wisconsin by Public Policy Polling (D) gives Barack Obama a healthy lead for next week's primary. Obama has 50% support among likely Democratic primary voters, compared to Hillary Clinton's 39%.

The two are in a dead heat among core Democrats, with Obama at 46% to Hillary's 44%. However, Obama's lead is greatly extended by the support of independents and Republicans, who give him a better than 2-1 margin in this open-primary state.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:51 PM
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1. Hillary's camp is at cross message in Wisconsin
I heard her surrogates writing off W earlier on MSNBC saying they expected Obama to do well next week in both W and Hawaii and that it would come down to Ohio, Texas and Penn.

At the same time Hillary said,

I'm gonna compete in Wisconsin. I'm looking forward to competing in Wisconsin. It's kind of like one day at a time, where we're going what we're doing. But, you know, I have a very strong campaign already on the ground in Ohio, in Texas, we're getting, you know, prepared for Wisconsin. We're going to compete everywhere that's the advantage of being able to, you know, have the resources and have the ability to compete everywhere."

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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:51 PM
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2. It is becoming clear that if McCain is their nominee, we definitely need someone...
who can reach out to independents and Republicans, as McCain will reach out to independents and Democrats.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:13 PM
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17. Right you are, And the biggest liberal in congress is just the man to do it. Right?
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Hillary rated 16th BTW.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:16 PM
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19. Just look at the stats. Who draws indies and repukes? The numbers don't lie.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:29 PM
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24. Yes they do.
BO might win over indipendents but Republicans will not support a man voted as the single biggest liberal in the Senate. Use your head man. These guys basically disagree with everything that BO stands for. On top of that, they know that there are supreme court seats up for grabs. I think their cherry picking their opponent and bullshitting us all. I think this because I have watched Democrats do the same damn thing to them. I also think that after the right wing machine gets through with BO, there's going to be a lot of broken hearts here at DU.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:24 PM
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28. Here's a reality check on the election
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 04:27 PM by demo dutch
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/12/opinion/12brooks.html?_r=3&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Basically the new Democratic president will have so much of W's shit to clean up, that they won't be able to accomplish anything else. Probably not far from the truth really!
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:21 PM
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20. duplicate post
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 02:21 PM by aquarius dawning
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:54 PM
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3. Thanks for sharing!
Some have said WI is Hillary's fire wall.

It may be by then, she will not have much of a wall left.

And on March 4th - this thing could be decided.

Obama is riding a wave that only seems to be gathering energy!


peace~:)

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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:54 PM
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4. But, this is a caucus... no, uh, well it's the AA vote... no, uh, well it's not big enough, so...
it doesn't count... or something like that.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:57 PM
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9. too many cheese Kurds? they throw the vote Whey off~!

:rofl:

i need help.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:25 PM
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23. You mean this guy's vote doesn't matter? -->>
You tell him



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southern_dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:02 PM
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12. Excuse
It's an open primary. I'm not taking anything for granted though, act like you're 10 points down and go for every vote.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:24 PM
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21. your posts shows you will do anything to smear Clinton. as you know it is not a causus!
But, this is a caucus... no, uh, well it's the AA vote... no, uh, well it's not big enough, so...
Posted by Dawgs
it doesn't count... or something like that.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:24 PM
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22. your posts shows you will do anything to smear Clinton. as you know it is not a causus!
But, this is a caucus... no, uh, well it's the AA vote... no, uh, well it's not big enough, so...
Posted by Dawgs
it doesn't count... or something like that.


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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:31 PM
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25. Thanks.
:hi:
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:54 PM
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5. duplicate
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 01:55 PM by Dawgs
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:56 PM
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8. dup
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 01:57 PM by jakem
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:54 PM
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6. duplicate
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 01:55 PM by Dawgs
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:55 PM
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7. Yeah Wisconsin!
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 01:56 PM by catgirl
Go get 'em!! Another swing state goes for Obama....
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:01 PM
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10. why do we allow republicans and 'independents' into our primary contests?
This is the DEMOCRATIC party. Voting should be restricted in our PARTY choice to DEMOCRATS.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:03 PM
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13. GOPers are voting Obama because they don't want Hillary.
It's obvious how this is playing out.
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JustinL Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:05 PM
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14. what about the independents?
Are they in on the conspiracy too?
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:07 PM
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15. Oldest trick in the book. Rich white guys in red states aren't going to vote for BO in a primary
get real.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:11 PM
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16. That's the way we roll here....
We don't identify any party affiliation when we register here. The voting is accessible and open, the way a good democracy should be.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:14 PM
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18. The caucus format is a good way to get candidates in line with the ideology of the party's activists
Maybe if WI used that system you'd be happier.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:01 PM
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11. I have seen Democrats register as Republicans so they could vote for a Republican loser
When I see Republicans voting for BO, I can't help but think that this is what they are doing at least to some extent. They're trying to pick their battle. Frankly, I'm just not convinced that BO can win a general election and I'm even less convinced that he will be able to muster enough support to bring about this change that he has everyone believing in. Furthermore, I can't help but remember the last young radical Democrat that went to Washington and tried to change things. His name was John F. Kennedy.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:37 PM
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26. its over
if tonight goes as planned for Obama, the money will dry up for HRC. Superdelegates and party members will abandon her, and pressure her to drop out of the race.

She may stay in it til Ohio, but if she loses 9 primaries in a row, by wide margins of victory, hasn't democracy run its course? We've been witness to the most exciting election of a generation and have two viable candidates. One of them has to lose, unfortunately. I think that the pressure of the party and the weight of the world will come crashing down on Hillary if she loses all three today, and then Wisconsin.

For the sake of the party we need to stop attacking each other and have time to heal and unite against our foe.

His name is John McCain, and he looked like roadkill last summer, only to find himself top dog. We need not give this Phoenix a second chance to resurrect.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:19 PM
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27. It isn't over until it's over and it is not over tonight for either candidate.
nice try though.
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