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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:38 PM
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Thank you, Maine voters. Clinton going DOWN
The DLC and the Clintons and the DINOs are being sent a clear message by the American public. Your time in power is over. America will not stand for complicit Democrats who enable Republicans to commit war crimes any longer. Obama may not be a liberal, but at least he is not part of the DLC.

It's a start. Hopefully in 8 years, after the Obama presidency, someone like Kucinich will finally be given a chance. Nothing short of the complete rejection of all conservative DLC Democrats will save the country. It's time to cut that cancer out of the party.

The revolution has begun.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:39 PM
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1. ugh. just ugh.
I hate simplistic crap.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:45 PM
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8. oh cali. After I just defended you in another thread
I like simplistic crap sometimes! Go lynnyrd!
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:45 PM
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11. Well, we've got to start somewhere...
moving the Party operatives closer to where the base is. I think America in general is a whole lot more progressive than the Democratic leadership realizes. If Obama can win big in November, he might just get enough House & Senate members in on his coattails to actually make real change possible.

Who wouldn't like a fairer, more equitable society? Granted the damage done by 28 years of Reagan/Bush/ClintonDLC/Bush2 won't be undone overnight, but we can get America turned in the right direction. Then who knows? Perhaps we'll be ready for a Dennis Kucinich or another true progressive.
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:08 PM
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40. Another message from a right winger…

I just received yet another cryptic message by carrier pigeon from Stella, that right winger from Texas! ---


"Lesson fer Libruls Number 3:

Dang! Dang, dang, dang! And now MORE dang! It’s me again. Awright Smashmouth. This here is Stella the TEXAN again from big ole TEXAS, stupid. I’m in the saddle an’ it’s time ta skedaddle BAREBACK, buster! FerGIT about ‘Bama winnin’ all them contests. Maine? Maine’s practically Canada! Only goes ta show O’Bamer’s a Frenchman! Remember that Texas is Hillry’s firewall. Ever since we stole Texas fair an’ square from Mexico the Mexicans been wantin’ in on the Giant state! Ain’t no way Bama gonna win Texas with the Latino vote an’ all. An’ o’ course Ohio. Bama can't win Ohio. You libruls were good at it in yer time but it just goes ta figure that when you came ta cash in yer chips, Ohio and Texas would be yer bankers… An’ of course, speakin’ o’ money, Hillry raked in seven million bucks! Seven million! Loanin’ money ta the campaign, not payin’ staffers? A momentary inexactitude, that’s all! So ferGIT about those Hillry money woes! How’s Bamer gonna raise money from all them little Lilliputian DOUGH-nators! Thirty-two million bucks? That was a FLUKE! Ain’t never gonna happen again! So fergit the whole damn thirty-two million thing! He only won the Maine caucus with his li’l hippie squad o’ grass roots organizers! Ta all you ‘Bamaniks, grassroots organizin’ don’t mean NUTHIN’! Grass? Isn’t that what they call marijuana? Nuf said. Ahm gonna lay it on the line again fer all you dumb libruls and THIS time I MEAN BIZNESS. First things first. Nominate Hillry. SHE’S THE ONE YOU NEED. Cuz the GOP needs someone with a rubber band smile and no ideas ‘cept what she got from ‘Bama and her piddling little put-sosha-security-in-a-lockbox type promises to run against so we can take back the REAL hill, CAPITOL Hill, after you LIBRULS stole it. We’re stealin’ it BACK fair an square, donkey face. And MIGHT I ADD she’ll be puttin’ up Carville as the new DNC head. Say goodbye ta the 50 state strategy, cuz you Dermacrits belong confined ta a few coastal states or what I call BANTUSTANS. Nuthin’ like a good quarantine to isolate a Dermacrit outbreak. And never mind about Hillry’s staff in a panic over Maine and Louisiana! Why you think they call it “Lose-iana”? An’ stop worryin’ about Hillry firin’ her campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle, long-time leader of Hillaryland, the Ceasar-ess of Friends Of Hillary! You jus’ shutcher face and don’t think about it. Patti wasn’t fired. She was DOWNSIZED! So stop tremblin’ about the whole mess. Things are FINE in Hillaryland! Just FINE! Don’t get me wrong. I LOVE you libruls! I love you ta pieces! Just like Ann Coulter’s votin’ fer Hillry! Now you march ta the votin’ booth RIGHT this minute and vote fer WONDER WOMAN. She can’t lose. Pay no attention to Whitewater, Madison Guaranty, Susan McDougal, Rose Law Firm, Filegate, Robert Fiske, Kenneth Starr, the cattle futures scandal, photos of Hillry smoochin’ it up with Yasser Arafat’s wife, Clinton’s third term, travelgate, Vincent Foster’s suicide, Bill gettin’ impeached, skirt chasin’ all over the White House, Monica’s dress, Monicagate 24/7/365 and all the rest of it! Ever hear the expression “Don’t fire till you see the whites of her eyes” --- I mean the whites of THEIR eyes, pumpkin breath? Well fergit it. We Republicans would NEVER go dirty on Hillry! What, you think we’re just waitin’ till she gets the nomination? We LOVE Hillry! We can’t WAIT fer her ta get the Dem nomination! We just love her ta pieces! THAT’S why Rupert Murdoch loves her so much! All his hostin’ her and donatin’, an’ all? You think he’s got somethin’ up his sleave? Course not! He just loves her out of the goodness of his blushing little heart! I say the goodness of his blushing little heart!! Pay no attention ta all them LEFTISTS tellin’ yuz that Hillry’s road kill in the fall. Now I been hearin’ yuz callin’ Hillry “Cruella deHill.” Now donchoo TALK that way! Hillry’s the nicest candidate there ever wuz! Race card? Fergit it! Trust a Texan! She never pulled no race card! Cuz McCain’s a geezer an we need somebody really DESPICABLE on the Dermacrit side to bring out all us Death’s Head Republicans ta the polls ta vote! Bama’s a nobody but we got a dossier on Hillry the size o’ Fort Knox, motor mouth. Ya know why yer a motor mouth? Cuz you won’t shut up! But the Repubs? We’re nice, polite an’ quiet! You think we’re gonna be runnin’ anti-Hillry ads day an’ night? NEVER! We’re too NICE ta use that big dossier we got on Hillry! We would never USE it because --- WE LOVE HILLRY. Listen ta Ann Coulter. No time ta think! March ta the slaughterhouse RIGHT THIS MINUTE and nominate Hillry! Because: We love Hillry. You better love her too. Trust me. Trust Stella the Texan. With Hillry you can’t lose. So vote fer Hillry."

I still haven't figured out what to send back by carrier pigeon....
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:09 PM
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41. Dorp Dead?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:41 PM
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2. There's barely
a dime's worth of difference between Clinton and Obama on policy.

Your "revolution" seems rather lame.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:44 PM
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7. there's a difference.
whatever you may think of Obama, he got them out and interested.

Clinton has always had her interests, and it's not us pleebs.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:45 PM
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9. did you read where I said "on policy"?
Yes, there are differences between them - but policy-wise, they're very very close.

To call this a revolution is just stupid.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:55 PM
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23. not that close, the peace lovin' mama has proven otherwise.
she will protect her one child from a 'word' more so than thousands others from american bombs.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:56 PM
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24. lol
ok, enjoy your "revolution". :eyes:
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:00 PM
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25. why do you hate stupid pimp words more than pink mists of children
blown away in wars partly supported by a Clinton?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:22 PM
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32. You mean, the war Obama keeps voting to fund?
That little war?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:29 PM
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33. the one Hillary was too stupid to condone.
that one.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:30 PM
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34. someone gave me a heart?
how can I tell who?
it's silly, but meaningful, nonetheless. ;)
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:31 PM
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35. Self-delete...
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 09:32 PM by Hobarticus
Dupe, for some reason.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:33 PM
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37. so you were a Kucinich supporter too?
yay!
but we have to take what we can get.
we have to oblige what is served us.

I prefer Kooch's ideas,
I abhor Clinton's
I could come to accept Obama's.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:40 PM
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38. Nope....former Edwards delegate
I just don't see a difference between the two. She's blatantly political; Obama's sneakily political while claiming the high ground. At least with HRC, I know what I'm getting. Just a matter of personal preference.

Peace. Kooch would've made it happen.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:31 PM
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36. Yeah...the one he's too chickenshit to not fund.
Yep, that one. That's what I thought.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:08 PM
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28. Sorry theres a huge difference
and its all in His Technology platform. Hillary doesn't come close to it and she never will she isn't interested in an informed constituency. She prefers closed doors and backroom deals.

Witness her refusal to divulge her tax returns and the donations to the clinton library.

Sorry Monkey I like you and all but the difference between them when it comes to open government is staggering. Not to mention very telling.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:19 PM
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30. Her tax returns
are not a public policy. Nor has she refused to divulge them. She said she will if she's the nominee, as is standard.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:43 PM
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3. I Wouldn't Get too Sure about That
it looks really good, but I do not expect Clinton to go down just like that. She has a lot of money riding on her.... expect worse. I wish I were wrong, but I feel like this primary is gonna get uglier.
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:47 PM
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14. The long knives are coming out ...
the Clintons are used to losing, and I don't think it will be a pleasant experience for anyone involved if and when this happens.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:52 PM
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22. I Think It Will Back Fire Big Time If It Does
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:43 PM
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4. The revolution has begun?
what are you talking about?

If anything, McCain wins in November.


More of the same.

Joe Liebermann will be VP.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:35 PM
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43. After watching my caucus today, I think McCain has a huge mountain to climb
And it doesn't really matter what person wins the nomination on the Democratic side. People were lined up for hours in Maine to declare themselves as Democrats so that they could participate in the caucus. It was an amazing sight. Hopefully the interest level will be maintained through November.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:43 PM
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5. There will be no revolution.

People generally dislike sudden change.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:44 PM
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6. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen sometimes, though.
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:45 PM
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10. classless, and I am an Obama supporter
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:45 PM
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12. Let's stay above the petty attacks and celebrate without bashing.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:47 PM
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13. Seriously -- It's too early for this stuff.
Don't get overconfident. We have a long fight ahead of us.
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:47 PM
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15. just imagine a debate with McCain on Foreign policy after O's been swiftboated on the wars
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enfield collector Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:47 PM
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46. mccain has a lot of skeletons in his own closet, google "keating 5"
and see what I'm talking about. the there are all the Vietnam vets that oppose him, he's not going to get an easy ride. National polls show Obama beating mccain, they show Clinton losing to mccain.
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:45 AM
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48. 8 months ago, the polls showed Hillary winning- Polls this far out ,mean nothing
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 12:46 AM by adapa
Are you saying the democratic attack dog is as wicked as the republican's? refresh my memeory, Bush v. Kerry, there was the swiftboat ad's and the windsurfing ads.

On the other side- humm, well, there were a couple of very good Moveon ad's that didn't get much air time,
that's all I got.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:47 PM
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16. No. No. No. Don't do this...
Cheer the candidate...don't piss on the head of the opponent. Please?
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:47 PM
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17. QUIT THAT UGLY GLOATING! You're doing us a disservice. nt
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:48 PM
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18. Sorry, not helpful, not recommended.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:49 PM
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19. please dont..
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:50 PM
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20. Hope! Change! A "new tone"!
:silly:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:50 PM
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21. that skydiver commercial where the chute doesn't open is very appropriate
That's her campaign, in free fall with no reserve chute.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:03 PM
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27. parachute for sale, never opened, small stain. ;)
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:09 PM
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29. hahaha!!
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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:03 PM
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26. Either way we end up
with a turd nominee.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:21 PM
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31. So much for "hope" and "change" and "a new tone"...
GDP's starting to resemble a high school locker room, with all the trash talk.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:38 PM
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45. That is exactly what is has boiled down to.
Issues, ideas, ideologies be damned. Rah rah rah!
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:49 PM
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39. I'm sure BO will take care of all of those excesses
of the '60's and '70's...those damn peacemongers, ecologists, and pot smokers. Yes, BO is quite the leftie of the Democratic party.

You even omit he's not a liberal...then what the f*ck is he? A sloganeer? You are fans of some kind of cult...a cult of what, I don't know???

Have you been mass delusioned somehow??? Did you lose your ability to critically think?

Revolution? WTF? A revolution of watered down compromise with Corporations where the peons get an annual raise of 1% vs. a cut of 10%?

A revolution of mediocrity? A revolution of sheep? BAAAAAAAAAAAA?

You are in for one big heartbreak.

This is embarrassing.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:32 PM
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42. Rec !


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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:37 PM
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44. I guess Maine had a message for her...
"You can't get there from here."
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:59 PM
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47. I can march in this parade.
I'm not much of an Obama supporter, but can bring myself to vote for him in the GE.

However, I will lead the parade of torches and pitchforks to purge our Party of Republican Plants (DLC)!


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone


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