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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:07 PM
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Hillary's campaign manager steps down?
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 08:14 PM by sfam
This was just on Fox News. Wow...not sure what this does for her at this point...But Patti Solis Doyle will apparently stay on as a senior advisor.

EDIT: I changed this from "resigns" to "steps down". Not sure I see the difference here, as the implication is the same. She's being demoted due to something bad occurring - usually this a perceived performance issue.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:09 PM
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1. I believe "resigns" should be put in quotation marks
to denote the more correct reality of the situation.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:10 PM
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2. Maggie Williams is the new Campaign manager...
my apologies if this is old news. Here's a link if its not...

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/02/10/politics/fromtheroad/entry3813801.shtml
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:10 PM
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3. No one resigned.
They swapped positions.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:15 PM
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4. I changed it to "Steps Down" - happy?
this still isn't much better in terms of perception. "Changing places" isn't really accurate as this implies its a minor change. Dropping a campaign manager down is not a minor thing.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:17 PM
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5. "stepped down" is to "quits" what "passed away" is to 'died"
just a kinder, gnetler way of saying the same thing. Hillary's campaign for whatever reason decided that someone else should take command.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:20 PM
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6. CBS' headline: Clinton Campaign Manager Steps Down...
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 08:20 PM by sfam
This is a pretty normal usage of the term. You usually use this term when someone is canned by the organization keeps them on the payroll.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/02/10/politics/fromtheroad/entry3813801.shtml
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:23 PM
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8. ABC News: "Clinton Campaign Manager Calls it Quits"
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:24 PM
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9. Read the first sentence of the link you provided...
"Patti Solis Doyle announced that she is STEPPING DOWN as the campaign manager for the presidential campaign of Sen. Hilary Clinton, D-N.Y."
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:31 PM
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10. it's a semantic argument
calling it quits = quitting = stepping down

Unlike gettting fired, all of the above infer that the position is being left by choice not by force; it is a decision made by the person quitting (or sgtepping down)and not by others. "Stepping down" is a softer way of puttinthg it; a nice idiom for the more direct equivalent "quitting".

That is how I see it.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:21 PM
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7. And what of Mark Penn?
Well, he probably recommended a campaign shake-up, strategically below him --after all, he's too, uh, important and useful. Oh, and expensive. :grr:
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