DKos says Hillary is winning "conservative" working class whites in "dying mill towns"

[Leopolds Ghost]

Anyone see the irony here? I've heard of cultural warfare from the right
driving working class voters into voting against their own interests, but
Clinton stands for cultural warfare from the left -- her economic platform
is solidly anti-working class and pro-upper middle class, structured
around "retraining" working class white voters to compete in a "global
marketplace", sacrificing the mill towns in the first place.

Is it purely her husbands hostile attitude to poor (read: black) urbanites
that working class whites appreciate, i.e. pitting the white working class
against the poor to make them feel like they are part of the "rising and
constantly striving middle class" that Clinton and other Harvard liberals
celebrate as the sole receptacle of American values? It seems to me these
so-called "Harvard liberals" have moved so far to the right that after SC,
they have adopted the Reagan formula from the 1970s in toto, right down to
dividing the working class from the poor by promoting medicine of economic
restructuring sweetened with cultural issues to promote hostility towards
"traditional liberal constituencies" (poor folks, greens and deans) and
make people feel good about themselves.

[rug]

1. Working class = racists = drivel

[Leopolds Ghost]

8. Obama voters (yuppies and buppies) are discounting the working class.

Clinton voters are exploiting the uninformed (who are discounting
Obama not so much because he is black but because he is not representing
himself as a populist -- look how he has squandered the opportunity
to turn Katrina into a big message) but the Clintons are actively
pretending to be pro-working class when in fact they are spouting
the doctrine of Reaganism -- a suicidal "working class voters are
destined to become middle class if they repudiate the politics of
focusing on the less fortunate and embrace the politics of making
themselves more fortunate" meme.

[ORDagnabbit]

2. grrrrr...

[Tarc]

3. Uh-oh, here's comes the "DAILYKOS IS A HILLARY SHILL SITE" now

[liberalnurse]

4. Not at this time.

They are Obamarites.

[OHdem10]

5. There some on this site who see a racist behind every tree.

The very idea of calling white working class racist or having
racial motives for supporting HRC.

These groups have always supported HRC. This is the base of
our party.

The Limo Liberals look down on them and drove them to the
Republican Party. Talk to Mudcat Saunders

[Leopolds Ghost]

7. My OP has nothing to do with racism. If you want to know what I believe:

And unfortunately, neither Hillaryites nor Obama "base" student voters
will accept this because they have bought into the "working class whites
are obsolete and ignorant" meme, for instance, here's another yuppie
on DKos:

...i'm in tidewater and my impression is VA will go for obama no problem. the think about VA is that it isn't one of these old style, old coalition democrat states. we don't have tons of working class whites voting for democrats here. virginia, instead, presaged obama's coalition of middle-class educated whites and blacks. and so i think that heavily favors obama.

Here's a Daily Kos poster with whom I actually agree.

Here's what's really going on with Clinton that anti-working class, post-New Deal student Obamaites refuse to recognize:

In Texas, an Obama vote is cast Twice...

First, in the Primary, and anyone registered to vote by Feb 4th in any party can vote because There is No Party ID.... you simply walk up to the poll and declare which ballot you'll take.  When you register you don't declare a party... so R's and I's can vote in this open primary.  Though you have to be registered before hand.</p>

Second, only those who voted earlier can vote again by participating in the Caucus. Hillary's support tends to be less informed Name Rec and/or Female Solidarity Vote... the demographics prove that some portion of her vote is simply voting on Incumbent and/or name rec, especially among older Latinos who may have limited accessibility to English Language news due to language barriers. These same Hillary voters who help her win California Primaries may forgo a Caucus the same night...

Obama's vote however will engage in both processes because of superior Grassroots strength. It's just an inherent advantage to Obama voters who trend more informed and organized than Hillary's.

Obama carried Idaho, Minnesota, Kansas and N. Dakota caucus by huge 2-1 margins because of his demo trends, and Hillary won close Primaries because of the ease of a Primary...

Now combine that with the duel process where you vote early then have to spend and hour or two that night caucusing and you have an intensive commitment factory, and intensity gap that Obama can overcome.

Texans for Obama know this and our supporters will be informed and organized to be sure to Vote Early and then come back to vote Often.

[TexasObserver]

6. she's winning the elderly and the ignorant

That's factual, not pejorative.

[Auntie Bush]

10. And Obama is winning the young who are too busy working for big dollars and going to college

who have other things and interests on their minds besides politics. Clinton voters are more elderly and interested and follow politics...meaning they are more informed as to the issues...rather than follow the leader.

[Leopolds Ghost]

9. It's interesting to see that social justice and (winning or ending) class warfare are not even in DU

language anymore.

If people can't understand what I am getting at because they are too
blinded by cultural differences to see that neither candidate is
focusing on the needs of the working class or the working poor, and
the candidate picking up the most working class votes is coasting on
a wave of trickle-down Reaganism left over from the 1990's, well
that's just sad.