Do we get it here? The Clintons run on outrage.

[Big Blue Marble]

They thrive on it. They paint themselves as victims; then use the outrage to get attention and sympathy.

They will use it time and again. They play the media as a violin to hyperbolic levels.

The intent is bring sympathy, get attention, and shut out Obama's message.

I am sick of it.

The tears in NH. Bill screaming at reporters that Hillary's supporters were going to get a raw deal in NV.

The "rebuffed offer of a handshake at the state of the union."

And now the outrage about Chelsea. Schuester was wrong to say such a gross thing. But watch them blow it
up to a fever pitch. To bad it is Friday. The View won't be on until Monday. I bet that will be the first topic
for the ladies.

This is how they want to win the presidency playing the victim card and seething with faux outrage. It seems to work
for them every time.

I, for one, am very, very tired of the tactic.

[HeraldSquare212]

1. And they're going to use it to run away from the debates they challenged Obama to accept.

I guess they thought they'd have a good issue to ride for a few days; instead, they needed to find an excuse to back out.

[Big Blue Marble]

4. Is Hillary running from the debates she wanted?

I had not heard that.

[City Lights]

5. One of them is/was scheduled on MSNBC. That one is in question now. eom

[HeraldSquare212]

9. The other is on NBC; it's not clear if Wolfson's ban included NBC or not. nt

[ruggerson]

38. She should not debate if Russert is one of the moderators

no way, no how.

[TexasObserver]

2. Clintons are brats who cry, whimper and have tantrums if they don't get attention!

Waaaaaahhhhhhhh! They're always the victims!!

As with brats, it gets old.

[hedgehog]

3. They used it in 1992 - somehow they were the victims when people

started talking about Bill's infidelities. They are using it now, telling Democrats we need to support them because the Republicans are so mean to them.

[cooolandrew]

70. .....

[Seeker30]

6. Who was crying about Bill's so called racist remark?

Talk about playing victim.

[Big Blue Marble]

10. So called?

It was the AA community that rose in protest over the remarks that Bill and their minions were making.

That is why they have dramatically turned from the Clintons. The relationship between the Clintons
and the black community will never be the same.

[Seeker30]

23. Yes, so called

There was nothing racist about it yet it turned into another Bill witchhunt.

[Big Blue Marble]

49. If that is what you want to believe nobody will stop you.

The AA community thinks differently.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Ha

If anybody implied my mom , daughter, sister, or wife was a prostitute they would be looking for a reconstructive surgeon and I would be looking for a bondsman...

[yardwork]

8. It's called politics. The Clintons learned it in the school of hard knocks.

Winning is a good thing, remember? We want the Democrats to win. The msm is not exactly a level playing field. If Hillary Clinton knows how to manipulate the right-wing press, more power to her.

[Big Blue Marble]

17. This is called Clinton Politics.

It is a brand. I have followed politics for over 40 years. They are the ones who use this tactic
over and over like nobody else.

There is more than one way to win. I hate their hyperbolic oh pity me we are so picked on we are
so angry approach.

If she is elected, this is what we will have for four years.

[yardwork]

If she is elected, we'll have the third Democratic presidency in 27 years.

Short of murdering somebody, I really don't care how she does it. I feel the same about Obama. I want a Democrat in the White House. What you call "crying" other people call "not taking shit from the media."

[BeyondGeography]

11. Yes, they're exhausting...a flippin' non-stop soap opera

A fine and accurate rant.

K&R

[VolcanoJen]

12. Thank you.

Cross the Clintons, lose your job. Jesus, it was enough that he apologized and will apologize again tonight. But a suspension?!?

And before making that admittedly offensive and idiotic flippant comment, Schuster was one of the good guys. I'll miss watching him take that insufferable jackass Joe Scarborough to the woodshed every morning... anyone who is a Democrat will miss David Schuster, trust me on that one.

[Cameron27]

13. I wonder what you'd do

if your daughter or son was accused of being pimped by you. I wonder what tactics you'd use.

[formernaderite]

27. schuster was trying to be "hip" in using pimped

it was out of context and the wrong word...

what would the clintons say? let's move on...there's nothing here...it's old news

[yardwork]

28. That's exactly the attitude that got Kerry annihilated in 2004.

[phantom power]

33. hear, hear!

If Obama wins the nomination, I hope everybody pays close attention to what the GOP campaign machine does to him. Because they'll do to him exactly what they've been doing to the Clintons for the last 15 years. We'll be hearing the phrase "Obama fatigue" by no later than October.

It won't be pretty, and ignoring them won't work. Our experience in 2000 and 2004 should have taught us at least that much. I hope Obama's campaign has a better plan than that.

[yardwork]

35. I think that Obama's campaign does have a better plan.

I think that Obama and Hillary are very similar politicians. I think that they're both ruthless, hard-nosed, take-no-prisoners fighters. That's why one of this is going to win in November. And I'll be cheering whichever one it is.

[phantom power]

62. Could be. It makes me wonder how "hard-nosed" meshes with "reach across the isle."

One of the things I liked about Edwards was that he based his campaign on the idea that we have to "fight" these people. He's right. "Reaching across the isle" means nothing to the GOP, or the plutocrats behind them.

[yardwork]

66. Obama shows little evidence of "reaching across" anything.

His rhetoric doesn't match his behavior. That's why I slightly prefer Hillary. On the other hand, if Obama gets elected I'll be a very happy person.

[durrrty libby]

14. And if Shuster had made the pimp comment about Mrs Obama

he would have been called a racist and ridden on a rail out of town.

Stop the bullshit hypocrisy

[fenriswolf]

15. hay any press is good press

what better way then outrageous comments and stunts?

[Apollo11]

16. Your post is outrageous! And I'm calling you on it!

:mad:

[Big Blue Marble]

20. Go for it! What are you going to do?

The truth hurts sometimes.

[Apollo11]

32. I sent the link to the Clinton Campaign HQ

I bet they have lawyers preparing a rebuttal right now! ;-)

[Big Blue Marble]

42. Your threats are duly noted.

And your intimidations as well

[Apollo11]

67. Don't forget to note my winky face!

;-)

[Coexist]

40. he's not going to debate on your thread

and his minions are asking Principal Skinner to suspend your account.

:hide:

[ShortnFiery]

18. It's getting real old. The funny thing is, Schuster more often made negative EVALS about Obama.

Go Figure. :crazy:

I think Schuster was elevated fast but, in essence, IMNSHO, he's a damn good investigative reporter when he stays on script.

But this FALSE OUTRAGE on The Clintons and their supporters part is getting *obscene.*

They think that it will play like it did in the 1990s when "ALL OF US" (myself included) would run to their defense.

What The Clintons and their Mighty SMARMY DLC Campaign machine are slow to realize is that MORE AND MORE Democrats are growing *annoyed* of this tired old "I'm a victim" tactic.

I hope it figuratively blows-up in The Clintons faces by them losing votes from old-time democrats in the future.

[thoughtcrime1984]

47. Time for a cry, perhaps?

:cry:

[Skip Intro]

19. I do not see how you don't choke on your own hypocrisy.

Obama and his camp and many supporters here have whined from the beginning about every other utterance from Hillary or Bill. Been going on for months.

What's the problem, the woman doesn't know her place, sticking up for herself and her family and all?

you guys kill me

[hfojvt]

21. interesting analysis

but you seem kinda outraged by their tactics.

Are you running for the greatest page or something?

Do you have a pretty daughter or a famous husband you can use to promote this thread?

[Big Blue Marble]

48. Actually, more exhausted than outraged

I just do want this kind of politics going forward.

The verb was very inappropriate. And so is their response.

She will pull out of the debates?

[bunnies]

22. Yet they call Obama supporters "brainwashed"

Meanwhile... more plans for the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton "One-World Government"! Yay CFR!!!!

[incapsulated]

24. "playing the victim card and seething with faux outrage"

Yes because having your daughter referred to as if she were a whore on national television is such a big deal over nothing.

The hypocrisy of this coming from the biggest crybabies I've ever seen is really nauseating.

[Big Blue Marble]

29. Just watch how they will use the story to drive the new cycle.

Hardly anybody heard the comment. It was on MSNBC. Now everybody will hear it.

How dumb do you think we are. If they were wanting to protect Chelsea, they would have
quietly complained to NBC and let it go.

They are the ones driving this story. Do you get it? They are the ones making sure that
everyone in American will hear about this.


They are using the story about their daughter to get sympathy one day before an election.

GET IT??????

[incapsulated]

31. You know what I "get"?

You are so full of shit and blind with hate you don't see how absurd you sound.

[Big Blue Marble]

54. Your opinion speaks so well of you.

Look in the mirror for why?

[HeraldSquare212]

34. And try to bury the fact that Obama leads by 20 in Virginia. nt

[yardwork]

36. Good for the Clintons! It's about time some Democrats started playing the media

instead of vice-versa.

Save the polite talk for the church supper. This is politics.

[johnnydrama]

30. wait

so that old show on MTV "Pimp my ride" was actually a show about prostitution in a car?

[machiado]

53. bingo

Now your gettin' it

[pdxmom]

25. This is exactly what is meant by "Clinton fatigue" and I don't want to

through another eight years of this.

[Independent-Voter]

63. If HRC gets elected (she won't - but let's pretend)..

She'll be one term and out. People are sick of the fake outrage about every single thing. America deserves a break from that kind of shit.

[lwcon]

26. That's the way it is with...

... racists who will say anything and do nothing, operate massive, soulless political machines, and are really in cahoots with the Republicans.

:sarcasm:

___

The Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy, now at my new home: Correntewire.com

[Justpat]

37. What I get is that you are most likely a right winger posing as a Dem.

There is not a Dem with any brains who believe right wing talking points
and they certainly do not bring them here and use them in place of intelligent discussion.

[yardwork]

39. Old Broad, I like your style.

From another old broad.

[Big Blue Marble]

51. And you are totally wrong.

A former Clinton supporter, voted for him twice with high expectations, who has Clinton fatigue.
If you would take the time to notice I have been here for a long, long time and I am a solid
supporter of democratic positions.



I am just watching the show or should I say the reruns.

[joeybee12]

41. And I am very tired of bullshit posts like this...

...you people cannot see straight anymore....no wonder the cult status is getting moer airplay.

[Big Blue Marble]

57. Man, this sure hit a nerve with you guys!!

Wow, just wow.

[joeybee12]

61. Always try and turn something into a bash against the Clintons...

...you really have lost the ability to reason, ahven't you? What if someone said that about Michelle Obama...you people would be livid. Anything against the Clintons is okay in your book. Absolutely pathetic. Apparently having people agreeing that Shuster's comment was in bad taste just set off your tiny little buttons because somehow it's alwyas the Clinton's fault.

[Big Blue Marble]

65. My reasoning powers are at their best.

Did you get the part of my post that said I think the comment by Schuester was gross.
I do not think anything about the Clintons is OK.

There is a pattern to how the Clinton's react to this kind of stuff.

I can see it; can you?

[thoughtcrime1984]

43. FEAR!!! ANGER!!! Change?

I'm Hillary Rodham Clinton, and I approve this message.

[NoBorders]

44. damn straight! Election by whining.

[Dogmudgeon]

45. There is only one whiner here. Try the mirror.

--p!

[LittleClarkie]

46. Kind of like Republicans

Perpetual victimhood coupled with attacks. Passive aggressive.

[Tom Rinaldo]

52. Like no other candidate camp has done the same this election cycle

If the use of the work "fairytale" about a voting record on Iraq is a slur at black aspirations for social justice, saying that someone is pimping their daughter is calling her a whore and them pimps of the worst kind imaginable.

Chelsea and her parents deserved that no more than John Kerry and his daughters would have deserved being called pimps and whores on national television in 2004, for the campaign work they did for their father.

[_Wayne_]

50. They also run on 8 years of peace and prosperity. But YOUR outrage makes you forget.

[EFerrari]

55. Unless you were poor or gay or in countries like East Timor.

How soon you forget.

[Big Blue Marble]

58. I never forget both the good and the bad of those Clinton years. n/t

[Avalux]

56. They use GOP/Rove tactics.

David Shuster did not say anything derogatory about Chelsea. He criticized her parents (in a not very nice way) but it still doesn't demand the outrage.

[Independent-Voter]

59. And how. It's time for something else.

America is tired of this kind of shit from both sides of the aisles. It's time to send the Clintons off into the sunset with some nice parting gifts.

[AtomicKitten]

60. I agree that the Clintons tend to ride the wave of faux outrage ....

which is ironic since they often suggest Obama lacks substance. I think the Clintons are just beginning to realize they can't play the same Washington insider games and expect a different result.

[K Gardner]

64. It has been a nonstop litany of the most tired machinations in politics. You are not

alone in being sick to freakin death of it, and of them.

[Perry Logan]

68. Isn't it obvious that Clintophobes will say any damned thing that comes into their heads?

[cooolandrew]

69. Clintons are running positive and uplfitng campaign fired up ..and ready...to go home.