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hertopos Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 04:53 PM
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As a mother, I have a very different standard for my daughter
I real world, I take a lot of sexist comment.
In some cases, a man talking to may not realize he is making sexist comments. I usually talk back and correct them on the spot with smile.

Well, if someone, man or woman, made sexist statement against my daughter, this is completely different story.

If it were in my face, I may lose completely.
If it were in front of my husband, he may punch the guy though he is the most non-violent person.

Chelsea is what Hillary and Bill Cherish more than anything. It is parent's thing. They sent Chelsea to the best school possible, which was private, though this decision got a bad press. Then, I thought they made a wrong decision. Now, I can understand how they feel because I have my own daughter.

Chelsea is their sanctuary. Hillary and Bill went through uncountably many humiliations. Do they deserve that much. I actually don't think so. Many politicians prior to them were never treated that badly. Think about JFK, RFK and even Ted.

I repeat. Chelsea is their sanctuary. I do believe most of Obama supporters share same sentiment with me. In that sense, I say that most of Obama supporters do not deserve 'Cult meme'. However, if you start throwing mud at their sanctuary, now you deserve this silly 'cult meme'.

Look, Chelsea is a well-balanced, intelligent, but down to earth, human being. Compared to Bill's almost immature way of supporting Hillary, Chelsea shines. I am very happy she decided to help her mom. At the same time, Chelsea is not Bill.

Please give me a break.

Hertopos
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 04:56 PM
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1. Great post...thanks...during their White House years
the Clintons were very protective of Chelsea since she was growing up in what could hardly be considered a normal environment, and they did a good job. I think the Obama supporters need to get a grip and stop turning this into another way to bash Hilary over her IWR vote and tax returns...focus on the issue people, or you will be called cults or exhibiting cult-like behavior.
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hertopos Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:06 PM
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4. Honestly, being a parent gave me a different view into life
You know what, if Hillary want to use just about everything for her gain, she could have used Chelsa much much earlier.

Gore's daughters helped his dad a lot. Can you believe if anyone said something similar to Gore's kids...

I always feel really sorry for Bush twins. Well, as a parents, I must admit Bush and his wife did not do a great job. They even could not protect them from the press...

I am a very staunch Hillary supporter; however, I believe that Hillary can have a life after this even if she loses. ( I hope not.)
Because she never sacrificed her family, which is just so amazing.

Hertopos
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:13 PM
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9. The irony in all this is the "family values" voters who always went
on about Repukes being for families when its the kids of the Dems who turn out so much better.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:00 PM
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2. Great post. 'Chelsea is their sanctuary.'
That says it all. :)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:03 PM
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3. Yep. Don't pick on my child or you will see a mother's wrath.
I'm just sayin'....:loveya: There's no love like the love a parent has for their children. They are off limits.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:06 PM
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5. Yep, Bill was always for sticking up for women...
especially if it was an intern 20 years his junior that he was fucking around with. Great role model, that Bill.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:08 PM
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7. So that makes it ok to call his daughter a prostitute?
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:23 PM
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13. when you're as polarizing as the Clintons, it's naive as hell
to think that folks are going to be throwing barbs. Is is nice? Nope, but Chelsea's going to be catching some heat for stumping for her whore-mongering dad and the wife who won't leave him because it would hurt her politically. It's a sick, sick world those two live in.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:26 PM
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18. This isn't a garden party. This is politics.
The Clintons may be a lot of things, but naive isn't one of them.

Personally, I'm glad to see them fight back.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:28 PM
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20. You may be in the wrong forum
"Whore-mongering"?

Here's a link to where that type of anti-Clinton rhetoric is common. You may find it better suited to your political tastes.

--p!
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:44 PM
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26. OK - that was over the top.
but point being, there's no denying the fact that Bill has fucked around on Hillary multiple times, HRC's still with him for at least political reasons (yes, relationships are funny like that sometimes), and he's in no position to be bitching about anyone being pimped.

Politics are ugly, and the taint from the Clintons is strong. You damn well better believe that Bill hanging around is swaying otherwise moderate/independents to either sit this one out, or vote for McCain.

FWIW - I voted for Bill twice, but I think his best play would be to fade away into the sunset right now.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:55 PM
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30. Over the top?
I didn't use the phrase "whore monger", which is quite common on, ahem, some websites.

"the taint from the Clintons is strong." Why? Because you say so?

"You damn well better believe that Bill hanging around is swaying otherwise moderate/independents to either sit this one out, or vote for McCain." Except that you don't know that at all. It just feels right.

You have no evidence, not only second-hand screeds. You are repeating defamations you have heard that sounded good to you.

Whence now the taint?

--p!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:37 PM
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22. Troll alert! n/t
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:43 PM
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25. Congratulations for lasting two whole days.
After you're tombstoned, borrow a dictionary from an adult and look up "subtle". It probably won't help you any, but just maybe in your next DU iteration you might actually last for an entire week. As for now, buh-bye.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:23 PM
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14. because
because of course, the word pimping has only 1 meaning, and it's a sexual meaning.

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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:16 PM
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10. wow what a stupid post
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:18 PM
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11. R.I.P. N/T
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:24 PM
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16. Go away newby.
That was just a disgusting thing to say. Who are you and what do you think u are doing here?
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hertopos Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:36 PM
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21. I think I should apoligize for making mistake.
I don't think you are Obama supporter.

You are Freeper!!

Hertopos
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:42 PM
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24. Yes, I'm sure Monica was The Lewinsky's *sanctuary* too ... and she was 5 years younger when Bill
had his affair with this intern, 22 y.o. to Chelsea's present 27 y.o.

No, this "oh my goodness, it's Princess Chelsea" will not play now that she's a FULL adult. :thumbsdown:
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hertopos Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:59 PM
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31. Excuse me, when did she show her lack of good judgment?
You don't make any sense.
What did Chelsea do. She helped her mother.

I know you hate Clinton. That's the only reason.
Since she is helping someone whom you hate, you want to attack her.
Right.

You go very low. You are also anti-anyone who work hard and makes good living.

BTW, let me tell you something about Monica. She clearly have some issues with her parents. It is sad her parents did not do a good job raising her nor did they help her much after the scandal broke. I really felt sorry for her. I don't think she deserved what happened.

Bill showed a serious character flow, yes. However, since there were no national interest involved, those entire thing could have been protected from public, like things happened in the past.

I do believe that politicians should be allowed to have a private life. They don't have to be a target from tabloid. Well, I hate tabloid to start with.

What you are implying is that we should go as low as tabloid level.

I strongly disagree.

Hertopos

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:07 PM
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6. I agree.
Democrats have lost in the past by "rising above" smear tactics. The Clintons fight back, and I admire that about them.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:11 PM
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8. Right to the heart of the issue. Good post. /nt
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:20 PM
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12. totally agree with you hertopos :)
You said that you're Japanese? Very courageous of you to stand up against sexist comments.
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hertopos Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:25 PM
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17. yes, it shows, I usually hate confrontation...
I tends to brush off some comment against me.

Well, if it is against my daughter, forget about me being 'confrontation averse' me.

I really hate cult meme... As much as I hate many wrong things said about Hillary.

Like #5 reply, why do they have to act like that. That's not rational

Hertopos
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:24 PM
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15. Beautifully written and truly inspiring.
"Chelsea is their sanctuary." I love that sentiment. Thank you for expressing the essence of the matter in those 4 simple words.

Chelsea is their sanctuary. Bless you.
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hertopos Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:28 PM
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19. This is first time I was complemented with my English expression on DU.
This is my second language. My first is Japanese.
I am a working mother married to an American.
Thank you for your complement.

Hertopos
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:40 PM
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23. Chelsea is AN ADULT who is PUBLICALLY Campaigning for two morally bankrupt people
IF Bill and Hill truly considered Chelsea *their sanctuary* they sure as shit wouldn't have her openly campaigning and "dialing for super delegates" for them.

Chelsea is FAIR GAME! If Chelsea's as sweet as the rest of you contend, then tell her to go back to her cushy SIX FIGURE Salary for her beloved Hedge Fund employer. :eyes:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:45 PM
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27. So she deserved to be called a whore?
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hertopos Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:47 PM
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28. So you are acting like RW nuts. Fair game means you are acting like RW
Since you are Obama supporter, who are acting exactly like RW,
you are one of those people who are giving MSM an excuse to use a silly meme 'Cult'.

Why do you have to go that low, I ask?
So this entire thing is very personal attack to you and therefore you want to attack their daughter, the only sanctuary remaining to them.

No, I don't think it is fair game at all.

Leave her alone. You make Obama look bad.

Hertopos
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:47 PM
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29. By your standards, so is Michelle Obama.
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