Fake ass outage: It also suggests that the Hillary camp sees the potential for political gain

[wndycty]

And to think Obama gets bashed for allegedly playing the race card (when is not), but this is ok?

-snip-
Though Shuster apologized this morning, the Hillary campaign has clearly decided to seize upon the opportunity to launch a major attack on the network. A few weeks ago Chris Matthews publicly apologized to Hillary after suggesting that her whole Senate career and presidential candidacy was made possible only because of Bill's shenanigans in the White House.

Asked about Shuster's "pimp" comment, Wolfson denounced the comment as "disgusting" and "beneath contempt," adding: "It's the kind of thing that should never be said on a national news network."

Then Wolsfon added: "You have to question whether or not there is a pattern here on the part of the network." He added: "Is this part of a pattern? I don't know, but beneath contempt."

Then, unbidden, he concluded: "I'll say this. We've done a number of debates on that network...I at this point can't envision a scenario where we would debate on that network given the comments that were made and have been made."

That he would effectively rule out future debate appearances for the time being strongly suggests that the Hillary campaign discussed this in some detail beforehand and decided to launch this broadside against the network. It also suggests that the Hillary camp sees the potential for political gain in drawing media attention to negative and sexist comments made on MSNBC about her and her daughter.
-snip-

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/hillary_campaign_goes_to_war_w.php

[Saturday]

1. I'm sorry you can't see past your cult to...

see what's wrong is wrong.

[bunnies]

8. The man already apologized.

What would please you? A public execution?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Imus Apologized Too

~

[bunnies]

22. Im sorry but I dont see how saying

C. Clinton was pimped out was the same as calling black women nappy headed ho's. Yeah... Davids comments were very much inappropriate but I dont put those two things in the same category.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. You Pimp Out A Prostitute

A hoe is a prostitute...

Does that clear things up?

[joshcryer]

2. It's about time someone goes against the media.

But I like how it is dismissed by the media as only trying to get political points.

[in_cog_ni_to]

3. Riiiight. They REALLY wanted their daughter trashed by Shuster on MSNBC.

:eyes: Pathetic.

[ShortnFiery]

42. No one's done more to trash the family Rep than Bill Clinton. Yet, Monica was 5 years younger than

Chelsea is today when Bill got his blow job in the Oval Office.

I can't believe that The Clintons can claim "OUTRAGE" about anything ... they are truly morally bankrupt ... it just may be rubbing off on 27 y.o. Chelsea.

They're PUBLIC and POLITICAL Families People, The Clintons are NOT *royalty.* :thumbsdown:

[in_cog_ni_to]

53. Bill Clinton's sex life is none of your damn business. Mind your own business and your own sex life.

Chelsea has done nothing to anyone. I didn't hear Shuster attacking Romney's 5 MILITARY AGE sons when they were campaigning for him. There's no doubt there's a Hillary hatred on the MSM...go read Media Matters for a while.:eyes:

[DJ13]

4. People already have a long time belief Hillary is a petty and spiteful person

This wont help that image.
:eyes:

Excellent......
:evilgrin:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Yeah

Nobody could understand why a parent would be offended that their daughter was called a prostitute...

:crazy:

[Dogmudgeon]

28. People already have a long time belief in Santa Claus

Be good for goodness sake!
:P

Ho ho ho ......
:evilgrin:

--p!

[Catherine Vincent]

5. STHU!

[golddigger]

6. If he would have said this about Obama's wife, DU would have crashed by now.

[wndycty]

9. And the minute he apologized we would have been told to shut up!

Its interesting to point out Shuster apologized, we was not defiant, he apologized but the Clinton camp wants to keep this alive.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. Imus Apologized Too

You can do a search...

I wanted his ass fired...He's a straight up racist chump...

[leftynyc]

25. That's where you're wrong

Nobody would have shut up and most would have demanded his head.

[golddigger]

46. I agree, the Obama supporters would be at MSNBC Headquarters

With torches and pitchforks.

[Alamom]

56. I think the insinuation of Obama being a "pimp" by pimping out any woman in his family or his

campaign for that matter, would bring out much more than torches and pitchforks........





The double standard here is stifling.

[Tom Rinaldo]

13. Can you imagine if a media pundit told Michelle...

to just go back to cooking chitlins? How many threads do you figure that would generate around here?

[wndycty]

17. So you went ethnic?

Last I saw both Michelle and Chelsea were women, why was it necessary for you go ethnic as well? Shuster was wrong, he apologized but the Clinton camp wants to leverage this for political gain.

Again, since Michelle and Chelsea are women why did you feel the need to go ethnic?

[Tom Rinaldo]

35. Good Grief

"Go ethnic"? Are you deluded enough to think that I just attacked Michelle? My point is that however spontaneous and "off the cuff" Shuster was being, he would never utter a racial analogy to drive home a political point, but it is hard to find a sexist analogy too outrageous for the media to use.

[NYCGirl]

7. MSNBC is hosting the next debate. You think Clinton will skip it now?

I don't.

[blogslut]

23. point

:)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Wow

Can you be more disingenuous?

Here's an experiment

Tell someone you know that they are "pimping" outh their wife,daughter, or mother and see then tell us their reaction...

[wndycty]

12. And watch them apologize show contrition. . .

. . .which Shuster did.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. In Real Life The Person Couldn't Apologize Because He Would Be Looking For His Teeth

And we both know it...

[rucky]

11. If someone accused me of pimping out my daughter...

I'd have more than a few choice words for him.

[wndycty]

14. And after he apologized would you keep bringing it up?

:kick:

[joshcryer]

18. We did for Imus, but it seems some people here think sexism is less important than racism.

[rucky]

29. I really don't know what I'd do.

But Chelsea is not anybody's daughter around here. If the Clintons forgave him, we all should.

[ShortnFiery]

16. Let's see about sexist? Chelsea is a public figure who is five years older than Bills Girlfriend ..

"Monica" during the 1990s.

This is BULLSHIT! It worked for The Clintons in the 1990s, but I'll be damned if I'm going to rally round their blather now in 2008.

Queen Hillary and Princess Chelsea's FANS need to grow up! :thumbsdown:

[wndycty]

20. The comment was offensive but to keep it alive for politcal gain is appalling. . .

:kick:

[Catherine Vincent]

48. It seems like you're the one keeping it alive. nt

[Dogmudgeon]

21. We aren't the ones throwing a tantrum

I also seem to remember some incidents about a Fairy Tale and Jesse Jackson that were blown out of proportion, twisted, and LIED about by the MSM.

--p!

[Mags]

30. What if he had used the word about BO's daughters?

[ShortnFiery]

33. Hello? Chelsea is five years older than Monica who gave her dad a blow job.

The Obama twins are WAY under the age of 18 y.o.

Therefore, the examples are not the least bit comparable.

[joshcryer]

37. What if they said it about BO's WIFE?

[joshcryer]

41. Well? Would it be OK then? Or only if it was "deserved"? Right? 'cause she deserved it.

[madmom]

32. talk about grasping at fucking straws, what the fuck has Chelsea done to deserve any of this shit?

She campaigns for her mother just like every ones else's family does, for this she is called a pimp and she gets vilified? WOW this really is an upside down world. Thumbs down to you my friend!!

[ShortnFiery]

38. If Chelsea chooses to PUBLICALLY campaign for morally bankrupt people, then some of the slime will

rub off on her. She's NOT royalty, nor underage. :shrug:

[joshcryer]

40. So in other words, it's not about the insult, it's about the context. Such an insult is fine given..

...context. You're sick.

[madmom]

62. you are dispicable...she is the victim and you vilify her how brave!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. She Was Called A Whore

In Shuster's perverted analogy the Clintons' are the pimps who pimped her out...

[ShortnFiery]

44. Now that's just pathetic. No one's a bigger whore than Bill Clinton with Monica so don't go there.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

55. We Are Discussing Chelsea Not Bill

You suffer from Bush* logic...He invaded Iraq because he had a beef with Osama bin Laden...

[Fleshdancer]

59. That's exactly what Shuster implied

I find it odd how some people don't make that connection.

[Mags]

51. Hey, I'm on your side in this.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. Again

Even John Gotti didn't target his enemies kids...

[VolcanoJen]

26. If Sen. Clinton believes there are other and more urgent issues worth tackling...

... then she and her camp should get back to doing the business of the American people, and especially back to the work of persuading the American people that she is deserving of their vote.

The man apologized. Move the hell on. And goddamn I'm so sick of her campaign working the victim angle *AFTER* they received the very appropriate and necessary apology from David Schuster, who, if this kind of thing still matters to Dems, has been an outspoken media ally of ours on just about every other day.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. If Shuster Said That About My Daughter He Would Be Looking For A Reconstructive Surgeon And I Would

Be Looking For A Lawyer...

[golddigger]

50. You got that right DSB...n/t

:grr: :mad:

[VolcanoJen]

63. And that would be your preogative, I suppose.

Me, I'm just sick and tired of the Phony Apology Wars that have gripped this country for far too long.

David Schuster has really been one of the few on-air reporters in mainstream media who has given the Democrats a fair shake over the past awful administration. Does anyone remember that he practically owned the Scooter Libby/Valerie Plame story from the beginning? Can anyone remember anyone else who was in mainstream media every night providing such excellent and accurate reporting on that issue?

He said something profoundly offensive, and has apologized once for it this morning in a sincere manner, and will do so again this evening. Is it truly your preference now that a reporter who made an idiotic statement exactly once in his career should now be removed from television and forced into a different career?

Schuster is an ally on every other day. I'd like to see him apologize again this evening, and then get back to work.

[kiva]

45. Apology?

I listened to his "apology." First he refers to it as a "housekeeping" matter; he goes on to say that he said many NICE things about Chelsea; then says he used slang that some people found offensive. In no way does he take any responsibly for what he said, only that some people might be offended.

You, and several other people on the board, have said that David Schuster has been consistently fair in his political coverage, which is good to hear, but doesn't exempt him from the need to simply say "I screwed up, used language that I shouldn't have, and won't do it again."

[CAcyclist]

36. It's Called Having a Backbone

What the Hillary campaign is doing is called fighting back. It's not surprising so many on here are having a hard time with this. We're used to our Democratic candidates rolling over and playing dead when hit with slime like this.

This is why I voted for Hillary and why I'm donating to her campaign. Let the war begin.

[ShortnFiery]

47. NO, it's called "bullshit outrage" and it's disgusting. It's not going to play well ...

for The Clintons like it did throughout the 1990s.

The American People are growing tired of both The BUSH and The CLINTON Families. They need to take their smarmy slime machines and GO AWAY! :puke:

NO SALE! :thumbsdown:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

54. Even Tony Montana Didn't Target His Enemies Kids

There's a scene in Scarface where they had booby trapped one of their enemy's cars and one of his accomplices wanted him to detonate the bomb but Tony wouldn't do it because the guy's kids were in the car...Tony ended up shooting him rather than blowing up the car with the innocent kids...

Tony Montana>>>> David Shuster....

[wndycty]

49. And when Obama fights back he is called a crybaby

:kick:

[golddigger]

52. Bullshit! If he would have said the same thing about Obama's wife

this Clinton supporter would be outraged too.

[Fleshdancer]

57. Hillary's handling the situation 10 times better than I would.

This is nuts. You don't go on national television and imply that someone's daughter is a whore because she's supporting her parent on the campaign trail. Chelsea Clinton has been ridiculed by adults who don't like her parents ever since she was a child and her parents have every right to be bat shit crazy pissed about it! All parents have that right when someone is going after their kid.

BTW, just because someone apologizes, doesn't mean the apology HAS to be accepted. I sure as hell wouldn't accept an apology from someone who talked that way about my child.

[Armstead]

58. Maybe she'll take NBC away from GE if she is elected?

...Nawwwwww. Nevermind.

That would be too much like actual enforcement of the spirit of communications and anti-trust laws.

[Apollo11]

60. Apparently, some guys think sexism is funny, even if racism is serious.

That's why you can find white guys who think it's fun to show up at one of Hillary's events and hold up signs while she was speaking and yell out loud "IRON MY SHIRT"!

But until now I have not heard or read any reports of any white guys turning up at any of Obama's events holding up signs and yelling out "SHINE MY SHOES"! just for "fun".

Hmmm ... I wonder why that would be? :eyes:

Maybe because sexism is funny? Because women don't fight back?

Well, guess what? It looks like Hillary DOES fight back! B-)

[HeraldSquare212]

61. They decided it's easier to fight GE than Obama. nt

[wndycty]

64. kick

:kick:

[Iceburg]

65. Trivializing misogyny , attacking Hispanics and Latinos,

sewing seeds of class divisions with boastful claims of how much money and affluence they wield ..."we got more celebrities than you ...na na na na na". One supporter actually referred to the non-Obama supporters as the "lunch bucket" crowd. If that wasn't divisove enough...

Obama pedalled his de-gayifying preacher and ex-gay Donnie McClurkin around the country offering a cure to the GLBT community. The message he is sending out: Don't hate the gays -- embrace them, for they are sick -- but we have the cure!
I ask you to imagine, yes imagine -- during the heat of the black civil rights movement one of the politicians offering to de-colorize your skin. How would it feel? ...

He took a swipe at "certain older women" as he tried to explain away his losses in California

Hi wife sends a signal that the Obama's won't support HC's campaign if she wins the nom ....the list goes on.

Bottom line: There has never been a more unprepared and divisive candidate on the democratic slate. He is bad for the party.