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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:36 AM
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Poll question: Should Chelsea Enlist to Support the Iraq War?
Democrats challenged Mitt Romney about his sons - saying that his sons should join the armed forces and serve in the Iraq war that Romney supported. Romney slid out of that by claiming his sons helped democracy by working for his campaign.

Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq war, and has a daughter, Chelsea - who is old enough to
enlist.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:37 AM
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1. Should Chelsea be left out of this mosh pit? Hell yes.
Please, let's not move beyond their spouses in the hate fest. Even the mafia doesn't do that.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:38 AM
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4. I agree
I wish people wouldn't stoop this low.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:39 AM
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7. Oh, what about other people's kids that Hillary sent to war?
Do they get a free pass out of the "mosh" pit?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:38 PM
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36. Didn't they all volunteer
to follow whatever orders their commander in chief gave them? I think that's how it works.
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Fabio Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:04 PM
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39. Lol. Of course no response to this point.
Leave Chelsea alone.

Who honestly knows what her feelings are about the war?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:16 PM
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43. They volunteered.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:39 AM
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8. She threw herself into the race. Her choice.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:44 AM
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22. Chelsea Clinton doesn't serve in the Senate
The Bush Twins aren't Secretary of State, Edwards daughter isn't a Rep from NC. Further more, NONE has them have made public Hawkish comments.

If any of that changes and they vote a certain way, then the poll has a right to be asked.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:38 AM
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2. This would make an interesting protest at her evenets. n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:38 AM
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3. I Am Dumber For Having Read Your Post
DemoctatSinceBirth
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:39 AM
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5. It was bullshit when we said it about Jenna Bush. It was bullshit when we said it to the Mittlings.
It's bullshit now.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:39 AM
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6. bad taste...
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:40 AM
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10. she's campaigning for her mother who voted for the war
she can enlist now.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:42 AM
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20. Let's call up John Edwards' daughter,
and John Kerry's too. Haul them all in because their parents voted yes to the IWR. :eyes:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:47 AM
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24. Edwards admitted his mistake, Hillary refuses to do so
Edwards didn't continue to support the Iraq war did he?
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:58 AM
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28. When Edwards was still in the senate
his voting record was to the RIGHT of HRC on Iraq. Apologies don't mean shit.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:14 PM
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42. Several years after his vote
Shouldn't she serve several years?
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:40 AM
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9. How low can you go....
I am disgusted with this poll and post.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:41 AM
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12. as low as someone who would send other people's kids to war
thats how low - ask Hillary.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:41 AM
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11. When you find a link stating that Chelsea supported the war, I'll vote.
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Crooked Moon Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:41 AM
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conversely...
should all parents who oppose the war have their children pressed into any and every public protest against the war?

or can we agree that children are not required to behave in accordance with their parents' convictions?
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:50 AM
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26. Thanks to Hillary's vote, thousands of sons and daughters cannot campaign for anyone n/t
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Crooked Moon Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:56 AM
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27. can it not also be said then that,
due to obama's votes, thousands who could be here fighting for change are still there fighting the iraqis?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:49 PM
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38. So if hillary had voted no
the war wouldn't have occurred?

Damn, she's some kinda powerful!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:41 AM
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13. No. And your poll is both offensive and stupid.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:41 AM
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14. We already had a flamey thread like this on here earlier this week
Most supporters of all candidates in the thread agreed that this was out of line. Whether it's Chelsea, the Bush Twins, Romney's kids, et al.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:41 AM
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15. Lather, rinse, repeat
This has been posted before and was just as stupid and low-life.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:42 AM
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16. you're post is pathetic
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:42 AM
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17. Let's stop this kind of garbage. Chelsea is ok with me and I'm a Obama supporter.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:42 AM
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18. Here's Skinner's post on threads like yours:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:42 AM
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19. Hillary wants to end the war. Therefore the OP is way off base.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:43 AM
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21. "Democrats challenged Mitt Romney about his sons"???
No, a few Democrats (or at least people posting on websites frequented by Democrats) challenged Romney about his sons. Most Democrats, I suspect, feel the same way about this as I do...Chelsea Clinton is an adult and makes her own decisions.

Dumb shit, this poll.
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red2blue Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:46 AM
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23. Hon long have you been a republican.
Democrats have to stop acting like stupid republicans. NO ONE voted for the Iraq War. STOP repeating republican taking points.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:49 AM
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25. how long have you been a republican?
Defending the war is a republican stance.

Voting for the war is a republican stance.

Don't forget that thanks to Hillary's vote for the Iraq war, many people's sons and
daughters were killed and therefore cannot campaign for anyone.

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red2blue Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:22 PM
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35. That would be BUSH
I understand you want to blame Hillary for this to make Obama seem to be the better choice. But the damn facts

The bill was suppose to be use to show resolve, not a green light to start the bombing.

In case you don't remember we were at war with Iraq.

Gulf War ended with cease fire so techincally we were still at war with Iraq.

Under the War Powers Act he did not need approval to invade Iraq.

In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon there after as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq, and

(2) acting pursuant to this resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorists attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

STOP blaming Democrats for this war.

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:58 AM
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29. Do we have to go over this every week?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:00 PM
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30. Yet another post that argues for an "UNRECOMMEND" button. NT
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:05 PM
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31. Anyone born in public life who wants to stay in it should serve.
If she wants to be a senator or president someday, she should join. This isn't to say there are no other careers for her--Ron Reagan, Jr. springs to mind as a president's child who distanced himself from his father's political life.

But when the time comes for people her age to be president, the question will be posed: why didn't you either go, or else join the leadership in the anti-war movement? It's a time for young people to demonstrate their convictions one way or the other.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:07 PM
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32. Why is it necessay to set up such divisive threads!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:11 PM
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33. Frankly I thought it was a cheap shot against Mitt, too
Speaking as an Iraq vet let me say that while I'm rather pro-military in general I cannot in good conscience advocate any woman enlisting in the armed forces until the do something about the rampant sex discrimination, sexual assault, and harrassment that is sadly plaguing the military so many women (and men) gave so much for.

More to the point, as children are not chattel of their parents, it's not like Clinton or Romney could somehow "send" their kid over even if they wanted to.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:13 PM
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34. What an assholish and completely inappropriate post/poll
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:38 PM
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37. Fuck off.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:10 PM
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40. Should ALL KIDS be punished for their parents poor decisions?
NO. Frankly, this girl has been through enough.. imagine the crap she probably took in the 90's about her dad. Now she has to enlist because her mom made a bad vote decision a few years ago?

Geez.. if I had to pay for all of my parents mistakes, i'd still be paying off credit card & medical debts for them, not to mention many more "social" mistakes they've both made.

Thank God we're all given actual free will!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:12 PM
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41. oh wow i see DUers here....for a minute I thought someone from FR highjacked my machine...phew
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 01:13 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:18 PM
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44. This poll has as much validity as others I have seen here suggesting
that the children of candidates and politicians enlist because of their parent(s) support of the Iraq war. It's a ridiculous argument.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:20 PM
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45. Indeed it is.
Those people who think it is a great idea are just ignorant and haven't thought it through. I wouldn't want Any politicians kid in a foxhole next to my own. Talk about having a bullseye on your back..........This isn't World War 2 where the location of these people isn't around the world in .000005 seconds.
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