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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:55 AM
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Why are so many wing-nuts "supporting" Hillary? Easy.... 2010
I think the wing-nuts know that the Democratic party will win the White House this year.

They see the turnouts and enthusiasm on the Dem side. They see the writing on the wall.

So they are already conceding this election and preparing for the next battle.... 2010.


If Hillary wins the presidency, it will be a fundraising and GOTV boon for the GOP in 2010. It will make 1994 look like a minor victory for them.

Every mailer they send out for two years will have Hillary's picture on it. Every commercial in every race in every swing district will have the Dem candidate's face morphing into Hillary's whil sinister music plays in the background.

To the right-wing strategists, this current election will be a lose-lose for them. They don't like McCain. And if they are going to lose the White House anyway, they can at least have the narrative that they lost because they nominated a "liberal"... thus pointing the way to a solid conservative running in 2012.

In the meantime, they feel they can make 2010 be a bloodbath for the Dems if Hillary is the President.


The only thing that can thwart their big plan is if Obama wins instead. They won't be able to generate the national hatred for Obama in 2 years that they have built up for Hillary over 2 decades.


If Hillary is our nominee.... we will lose the house and senate... if not in '08, then VERY LIKELY in '10.


Karl Rove knows this.... Rush Limbaugh knows this.... Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, and Sean Hannity all know this. That is why they are all pushing for Hillary to be president now. They think she'll be the next Jimmy Carter, which in THEIR mind, paves the way for the next Ronald Reagan.


We nominate Hillary at our own peril, fellow Dems.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:58 AM
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1. Listening to NBC lately? - not that they are right wingers and hate Hillary
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:24 AM
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9. If Hillary is our nominee - Dems will lose the house and senate in '10
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:48 AM
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14. perhaps - - and perhaps not
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 04:51 PM
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17. perhaps.........
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:58 AM
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2. What supporting Hillary? You mean like Peggy Nonan? Bill Kristol> The entire
corporate media?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:03 AM
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3. A Tale of Two Narratives
"We should vote for Hillary because Obama is running a Cult." (Bad narrative)

"We should vote for Obama so we won't piss off the GOP." (Good narrative.)

I say, piss 'em off. I vote for the bad narrative over the good narrative.

What the GOP needs is to be completely broken for a decade or two, to give it an incentive to purge its corrupt leadership and re-think its values.

Vote for the Dream Teams -- Clinton/Obama 2008-2016 and Obama/Whoever 2016-2024.

Sixteen Years Is A Good Start!

--p!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:07 AM
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4. Wrong narrative
It's not

"We should vote for Obama so we won't piss off the GOP."


It's

"We should vote for Obama so the GOP doesn't win."


BIG difference.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:13 AM
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5. Wouldn't it be better if you voted for who you want or at least who you..........
thought was the best choice?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:23 AM
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8. Which ultimately - is the only think that counts.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:20 AM
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6. Let me just jump in here
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 11:22 AM by BOSSHOG
What if Hillary wins and we gain more seats in the House and Senate in 2010 because of her performance in 09 and 10? A very practical thought. I do not look to limbaugh and rove to find out whom I should support.

If Obama gets the nomination those with conservative values will hate him intently for not allowing them to hate Hillary intently for the rest of the election cycle. Thats the kind of people they are.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:23 AM
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7. Well said. Limbaugh BTW, was hailing Obama up to the open SC primary
So, whatever these gasbags say, it's for whatever dirty trick they are up to for the moment. At this time, not even their usual audiences listens to them.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:26 AM
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10. I am not a wingnut
and I take offense to that. I have been a democrat since I was born. I am supporting Clinton because she can do the best job.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:03 PM
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15. And you obviously misunderstood. I also support Hillary and didn't say anything
about you. Only meant - using Rove, Limpballs's utterances to prove any point whatsoever in here - makes no sense.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:44 PM
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16. Off topic question
UALR - is that for University of Arkansas at Little Rock?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:46 AM
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11. Ahh, the "BE VERY AFRAID" argument...brought to you by FauxSnooze and MSGOP!
Take that bullshit somewhere where stupid people might buy it!!!

:rofl:

That's the lamest treatise I've seen in a while!
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:47 AM
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12. No, 2008 - they think they can beat her now.
That's why they want her and why we shouldn't give them the chance. GOBAMA!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:48 AM
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13. It's not 2010, it's 2008
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 11:49 AM by JVS
They don't like McCain, but if they get him running against Clinton, they'll like him enough.
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