The question is: What are Hillary and Bill hiding???

[cali]

Seriously, why won't they release their tax returns? What are they so determined to hide for as long as possible? This is a problem with the Clintons. They do not believe in transparency. Not in gov't and not in her campaign.

She needs to release her tax return. Now. Not when she wins. And that's an if, anyway.

This is a snapshot of the way the Clintons operate. It's disturbing. And there is no excuse for it, though you're certainly welcome to scramble for one.

[gateley]

1. My sense of the Clintons has always been they hide everything they can. nt

[Dogmudgeon]

11. You feel it, right?

You can't quite put your finger on it, but you just know.

Yes? No?

--p!

[gateley]

22. Yep! nt

[JackORoses]

50. it's not a feeling, it's a fact. they will not release the Tax returns, therefore they are hidden.

[niceypoo]

58. When you run a campaign on empty slogans, digging up dirt becomes necessary

Thats why the republicans do it every four years. Issues and substance don't matter to the Obama crowd.

[rndmprsn]

2. did they ever release that clinton library donor list?

i never heard they did or not...

[MonkeyFunk]

No

nor should they. Donations to charitable foundations are, rightfully, kept private.

[tekisui]

3. And, they have $10-50 million. That's one hell of a margin.

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. You first.

Scan that tax return & put it right here on Du.

[HeraldSquare212]

Obama released his so, yeah, as with everything else apparently, he's gone first. nt

[cali]

10. gee, genius, I'm not running for president.

what aa lame comment.

[The_Casual_Observer]

15. You keep asking about it every few hours, so put up or shut up.

[Bluerthanblue]

29. If they have nothing to hide, why avoid it?

why play games?

Your attacking Cali says to me, that you are worried about this.

I hope for all of our sake, that there is nothing about their return that is any big deal.

Why attack another person because you don't have an answer?

Are we not all Dem's ?

Do we not all want the best for each other?

:shrug:

peace~

[KittyWampus]

33. McCain didn't release his either. So Clintons LOSE that issue to attack him with.

[Bluerthanblue]

41. actually the "attack" possibilities

really don't interest me.

What does, is that this has become an issue for people who support, or might support Hillary-
And the solution is pretty simple really.

If there is nothing to hide, why not just release it.

If there is something to hide, then release it, and let's deal with it and move on-

maybe this is for attention???- it just doesn't make sense.

peace~

[cali]

52. make shit up much? This is the only thread I've EVER started

on this matter. And what the fuck do I have to put up? I'm not running for anything. duh.

[Windy]

5. were they asked to release their tax returns? Am I missing somthing? nt

[KittyWampus]

34. All POTUS candidates have since Nixon. Except for -wait for it- BILL CLINTON

this time around it's McCain and the CLintons who won't.

[onenote]

6. I don't know if they're hiding anything, but agree that they should release them

Presumably, anything in them that would cause a problem in the primary season would also cause a problem in the GE. WHile I have no reason to think that there is anything that would cause a serious problem, not disclosing is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[ursi]

7. maybe it is connected to that civil suit that is supposed to start soon in LA Sup. Crt?

Paul v Clinton?

[jackstraw45]

8. Dirty Money...between this, the fear-mongering, the race-baiting...

...and the refusal to admit error on the IWR - HRC keeps sinking and sinking as a candidate for the highest office in the land.

[Dogmudgeon]

14. You forgot "the blowjob"

--p!

[guruoo]

31. smells like ...

[Dogmudgeon]

9. A pony for Chelsea

To make up for growing up with a press corps that accused her parents of lurid crimes every single day.

--p!

[City Lights]

12. Not a thing. They've been fully vetted, remember?

:sarcasm:

[AntiFascist]

26. Can someone vet this?

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/hillary6,16,01.htm

If the Clintons have the dirty elements of the FBI, CIA, NSA and IRS on their side, then We the People may be at a big disadvantage.

By 1995-96, matters intensified in which William Colby was implicated, in one way or another. The First National Bank of Cicero, dominated by mafia-CIA darling Bishop Paul Marcinkus, recent head of the Vatican Bank, had been taken over by Pinnacle Banc Group, the successor and alter ego of the infamous Bank of Credit and Commerce International. It was becoming more and more known, through items posted on Internet, and stories elsewhere, that the espionage operation, BCCI, dominated by CIA, had not, in fact, collapsed in July 1991; that Pinnacle was the new name and face. Four major, international news operations had the BCCI bribery list, how they bribed 25 percent of both houses of the U.S. Congress -- 28 U.S. Senators and 108 members of the House. Although the establishment news groups had the list and corroborated its validity, they decided not to go with it -- it would destabilize the U.S. central government. Strange, but the list, for 30 days, was a public record at the Bank of England! This writer received from a brave journalist the list and corroboration, and wrote a story about it in a right-wing paper in 1991. The publication received the list of names but deleted them from the published story. By 1995, the names were becoming more and more known and the result: an unusually large number of representatives and senators suddenly decided to resign, retire, and not run for re-election in 1996. Some of them had already arranged their re-election campaign literature.

It was becoming more and more evident that former CIA Director William Colby was directly implicated in the dirty business -- now implicating the Clintons -- of Household International and Household Bank. Colby was reportedly directly involved in the BCCI/Pinnacle Banc Group espionage operations. The Roger D'Onofrio Affair in Italy was not going away; he was a top American CIA official, residing in Italy, put under house arrest for being involved in arranging for the Vatican Bank, in conjunction with the Sicilian mafia, to launder dope and gun loot, smuggle gold, and sell nuclear bomb triggers to sworn enemies of the U.S.

Much more at the link!

[City Lights]

38. You should probably start a thread with that. I'm sure HRC's supporters

can explain it away for you.

[H2O Man]

13. That is a fair and valid question.

Thank you for asking it. Voters have to have the skills of a juror sometimes. If a candidate claim that attempts to justify secrecy, it should catch our attention.

[Catherine Vincent]

16. They'll release them when they are good and ready. nt

[cali]

18. That's not good enough

what with the Burkle stories and their propensity to not disclose the library donor list, this just isn't good.

[Thrill]

17. The money trail to the Health Care Companies

She is the corporate candidate.

[mtnsnake]

19. Are you so concerned because you think they've broken the law?

[cali]

24. I'm disturbed because it's common practice for

candidates to release their tax returns and they haven't. Obama has. I don't think there's anything illegal but I suspect that their are financial deals they'd rather keep to themselves.

[MonkeyFunk]

32. It's common practice for the nominee to do so

and if she's the nominee, she will.

[mtnsnake]

37. So you don't think there's anything illegal, then

I don't either.

OK, if you're disturbed because you "think it's common practice for candidates to release their tax returns", and only Obama has so far, just when is the deadline for this common practice to have taken place? By what date, in your opinion, should the Clintons have released their tax returns? I'm not trying to pull your chain, I'm just trying to figure out what the problem is because I'm not that familiar with the timing of it and all. What's the big deal, other than Obama released his tax returns first?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

20. what would happen if she is the nominee and then we find something untoward in the tax returns

then the GOP will have fun?

[oasis]

21. "Disturbed" by the Clinton's right to privacy,

That one takes the cake.:eyes:

[guruoo]

25. Yeah! heheh!

:rofl:

[guruoo]

23. Has McCain released his?

Just askin'.

[KittyWampus]

36. No, and the Clintons therefore can't use that against him.

[MonkeyFunk]

42. Did Edwards release his?

Biden? Richardson? Dodd? etc. etc.

[KittyWampus]

46. Everyone except Edwards who is no longer running and McCain.

[MonkeyFunk]

51. Do you have a link?

I've googled Richardson, Dodd and Biden and can't find any reference to it.

[guruoo]

45. They could still choose to release theirs -during the GE

Timing would be crucial.

[MonkeyFunk]

56. She has already said she'll release hers if she's the nominee

the OP is bullshit.

[TexasObserver]

27. They're hiding truckloads of cash made from unsavory characters

Based upon news reports of Bill's dealings with oil barrons and dictators.

[David Zephyr]

28. None other than our own John Q. Citizen asked this question also.

How on earth, cali, or we as Democrats going to waltz into a general election with the Clintons hiding their tax returns?

The Clintons are, once again, expecting us all to just be suicidal to help their ambitions.

They are going to take the party down.

And if they don't disclose and disclose now, then Barack should eliminate any consideration of her being on his ticket.

[Perry Logan]

30. Another bullshit anti-Clitnon thread, insulting her millions of supporters.

[northzax]

35. what if they file seperately?

do you want them both? Chelsea's too?

I expect Senator Clinton will release her 2007 tax return when it is prepared, that is the standard.

[KittyWampus]

40. We are talking about the 2006 tax returns. Kerry and his wife released both of theirs

Teresa didn't at first but did eventually to avoid looking like there was something to hide.

[MonkeyFunk]

44. Yes

and they released them after Kerry secured the nomination.

Clinton has said she'll do the same.

[KittyWampus]

49. Um, no. You are wrong. We are referring to CANDIDATES not nominees. Thanks for trying though

[MonkeyFunk]

53. I'm not wrong

Kerry secured the nomination in March, and released his tax returns in April.

[RockyTorres]

39. AREN'T WE SUPPOSE TO BE DISCUSSING ABOUT

how we are going to win the White House in November and not giving the GOP ammunition against our candidates?

[guruoo]

47. Oh, they're here too....

fanning it, for sure

[Donnachaidh]

43. Deflecting from the chickening out from the debates?

What a truly republican ploy. :wow:

[scheming daemons]

67. Nice try..... Obama's agreed to two debates between now and March 4th...

...you've lost that talking point.... time for the next one.

[bigtree]

48. Desperation politics. This place has become a disgusting bore.

[tishaLA]

54. I'd be really interested to find out.

[MonkeyFunk]

55. When did you become so dishonest?

I'm sure you're well aware that she's said she'll release her returns if she's the nominee.

John Kerry released his AFTER securing the nomination. Clinton will do the same.

[shaniqua6392]

60. Thank you for your truthful explanation.

You are right about her comment on the returns. She will release them if she is the nominee. Anyone who is a smart politician would do the same. That is what I would do. It is a stupid practice anyway. These people plan for years to become the President. When was anything found from these returns that had relevance? I have to believe they know what they will have to reveal at some point and the Clinton's have already been through this game and know how to play.

[Cameron27]

62. Thanks

:thumbsup:

[David Zephyr]

57. Kicking this up for the evening.

Kick.

[JVS]

59. Pact with Satan, duh!

[AZBlue]

61. Well, if they release the returns, then she really can't lie about needing money.

And she doesn't think she can use the crying trick a third time, so she's gotta lie. Gosh, don't you know anything about politics?

:puke:

[MonkeyFunk]

64. Do you really think

her personal finances and her campaign's finances are one and the same?

[Auntie Bush]

63. What are Barack and Michele hiding regarding their association with Rezco?

See...two can play this attack game!

[KittyWampus]

65. Nothing. And the fact their finances are totally public shows how fucked up YOUR candidate is.

[Auntie Bush]

68. The Clinton finances are much more complex than anyone else's with

all their campaigning, years as president and and books etc.

[sundancekid]

66. bush-cheney lite never rang a louder bell - ANOTHER secretive politico? no, thanks