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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:04 PM Original message |
Democrats the DNC and the Florida and Michigan Debacle that threatens everything |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. Those states are both VITAL to a November victory |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Then if Florida is reseated...Hillary will be the nominee. |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. What do you think of having new primaries or caucuses? |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. A waste of time, money, and energy |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Absent other considerations, it would be fine, but... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. How do you feel about the FL Dems who introduced the bill and sponsored it. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Sure, we can go ahead and punish Florida and its party... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. She will not be a legit winner if she gets Florida delegates. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Hillary must not get Florida delegates. It would be a coup. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Just so you understand, this could be done at the convention anyway... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Just so you understand.....it would still be a coup. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. No, it wouldnt... now you are not being consistent |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The rules say the delegates of Florida just are not existent. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I think you dont understand the rules and power of those at the convention... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. They can choose, but it will be against the rules that were made. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. "Hubby and I will leave the party if she gets Florida delegates." |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. How dare you. I have been on this since day one. It was and is a coup. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. How dare *I*? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I would have supported either. Until she started pushing for FL delegates |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. You forgot to mention that Florida helped plan the early primary....voted 115 to 1 for it. |
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samrock (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
10. Florida |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That is correct. I think I said that in my article... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. You are not telling the truth. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. See my response "If you are correct" further down |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. No, that is just not true. Let me go get my journals and post them here. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. And if you are correct? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. You know what? I heard that song before... |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. The only fair thing is to hold caucuses in each state |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Bill Nelson said no to that. I just posted it. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Another election should be held. |
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RunningFromCongress (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
15. I don't have a big problem w/ letting 1/2 the FL delegate sit... |
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RockaFowler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
24. Why can't they seat half?? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Florida is really wrong. They are determined Hillary will win. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
32. Dont' forget that Obama "campaigned" in FL in 9/07, after the pledge had been made. |
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daleks not included (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
33. I called the Michigan Democratic Party... |
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mrJJ (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
34. MANDATE that MI & FL CAUCUSS |
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RockaFowler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Yes, but why should the people suffer |
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sandyj999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. AMEN!! n/t |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Blame isnt the issue... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Party Politics over the PEOPLE matters |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Oh, my goodness. Nothing matters now, does it? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Precisely n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
38. You are being completely DUPED |
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mrgorth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
42. Nope. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
46. So, after all of this back and forth, is anyone here AGAINST the idea of a new caucus? |
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sandyj999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I am all for it but who will pay for it? You all know the condition this state is in. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. If you write a followup article, perhaps you could point out it was Florida's fault. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I never said you weren't bright... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I am focused on the aspect that FL did it on purpose and you don't see that. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
50. WOW, it just hit me how you phrased it. It only hurts Hillary |
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