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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 10:48 PM
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We Stand Our Ground
Edited on Sun Mar-07-04 11:09 PM by WilliamPitt
It has been put forth here that some of us have 'forgotten' Iraq because we are supporting the presumptive nominee. Personally, I disagree.

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Editor's Note | I delivered the following comments as the keynote speaker at the Veterans for Peace National Convention in San Francisco. - wrp

http://truthout.org/docs_03/081003A.shtml

We Stand Our Ground
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Sunday 10 August 2003

I must begin by saying that standing here before you is, simply, one of the greatest honors of my life. I have never served in the armed forces in any capacity. My father, however, did. He volunteered for service in Vietnam in 1969. The changes that war wrought upon him have affected, for both good and ill, every single day of my life. Vietnam did not only affect the generation that served there. It affected the children of those who served there, and the families of those who served there. That war is an American heirloom, great and terrible simultaneously, handed down from father to son and from mother to daughter, from father to daughter and from mother to son. The lessons learned there speak to us today, almost thirty years hence.

Let me tell you a quick story about my father. His call to the freedom bird came while he was still out in the field. He arrived at Dulles Airport to meet my mother still dressed in his bush greens, still wearing the moustache, with the mud of Vietnam still under his fingernails and stuck inside the waffle of his boot sole.

A few days earlier, he had come across a beautiful old French rifle. It was given to him by a Vietnamese friend, a former teacher with three children who had been conscripted permanently into the military. My father managed to bring this rifle home with him, and sent it on the flight in the baggage hold along with his duffel.

My father and my mother stood waiting at the baggage claim for his things to come down. The people there - and this was 1970, remember - backed away from him as if he was radioactive. They knew where he had just come from. If the greens were not a giveaway, the standard issue muddy tan he and all the vets wore upon return from Vietnam was. When the rifle came down the belt, not in a package or a box, just laying there in all its reality, the crowd was appalled and horrified. My mother and father looked at each other and wondered what these people were thinking. What did they think was happening over there? What did they think it is that soldiers do? Did they even begin to understand this war, and what it meant, what it was doing to American soldiers, to the Vietnamese soldiers like my father's friend, and to the civilians caught in the crossfire?

The looks on those people's faces there said enough. The answer was no. They didn't know, and apparently didn't want to know. Now, thirty three years later, we are back in that same place again, fighting a war few understand that is affecting soldiers and civilians in ways only those soldiers and civilians can truly know. Ignorance, it seems, is also an American heirloom to be passed down again and again and again.

Many of you know, far better than I do, what my father felt that day in Dulles. That is why I am honored to speak to you tonight. If the American people fully knew what this war in Iraq was really about, if they fully knew what it means today to be a soldier in that part of the world, they would tear the White House apart brick by brick. If the people had but a taste of the horror and the lies, they would repudiate this administration and all it stands for. The don't know, because they have been fed a glutton's diet of misinformation and fraud. Changing that is why we are here.

(snip)

This is the Project for a New American Century, the product of a right-wing think tank that, in 1997, was considered so far out there that no one ever thought its members would ever come within ten miles of setting American policy. One broken election, however, vaulted these men into positions of unspeakable power. Their white papers, their dreams of empire at the point of the sword, have become our national nightmare, and the nightmare of the world. I speak of Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, John Bolton, Lewis Libby, and the rest of these New American Century men who have taken our beloved country and all it stands for it and thrown it down into the mud.

You will note that I did not name George W. Bush, for blaming Bush for the gross misadministration of this government is like blaming Mickey Mouse when Disney screws up. He is not in charge. Truman said "The buck stops here," and so we point to Bush as a symbol of all that has gone wrong. But he is not in charge. These other men, these New American Century men, have delivered us to this wretched estate, and by God in Heaven, there will be a reckoning for it.

(snip)

When you stare into the obsidian darkness of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington DC, it stares back at you. The stone of the monument is jet black, but polished so that you must face your own reflected eyes should you dare to read the names inscribed there. You are not alone in that place.

You stand shoulder to shoulder with the dead, and when those names shine out around and above and below the person you see in that stone, you become their graveyard. Your responsibility to those names, simply, is to remember.

Remember what that dream, that idea that is America, is supposed to be. Never forget it. Never let your children forget. Hand it down, generation after generation, because it is the most valuable heirloom we all possess. If we lose it, we have lost everything.

When all else fails, I fall back on the words of the extraordinary anti-war activist, Daniel Berrigan. A friend of Berrigan's, Mitchell Snyder, was for years an advocate and activist for the homeless in Washington DC. Snyder became despondent over the fact that his government could spend billions on bombs and planes and guns, but could not seem to find the money to help the homeless. Snyder became so despondent that he committed suicide. Daniel Berrigan penned these lines in memory of Snyder, and it is in these lines that I find my hope and strength when the darkness creeps too close.

Some stood up once, and sat down
Some walked a mile, and walked away
Some stood up twice, then sat down, "I've had it" they said,
Some walked two miles, then walked away. "It's too much," they cried.
Some stood and stood and stood.
They were taken for fools,
They were taken for being taken in.
Some walked and walked and walked.
They walked the earth,
They walked the waters,
They walked the air.
"Why do you stand," they were asked, "and why do you walk?"
"Because of the children," they said,
"And because of the heart,
"And because of the bread,"
"Because the cause is the heart's beat,
And the children born
And the risen bread."

The cause is the heart's beat. This cause is my heart's beat. It is yours. May it be there for all time, until that day comes when we can, once again, stand in awe and pride before our flag and our government and our nation, when we can once again revel in the rescued dream that is America.

Until then we are at the barricades, and on the streets, and in the faces of all those who would spend the precious blood of our men and women on lies and profit and greed. The obsidian darkness of that memorial demands this of us. The golden ideals of this nation demand this of us. The laws of our forefathers demand this of us. Most importantly, we demand this of ourselves.

They can take nothing from us that we are not willing to give, and we are not willing to give this great nation up. Let them be warned. We stand our ground.

Thank you.

...more between snips...

Video version

In case that doesn't work:

rtsp://cspanrm.fplive.net/cspan/archive/iraq/iraq080803_mcdermott.rm
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 11:06 PM
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1. I remember seeing you give this speech
I believe it was on CSpan. :D You had a great response from the veterans and their questions were insightful. Thanks for the refresher. :hi:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 11:10 PM
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2. Even before we had a presumptive nominee, I saw
virtually no difference between the major candidate's policies (as reflected on their websites) on the issue.

All agreed:
that we couldn't just cut and run.

that the UN must become involved.

that a provisional govermnment must be installed.

that we must gain international support for any exit strategy.

The differences were mere degrees, fer JoeBob's sake.

I support DK, but WHY THE HELL do I have to feel guilty for supporting the presumptive nominee over his stated issues on Iraq? Where is the difference? :eyes:
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 11:14 PM
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3. I love that speech Will
I still pull it out sometimes when I need it. :-)

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 11:43 PM
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4. Kick
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 12:07 AM
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5. That was an excellent speech. We watched every minute.
Thanks for reminding us of that. It was powerful, and there were vets in the audience crying.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 12:16 AM
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6. Thanks
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 02:52 PM
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13. Are you kidding??-
I watched it three times cried all of them and then printed it out for my kid to read!
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 12:21 AM
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7. I listened to the speech on the Veterans for Peace website
awhile back. I remember, in the speech, when you said "I have never served in the armed forces" the vets cheered and you were surprised they reacted like that. I personally wasnt surprised that they did. That was a good speech. It's still there to listen to. I visit that site often since I am one of them... :hi:
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:15 AM
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11. .
It was a very good and strong speech.

About that cheering, it was somehow surprising for me as well.
Could you or someone who understands can explain that?
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 03:48 PM
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14. A combination of things-
One Will showed respect for the men and women who did by stating outright he lacked the experience, and two it was a strong slap down of Bush's supposed "service" and then sending more of their fellow soldiers off to be wounded and killed.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 04:15 AM
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8. As to Berrigan's poem:
Some stood up once, and sat down
Some walked a mile, and walked away
Some stood up twice, then sat down, "I've had it" they said,
Some walked two miles, then walked away. "It's too much," they cried.
Some stood and stood and stood.
They were taken for fools,
They were taken for being taken in.
Some walked and walked and walked.
They walked the earth,
They walked the waters,
They walked the air.
"Why do you stand," they were asked, "and why do you walk?"
"Because of the children," they said,
"And because of the heart,
"And because of the bread,"
"Because the cause is the heart's beat,
And the children born
And the risen bread."


And, of course,

Some gave their blessing to war,
And to the killing of the children,
And to the stilling of the heart,
And to the wasting of the bread,
Then spent the rest of their lives
Trying to "explain" why...


:-(
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 10:45 AM
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10. Is that the rest of the speech?
I never knew that. Thanks!
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 03:52 PM
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15. No, Will...
...it's something I wrote.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 04:41 AM
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9. Thanks, Will. My friends were there to hear you...
...I caught the broadcast. Great speech.

Hekate


"Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war." ~Donald Rumsfeld

"But why should we hear about body bags and deaths and how many,
what day it's going to happen, and how many this or what do you
suppose? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my
beautiful mind on something like that?" ~Barbara Bush

"They must live in an alternate universe." ~Hekate

ARLINGTON WEST, SANTA BARBARA CALIF.
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Default.htm
click on the large photo of AW to go here:
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Arlington_west_121003.htm
Scroll down the page.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 02:43 PM
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12. One last
bunt.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 07:56 PM
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16. I have read the written speech
but until tonight not watched it. Will, you got it going on!

Keep talking out! Rep McClellan was stunned. You have a message and know how to deliver it, and it is the truth.

Ok, I'll get off my knees now.

:kick:
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govegan Donating Member (661 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:54 PM
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17. Let it not be forgotten.
n/t
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