Wow, Obama supporters are desperately trying to jam a nail in Hillary's non-existent coffin.

[PresidentObama]

Last night was a virtual tie.

And you guys think you have the nomination, huh?

It's a tight race, and I can't honestly say who will win.

My moneys on Hillary, but I'd certainly not bet a lot.

I would suggest you stop gloating over a tie, and start focusing on the contests ahead.

You know? The ones you're saying Obama's already won, even before it's happened and the delegates haven't been given out.

This is a horse race. Let's race!!

:)

[maddiejoan]

1. I'd suggest we let them go with it.

February will be their last chance at celebrating, and I don't wish to be a killjoy.

[PresidentObama]

3. Even when I was for Edwards, I never counted Hillary out. Even after Iowa.

She's a tough lady.

We've got ourselves a tight horse.

I, for one, like it :)

[rinsd]

2. What do you expect? most people here are complete assholes, the candidate does not matter.

[rodeodance]

4. yes, that is so evident

[PresidentObama]

5. I think it's went from supporting who they like to bragging rights for them.

Any time Hillary is up, the attacks come out.

Any time Hillary is down, the spin keeps on spinning about how they have it in the bag.

They seem to forget that last night was a virtual tie. No way to spin it.

[rinsd]

6. We have our share of yahoos here too.

I have most of them on ignore.

[LiberalFighter]

24. You forgot that they are mostly idiots too.

They get hung up what they think is happening without understanding the process.

In regards to election turnout the figures don't mean a damn in a primary. Case in point we had a city election with a high interest in the mayor's race last year possibly due to the previous mayor deciding not to run for re-election. The Republicans had nearly 8,000 in the previous primary election and nearly 17,000 turnout last year. The candidate backed by the powers to be in the Republican party was beaten in the primary by the newcomer. Despite the huge turnout in the Republican primary just over 19,000 turn out to vote for the guy and he lost by a 60-40 margin. And this in an area that is considered Republican.

Until all the eggs are in the basket don't count them! When will people ever learn. And politics is about as fickle as it gets.

[TheDeathadder]

7. Not to mention

Hillary won on average the states that had large vote counts in the hundreds of thousands and Obama won many states on average with tens of thousands of votes.

[grantcart]

8. fact 1 she is stalled

fact 2 she can't compete with Obama on money

[formernaderite]

20. i was torn as to whether to still pull the lever for edwards

but come tuesday it looks like I'll go for my third choice...Obama.

[LiberalFighter]

25. If enough people vote for Edwards in their district he will get delegates.

Providing delegates is not just based on 15% threshold state-wide but also by congressional district. At-large are done state-wide.

[formernaderite]

26. but what's the purpose of that?

other than to grant him some leverage as a broker?

[MonkeyFunk]

28. Your chart is 3 days old...

here's the latest

[cali]

9. what are you talking about. There are MORE Hill supporters

saying Obama's done, he's peaked, etc than Obama supporters saying she's done. Pretty selective of you. Obama supporters are pointing out her money troubles and that the calendar favors him for the next 3 weeks. Can you honestly say you wouldn't note the same things if it was reversed?

Maybe you should suggest that your fellow Hill supporters should stop gloating too instead of being so one sided.

[Alexander]

10. Last night was a tie, but since Obama's got more money, a tie favors him.

This isn't over, not by a long shot.

But last night was not a bad night for Obama by any stretch of the imagination.

[NoBorders]

11. I for one

Am not wasting time or energy spinning the tie on ST. Definitely more interested in the upcoming states.

Personally, the Obama's gonna win mantra's plays to Clinton's advantage, IMHO, just like the whacked zogby polls changed the narrative from a 'tie' being something of an upset to just a plain old tie.

[tridim]

12. Must be primary season or something.

:eyes:

[newmajority]

13. Super Tuesday was deliberately engineered to produce a Hillary coronation, but it did not.

Now that doesn't mean Obama has won the nomination YET. But it does mean Hillary lost yesterday, by the system her machine set up. And you know she's gotta be feeling that setback.

[MadHound]

14. I think that most of the celebration comes from the fact that Hillary's mantle of inevitability

Has been ripped away, and now she's having to scramble for both funds and a new campaign strategy. Everybody had the inevitable meme shoved down their throats by the Hillary camp for a long time, and now that it turns out to be false, there is joy and hope. Also, with Hillary loaning her campaign money, and trying to cobble together a strategy for the rest of the primary season, people rightfully smell blood in the water.

Frankly at this point the only thing left that can safe Hillary is super-delegates, and if she is picked in such a non-democratic manner, there's going to be hell to pay.

[PresidentObama]

16. Hillary's got a capable team. I'm sure she can come back from a Super Tuesday tie.

The race is far from over.

And Hillary hasn't been seen as inevitable for a while now. Where you been?

Even after New Hampshire and Nevada.

[MadHound]

21. No, but Hillary and her campaign have played it out that way all along

They were certain that with an initial buttload of cash and a front loaded primary, they would be able to storm through the early primary season and blow everybody out by today. They kept this strategy even in light of the cracks showing during NH and NV.

Yeah, she can come back from this, but it is going to be an uphill battle all the way, especially considering that she no longer has the money advantage. Like I said, I think that her fallback strategy is to keep close enough that she can take the undemocratic path to victory, and use the super delegates to snatch victory at the convention. But odds are, she isn't going to be gaining the lead in pledged delegates, the schedule and momentum favors Obama.

[still_one]

15. Come on, I am an Obama supporter, and the fact is they are tied

This is just typical juvinille nonesense which occurs in the primary general discussion forum

[EFerrari]

17. Can we retire the adverb "desperately"? It's so old already

and there are soooo many others to choose from. :crazy:

[DainBramaged]

18. Of Obamabots, Clintonistas, and McCaindroids

Got to love them all. :eyes:

[LittleClarkie]

19. And so did some Hillary supporters try to slam a nail in the Obama campaign

Ditto.

It's both sides dude.

[rox63]

22. It's a tie so far

No one has the nomination locked up. Both candidates did well last night. There has been no blowout of any sort in this race. At this point, I wouldn't be suprised to see this go all the way to the convention.

[PresidentObama]

23. Maybe so, I think it's going to gone on through the Spring at least.

[sniffa]

27. Of course not she's dead... YET

She's obviously not down and out, but it's looking that soon they'll be checking the campaign's organ donor card. The results of yesterday, was a devastating blow to her chances. Everyone knows that the delegates were basically going to split yesterday, so it was all about perception; the fact that Obama won more states (including some Clinton had banked on wrapping up, like CT. and MO.) I think is going to dry up her fund raising even more so.

C/P from another thread because it doesn't pay to say the same thing a different way.