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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 04:38 AM Original message |
Senator Kerry on National Service |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. mandatory service |
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LiberalBushFan (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 04:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. no |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. mandatory community service |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Oh cry me a river. You are making most of this shit up. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Deleted message |
Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Easy solutions? |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 07:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I have good reason... |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 07:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Not the only one |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. So as long as they're PROGRESSIVE slaves, it's OK? |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Slaves? Why don't you just start out with the Hitler references? |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
82. absurd hyperboles? |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
237. Why are you so hip for this????? |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Slaves? |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Ummm.... |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 09:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. What an obvious ploy |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
67. Don't confuse them with facts ... |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:50 AM Response to Reply #67 |
79. BKL...If Bush issued the statement above... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:57 AM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 08:04 AM Response to Reply #84 |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #89 |
102. Yes, it's constructive to identify the ploys used |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 06:29 PM Response to Reply #79 |
325. in order to support Kerry (in the primary) |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
149. Service is wicked easy... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #149 |
176. OH MY GOD!!! A 180 days a year |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #176 |
232. no...BUT WE HAVE TO PAY TO PARK! |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #176 |
238. that's not the point |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:41 AM Response to Reply #238 |
306. I don't care if you don't like it |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-04 02:24 AM Response to Reply #306 |
375. Is this a discussion board? |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. Forced labor won't spark progressive anything |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
148. "On the face of it, sure, it's slavery..." That sort of says it all, don't |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. the whole mandatory aspect is reflective |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. If they do.... |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. I knew the Nazi references would be coming |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
150. The Nazi references are natural responses to a program like this |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #150 |
164. Free, but with responsibilities |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. Love it or leave it. |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. Truly |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. Maybe the responsibility not to abuse it. |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Well, that may reflect different backgrounds |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. An earlier era? |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #172 |
177. Well, that puts you at odds with the overwhelming |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #177 |
179. It's a hard life. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #179 |
181. Too bad |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Which one? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #183 |
184. Name one |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Why? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #186 |
189. Name one |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #189 |
194. No. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #194 |
201. Then how can you be certain? |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #201 |
203. Oh no! |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #203 |
209. Nope |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #209 |
210. Why should I find someone who agrees with me? |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #210 |
243. I agree with you |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:23 PM Response to Reply #210 |
248. I agree with you too |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #248 |
250. Our numbers grow by the second! |
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hedgetrimmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:33 AM Response to Reply #210 |
287. I agree with the FeebMaster... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:35 AM Response to Reply #287 |
288. I think we might outnumber |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #209 |
215. There you go. |
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latebloomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #215 |
223. I agree with you too! |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #189 |
212. "Goobergunch" (n/t) |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #183 |
211. I agree with you |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:10 PM Response to Reply #169 |
241. Yes it is |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
147. Sounds like an out-of-touch Yankee elitist scheme to me. |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 12:55 AM Response to Reply #147 |
265. Tom DeLay is that you? |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:01 AM Response to Reply #265 |
267. If the Democratic party.... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 02:31 AM Response to Reply #267 |
300. Of course the Democratic Party |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:05 AM Response to Reply #265 |
269. Well, buddy, maybe I'm preaching to the freedom and individual |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 02:27 AM Response to Reply #269 |
298. Seems more like the anti-Government libertarian crowd |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 02:50 AM Response to Reply #298 |
303. heh... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:35 AM Response to Reply #303 |
307. Again, your regionalist biases are unbecoming |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #307 |
315. heh.... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #315 |
316. Um |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #316 |
320. Bill Clinton and Donna Brazile have both stated.... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:15 PM Response to Reply #320 |
347. The 1996 State of the Union Address |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #347 |
364. oops, my bad. It was 1995, and here's what he said: |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:46 AM Response to Reply #303 |
309. That definition of "elitist" works from where I stand also n/t |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:14 AM Response to Reply #147 |
274. As a Yankee, I denounce thie infernal scheme. |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
137. Or maybe some jobs aren't worth paying for/nobody has the money |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:18 AM Response to Reply #137 |
276. Who's being cynical here? |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:21 PM Response to Reply #276 |
362. not really |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
193. I went to school full time, worked 30 hours a week and volunteered |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:09 PM Response to Reply #193 |
240. So because you did it.... |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 04:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Mandatory service CREATES jobs |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. What does this mean, then? |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. You are making this up. |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. what do you think I am making up? |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. "Potential" to be paid |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 09:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. I see |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. "forced child labor" OH NO!! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
154. Has "Defend Kerry No Matter What" replaced ABB |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #154 |
247. I think you are right |
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Vas Liz (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 01:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
54. Are you for real? |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:01 AM Response to Reply #54 |
99. Look at all the parks being constructed today |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Ummm....mobuto......both of the programs you mentioned... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:26 AM Response to Reply #100 |
107. Got paid hansomly? |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Compared to farming in the dust bowl.... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. You don't |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #107 |
155. My dad built parks in the CCC and $30 a month was good money |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #155 |
165. So Kerry's National Service = 500 dead Americans? |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 12:52 AM Response to Reply #165 |
263. Who is harmed by compulsory national service? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:43 PM Response to Reply #155 |
227. It is the will of Landru! |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 12:45 AM Response to Reply #227 |
262. Damn! I knew it was trekkish! n/t |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #107 |
213. You can't involve people in democracy against their will. |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #213 |
233. you can if they're minors |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #233 |
245. really? So child sodomy is OK? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #233 |
255. That's just a fabulous line of reasoning |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #233 |
259. What about the parents's opinion? |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:06 PM Response to Reply #259 |
359. parents opinion is reflected in voting |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #107 |
254. $30 in 1934 would be $401.18 today. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #99 |
251. The whole point of those programs was to PAY people. |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
143. whoo thar killa |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Except, of course... |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. "indentured servants"? EGADS AIYEEE! |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
367. Because the punishment is meant to teach them something |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #367 |
369. That's odd... |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
151. Do you honestly think we oppose this plan because it's Kerry's? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #151 |
178. We? |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 12:56 AM Response to Reply #178 |
266. I don't know. Why don't you count the above posts for a starter. |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:03 AM Response to Reply #266 |
268. Interesting, |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
192. I will not support the introduction of Subotnik for kids! |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. kick |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. What's the difference between mandatory service... |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. This |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Under Kerry's plan.... |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
85. More disingenousness |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 08:00 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Support that. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #88 |
103. Your lack of knowledge is not a persuasive argument |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Uh huh.... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #106 |
114. Highway funding is a conscription program? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Deleted message |
sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Wrong. You compared Kerry's proposal to conscription |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. Smells like a totalitarian regime, particularly the high school part |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Community Service has been a part of High School requirements |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. This is Gestapo tactics when you have the feds subverting local schools |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I knew someone would mention Hitler! |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Good catch! |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I had personal experience |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Were you in the HitlerJugend? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 09:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 12:05 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. then please explain your bavarian youth quilting circle comment... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 08:10 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Nope...just hoping you'd explain your previous statement..... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #90 |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-04 02:46 AM Response to Reply #104 |
377. What is the deal with the bavarian youth quilting circle? Hitler? Hmmmm |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
195. Gestapo! Skulls and Bones! The Sky is Fucking Falling! |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Isn't involuntary community service... |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
197. Not everyone in this world views community service as punishment |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. Then by all means, do it. |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:14 PM Response to Reply #198 |
205. I did it because I was forced to, during HS it was a requirement |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #197 |
214. Ummm.... |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #214 |
221. see post #205 |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #221 |
224. Ahhhhhhh..... |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #224 |
226. the only one saying anything about picking up trash is you |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #226 |
230. Uh huh.... |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:24 PM Response to Reply #230 |
234. Wow, another community service=prison sentence metaphor |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #234 |
244. "adversity builds character". |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #244 |
252. Putting words in my mouth and more rhetoric |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:30 PM Response to Reply #252 |
253. what else would you call... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:11 AM Response to Reply #224 |
271. It will train them for when they grow up and get put in jail. |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
216. So? |
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GH0ST (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 07:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. Stinks like totalitarianism |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
25. Kerry's absolutely right |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. You want patriotism? Create a society in which everyone has a stake in it! |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. With all due respect to you and Emma Goldman, |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:46 AM Response to Reply #27 |
65. Emma Goldman Rocks! i like this defention of Patriotism from the american |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. So is the Draft.... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Kerry doesn't. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. "...absolutely right" |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
98. So you're basically calling Wes Clark and John Kerry Nazis |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #98 |
132. I don't think they're "Nazis" |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #132 |
138. Ok, so John Kerry and Wes Clark are "fascists" |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
366. Clark's service plan was voluntary, wasn't it? |
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AmyStrange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
40. Thanx MD... |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 10:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Hi Dave! |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
42. No thanks, Mr Kerry. |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
50. Poll on Community Service Requirement for High School |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-04 11:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Kerry is advocating a federal program |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 12:55 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. No, these would be STATE programs. Read it again. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:23 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. If we're talking about STATE programs.... |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:30 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Obviously you didn't even read it. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:33 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. And there's no control connected to the pursestrings? |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:40 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Let's cut to the chase - as long as this isn't your candidate nothing |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:45 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Unfortunately... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:10 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Look on the bright side DNR. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:34 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. You mean something OTHER than the festive orange jumpsuits.... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #71 |
128. I was thinking something military like. |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
208. And it sucks and it's a bunch of bullshit. |
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Vas Liz (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
55. This tears it |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:05 AM Response to Reply #55 |
68. This makes it occur to me... |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:47 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Why soft-step around the issue? |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #77 |
97. "Creating a New Army of Patriots" |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:28 AM Response to Reply #77 |
283. Mainly those who would be losing 2 years of their lives. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:27 AM Response to Reply #68 |
282. Yes. It certainly is a good way of getting all the ducks in a row |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
56. I dont like that bit about not giving fed aid to schools that ban ROTC |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Didja notice... |
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Vas Liz (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:38 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Bingo |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:42 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Also, you'll remember.... |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:46 AM Response to Reply #58 |
112. ditto |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
199. that's already implemented |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
69. Work to Welfare! |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:36 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Not only that.... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:31 AM Response to Reply #69 |
285. Wow, they might be able to afford a year's worth of textbooks! |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
70. More Work to Welfare, Please... |
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BruinAlum (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:39 AM Response to Original message |
73. What a bunch of big cry babies! |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:41 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. When they expand it to the "highest form of service".... |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:10 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Keep them all Busy... |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #73 |
219. Do you want my rant on requiring physical education classes? |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:41 AM Response to Original message |
74. Creating a New Army of Patriots |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:44 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. ESPECIALLY.... |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
78. If Goerge W. Bush suggested Kerry's plan, word for word.... |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:18 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. I agree 100% |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:00 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. You are right, if Bush had proposed this we would have every Democrat |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 08:00 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. What a ridiculous argument |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 08:26 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Yep |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-04 02:40 AM Response to Reply #87 |
376. this is a ridiculous rebuttal |
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Vas Liz (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
206. Never forget |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:36 AM Response to Reply #83 |
290. Not every Democrat would be screaming bloody murder. |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 08:29 AM Response to Reply #78 |
92. But he didn't did he? Context modifies everything. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 08:39 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. IIRC....Roosevelt's CCC and WPA..... |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #93 |
235. Yeah, but... |
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Vas Liz (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #92 |
207. This is some nice theory Mr. Chomsky |
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dawn (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:23 PM Response to Reply #78 |
163. Actually, I'd be very surprised if Bush* suggested any of this. |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
94. I have fond memories of volunteering for 4 weeks every |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:36 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Ummmm..."mandatory".... |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Yep, you can quit your job and you can quit school. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Why is there public school? |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. There are already mandatory requirements at school. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:35 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. So.... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #110 |
119. Answer the question |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:59 PM Response to Reply #108 |
220. > Why should any unathletic student be required to take gym? |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:13 PM Response to Reply #220 |
225. Or why shold the physically handicapped be forced to take gym? |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #225 |
249. They aren't |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
95. College should be free, not in return for archaeic conscription(nt) |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #95 |
113. Why? |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #113 |
116. because it is a HUMAN RIGHT |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #116 |
121. I'm all for education |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #121 |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. OMFG, this thread has become absolutely absurd |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #123 |
139. My opinion |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #139 |
190. it was a paraphrase of monty python |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #121 |
239. I'm all against mandatory service |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #113 |
117. actually... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. No it doesn't |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 11:04 AM Response to Reply #120 |
122. writing the check is easy.... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:33 PM Response to Reply #122 |
337. Low taxes, no big government |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #337 |
340. When did I say I wanted lower taxes? |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #340 |
350. Ok, fine |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #350 |
365. Sure... |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 11:07 AM Response to Reply #120 |
124. let's talk about SOCIETIES responsibility to MANKIND |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
125. This is the main reason I won't ever vote for Kerry |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Community service causes mass murder? |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #126 |
200. the rhetoric spewed on this board is getting more ridiculous by the moment |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #200 |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. It just amazes me when some who have gotten a helping hand |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #127 |
231. Beautifully said, HopeLives |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #127 |
260. My family does give back...we all volunteer |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #125 |
131. Actually, I am quite thankful you are not a Kerry supporter |
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Hav (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #125 |
133. . |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #125 |
135. Punitive? |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:36 PM Response to Reply #135 |
180. Well, community service has generally been punitive in nature.... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #180 |
196. Well maybe that's the problem then |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:12 PM Response to Reply #180 |
204. I've never had to wear an orange jumpsuit while performing CS |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #204 |
217. Ah. You VOLUNTEERED.... |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #217 |
218. Well, I had to perform CS to graduate HS, still no orange jumpsuit |
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dawn (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #125 |
161. So I guess you prefer how four more years of Bush will treat your kids? |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #125 |
228. I'm a high school senior, and I know exactly what you're talking about. |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:50 PM Response to Reply #228 |
229. That's an interesting point. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
134. another nail in the coffin of Kerry's political career (absolutely SICK!) |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. What High School studenthonestly wants to be forced to take Algebra? |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. algebra is ACADEMICS |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. You don't understand. |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. Please tell me you are being sarcastic... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Extremely sarcastic. |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #144 |
152. That's your mistake |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #152 |
156. k Sese Seko. Whatever you say |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #156 |
160. Will do |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #140 |
153. So what? |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #153 |
157. that's nice |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #157 |
162. Call it whatever names you like |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #162 |
257. we don't need the state to teach our children values |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 12:53 AM Response to Reply #257 |
264. This Contempt for Public Education |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 02:17 AM Response to Reply #264 |
296. what are you talking about? |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #153 |
182. Heheheheee.... |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #136 |
222. I liked algebra |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #222 |
246. NERD!! |
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dawn (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #134 |
159. I feel sorry for you. |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #134 |
191. I was required to do community service to graduate highschool |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
141. Some of that is okay, but some parts sound like the leftovers of a |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. Amen pal. eom |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #141 |
185. either that, or.... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #185 |
188. Come on DNR, |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 02:30 AM Response to Reply #188 |
299. Is reading the Bible to old folks community service? |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 02:34 AM Response to Reply #299 |
301. I guess. |
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dawn (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
158. I think these are great ideas, especially expanding the Peace Corps. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #158 |
187. I don't think most people here have a problem.... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
168. I like this very much |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:46 PM Response to Reply #168 |
258. Army of Patriots |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #258 |
275. Its amazing how forceful some are |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:22 AM Response to Reply #275 |
278. No one is arguing against community service. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:22 AM Response to Reply #275 |
279. There's a HUGE difference between ENCOURAGING community service... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:45 AM Response to Reply #275 |
291. Thank you but I give up |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:49 AM Response to Reply #291 |
293. If we owe nothing.... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 02:01 AM Response to Reply #293 |
294. Only if all the rest of us do I guess |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 02:23 AM Response to Reply #294 |
297. No thanks.... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:51 AM Response to Reply #293 |
311. Greed Greed Greed |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 05:21 AM Response to Reply #275 |
304. I am forceful |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #258 |
314. Its called leadership |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
170. Don't ask what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #170 |
174. No need to ask. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
173. Butterflies |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
175. Who comes up with the titles of these ideas? |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
236. this is crap |
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union_maid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
242. What a lot of fuss about nothing |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #242 |
256. This needs to be fussed over |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-04 11:04 PM Response to Reply #256 |
261. "the federal government should not require national service" |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:06 AM Response to Reply #261 |
270. Correct |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:13 AM Response to Reply #270 |
273. You support it because you've stated here..... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:36 AM Response to Reply #273 |
289. Again, slavery? |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:46 AM Response to Reply #289 |
292. Do I think it's Kerry's goal? No. |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 02:07 AM Response to Reply #292 |
295. You think slavery is a coming? |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 02:38 AM Response to Reply #295 |
302. "rewarding civic mindedness" |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:49 AM Response to Reply #302 |
310. Not a zero sum game |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #310 |
323. You said: |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #323 |
336. The same way the GI Bill doesn't cost |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #336 |
342. Heh.... |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #342 |
345. There already is a two-tiered system |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:50 PM Response to Reply #345 |
368. come on.... |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:13 AM Response to Reply #261 |
272. I supported Clark whole heartedly but the "new patriotism" slogans |
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WitchWay (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 05:35 AM Response to Reply #272 |
305. creepy language |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #305 |
308. Ethanol and increased auto efficiency? Sounds like bandaids n/t |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:19 AM Response to Reply #242 |
277. You're absolutely right |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:26 AM Response to Reply #277 |
280. And HOW, exactly.... |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #280 |
313. it will encourage unity |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #313 |
317. Ah, yes...."Unity".... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #317 |
319. Afraid of unity, are we? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #317 |
321. Unity of purpose is not incompatible with diversity of members |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #321 |
322. "Unity".... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 06:22 PM Response to Reply #322 |
324. Your fear of the word |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #324 |
326. Heh....look around you.... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #326 |
331. I'm well aware that some issues |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #331 |
332. Apparently mandatory national service |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #332 |
334. Anything mandatory usually is |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:26 PM Response to Reply #334 |
335. So basically you've got |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #335 |
339. You make it sound |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #335 |
341. Well I suppose he could use |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:57 PM Response to Reply #341 |
343. It seems to me that "forced labor" |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:04 PM Response to Reply #343 |
344. "Forced Labor" implies |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #344 |
346. Comparing slavery |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:17 PM Response to Reply #346 |
348. Is it now? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:21 PM Response to Reply #348 |
349. At least you would be free to cross the borders |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #349 |
351. No one will be forced? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:28 PM Response to Reply #351 |
352. It is an agreement |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #352 |
353. Agreement? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #353 |
354. The laborer |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #354 |
355. The penalty would be not getting |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #355 |
357. The argument I gave in support |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #357 |
358. I understand. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #358 |
360. Well it is not |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #360 |
361. Well I already graduated high school, |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #361 |
363. I figured that |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #354 |
374. Couldn't the same be said of slavery? |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #352 |
372. If you leave to avoid it.... |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:57 PM Response to Reply #349 |
371. Ahhh..."love it or leave it".... |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #343 |
370. That's like saying working on a chain-gang.... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #324 |
328. Unity at DU? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #328 |
329. What is the problem with understanding the possible uses of |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #329 |
330. I'll have to take your word for it (nt) |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:07 PM Response to Reply #329 |
333. Unity at what cost? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 07:35 PM Response to Reply #333 |
338. Prior to going in |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:26 AM Response to Reply #277 |
281. See the benefits |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:29 AM Response to Reply #281 |
284. Really....if they're FORCED to volunteer.... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 01:33 AM Response to Reply #284 |
286. You wouldn't think so. |
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opstachuck (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
312. big deal |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #312 |
318. Or they can join the Explorers or Young Pioneers.... |
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opstachuck (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #318 |
373. what the hell is this? a message board for conspiracy theorists? |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-04 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
327. "Recruiting More Americans to the Military" |
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356. Wow |
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