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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:57 PM
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California is still out and Hillary's giving a Victory Speech now?
Is it going to be not close and she's going to be declared the winner during her speech? Or did she tank in California and she's calling it a night?
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:58 PM
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1. she is a very keen perception based speaker
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:58 PM
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2. she plans on giving a 2-hour speech
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:58 PM
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3. I'll take option 2.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:58 PM
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4. Oh dear. Every candidate has given a speech.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:58 PM
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5. she's not declaring victory and neither will Obama, she's thanking voters.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:59 PM
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10. She also mentioned the 2 deaths that resulted from the extreme weather.
Well done Senator Clinton.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:03 PM
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27. I don't remember her quoting an exact number ...
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 11:04 PM by ShortnFiery
at least she wasn't tacky enough to "use this" for a "choke up" moment.

At least she had the grace not to take advantage of this ... that's a pleasant surprise.
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:17 PM
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44. You just can't be civil, can you?
No surprise though.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:58 PM
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6. You read my mind
But I think the answer is tie.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:58 PM
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7. And it's ALL about HRC. "I see" "I see"
What a arrogant person, I will not ever vote for THAT! :thumbsdown:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:00 PM
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20. You're in agreement with Barack and Michelle that she shouldn't take that "tone."
How dare she use that haughty word "I" when referencing things from her perspective.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:09 PM
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35. Yes, the undertone of all of HRC's speeches is, "It's all about Hillary's Presidency"
All about HER reign - NOT truly about The American People but about The Clintonian Executive Branch. :shrug:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:11 PM
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37. you are RUDE and WRONG--but you know that don't you!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:16 PM
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43. I support what RodeoDance says.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:02 PM
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23. You have never given her a thumbs up on anything.
When you have something of substance please come back. Other than that move on to the next window and pick up your fries. :eyes:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:07 PM
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33. & You have never given Obama a thumbs up on anything.
Profound. :eyes:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:09 PM
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34. And yet what Obama will be speaking before Cali comes in.
So is he arrogant also and gets a thumbs down from you?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:18 PM
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45. Y'know, I'm going to give them both a thumbs up.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Que sera, sera -- these are primaries and we're trying to take the pulse of the country.

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:19 PM
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46. California gives Hillary more super delegates. The raw vote shows her ahead at such an early phase.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:59 PM
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8. I suspect it is because she wants her speech to be in primetime.
In all timezones.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:00 PM
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14. Winner
Didn't think of that.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:01 PM
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22. Yup.
:)
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Athletic Grrl Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:04 PM
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28. They all did, for the most part.
The only ones who haven't spoken are McCain and Obama. Ron Paul? Who gives two shits?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:05 PM
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31. California may take awhile - lots of absentee votes to count and certify
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:13 PM
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39. My liberal 84-year-old aunt in CA told me she voted absentee for Obama.
She calls "Billary" a couple topped by a sociopath. Tired of the Bush-Clinton "legacy" -- is all in favor of passing the torch to a black/white man.

I didn't fight with her. I don't know why she feels like she does, but she is frail and wears a pacemaker. No way I want to have a knock-down, drag out email or telephone fight with her.
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:22 PM
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47. Well, my 88 year old CA Aunt voted for Hillary.
So I guess they canceled each other out. :hi: But isn't it great that the gray old ladies are out there voting! :)
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:32 PM
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48. Our gray lady is one wonderful woman. She is dealing with some physical issues
which are truly insurmountable (needs surgery but cannot have it at her age). So she trucks on.

I wish I have half her gutsiness when I am 84.... make that an "if"!!!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:59 PM
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9. Keith said all the candidates want to get the East coast audience
before they go to bed.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:02 PM
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25. That makes sense. nt
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:59 PM
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11. Whoa. Good point.
This is sounding like a concession speech. Talk about a turnaround in a few hours.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:59 PM
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12. Two Possibilities
1) She knows that the 11pm news in the east is coming up so she wants clips on there. And she knows most of her strong support is in the NE so she wants to thank them while they're still up.

2) She's nervous about the results in the west and her team has pushed her out there before the bad news starts coming in.

My guess? It's a little bit of both.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:59 PM
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13. It is expected that they will speak before we go to bed here on the East Coast
You heard the announcers say that - why are you playing this fake spin game?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:00 PM
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15. wth
what is she doing... this is insane
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:00 PM
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16. She's Triangulatingf... Ya See, If You Take The Hypotenuse Of...
:silly:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:00 PM
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17. She just congratulated Obama on his victories as well.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:12 PM
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38. yes she did, and talked of the deaths related to tornadoes. ect
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:00 PM
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18. I don't get it.
The black art of politics at work.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:00 PM
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19. It's not a "victory" speech. She is celebrating the moment and giving
her supporters what THEY want and that is to hear from her.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:00 PM
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21. It's a pitch for those voters in the upcoming primaries. I figure O will do the
same.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:02 PM
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24. giver her a break she wants to hit prime time
on the east coast not a bad strategy Obama will be next
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:03 PM
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26. Obama is giving his "victory" speech in a few minutes, Einstein.
What do you say about that?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:05 PM
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29. Nobody's giving a victory speech tonight. It's too complicated to simply declare victory. NT
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:13 PM
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40. Bingo. Hill did not give a victory speech.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:05 PM
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30. What time do they close in CA? Cripes a bit early to call it there.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:15 PM
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42. May take a while -- 11PM ET/8PM PT. We're there...
Love ya, LiberalFighter
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allthingsimportant Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:06 PM
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32. wow
some people will bitch about anything. i voted for obama today, but this is not a general election. she is ny, where it is 11pm.....why should she not speak.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:10 PM
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36. silly--she did have victory in MASS!
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:14 PM
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41. She was speaking in NY to a state she won, silly...
and of course wanted the national coverage before east coasters fall asleep. Just like Huckabee and Romney (and McCain).
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