Is Nader even going to be on the ballot in every state?

[Sufi Marmot]

I'm curious, because in 2000, according to CNN's election data, he wasn't even on the ballot in seven states: GA, ID, IN, NC, OK, SD, and WY. In other states, he doesn't appear to have run as a Green Party candidate, but rather as an independent.

Is there a website somewhere that details for each state the requirements to be on the ballot as a Presidential candidate?

I'm interested because whereas Nader claims he's running for President, I wonder what he's actually doing about it, especially since he's not officially associated with the Green party this time. Does he have enough infrastructure to get on the ballot in most states, if this requires signatures?

My interest is purely academic, so no flame wars please. Thanks!

-SM

[BruinAlum]

1. He's running as an Independent, and no he can't even get on the ballot

in most states, from what I understand.

[bigwillq]

3. That's why I feel he won't make a difference

This time people know better. It's a Shrub-Kerry steelcage matchup.

[meti57b]

4. FR had a thread on how many signatures and how much ...

application fee is to get him on the ballot in each state. I just assume they can do it.

[BruinAlum]

5. That is assuming too much.

[Sufi Marmot]

14. That's the broader implication of my question...

If Nader only gets on the ballot in, say, 25-35 states, it affects Democratic campaign strategy, depending on which states have him on the ballot. Worth paying attention to as we get farther into the campaign and various state filing deadlines come and go.

If nothing else, the "6%" he was polling earlier in the week assumes he's on the ballot in every state the poll was conducted, which is not necessarily a valid assumtion.

-SM

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. Doubtful he can get on many, but the Greens or someone could Draft him

[BruinAlum]

6. The Greens have already rejected him.

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. We can still draft him state-by-state though

We do not function as a party the sma way as the DNC, Our state parties have more autonomy.

[GreenInNC]

18. state by state

Each state party, when they agree to become a member of the USGP must agree to support the national candidate of the USGP. It is called the Accreditation Agreement. If you have questions, you should contact your state chair or your CC rep.

[GreenPartyVoter]

24. The question is, though

if enough states draft him, does it make a difference at the national convention? (I keep seeing emails on various greens lists about drafting him state-by-state, so I assumed it was relevant.)

[codegreen]

7. the Repugs will definately get him on every ballot.

make no doubt about it.

they may even fabricate support and recruit for him in the so-called 'swing states'

[GreenInNC]

8. Nader and ballot access

Each state has different laws concerning ballot access and counting of votes. While he was not on the ballot in 7 states, there were only three states that recorded zero votes for him: NC,OK, and SD.

If paying a fee was the only thing you had to do to get on a ballot there would be no problem but it is not that easy. In NC, an independent candidate has to get 100,000 signatures from registered voters to get on the ballot. I guess he could pay people to gather signatures.

If you are not affiliated with a party, most states require signature gathering.

He has declared that he does not want our (Green Party) nomination so we are moving on without him.

If you are interested in ballot access, you can look up Ballot Access News, it has the requirements for access in all states and which parties have acquired it.

[Sufi Marmot]

11. Ballot Access News...

If you are interested in ballot access, you can look up Ballot Access News, it has the requirements for access in all states and which parties have acquired it

I see the links to all the different state web pages but is there a page which summarizes it all? The search function doesn't seem to be working for me...

[GreenInNC]

13. Link for party requirements

Go down to the end of the page and you can see how many people each party has by state and the requirements for partys to get access. Couldn't find requirements for independents http://www.ballot-access.org/2004/0201.html

[Sufi Marmot]

15. Thanks - I think this is exactly what I was looking for... n/t

[Sufi Marmot]

17. So if I understand this correctly....

In Florida an indepdendent candidate needs ~93,000 signatures to be on the ballot. West Virginia ~13,000. New Hampshire 3000, Pennsylvania ~26,000, Illinois 25,000 , California ~150,000, etc.

In some states certain parties (like the Green Party) can't get their candidates on the ballot for 2004 anyway: Illinois, Pennsylvania, New York, Washington.

It seems that not being the official Green Party candidate (whose candidate is already on the ballot in many states), that Nader will have a hard time getting on the ballot in many places. The fact that he's not affiliated with any party really hurts him here...



-SM

[GreenInNC]

19. correct

The polls show he is getting 5-6% support but since he will not be on a lot of ballots he will be lucky to get 1% of the vote

[Thucydides]

21. Thanks for education GreenInNC, thats good news for us Dem's!

It was also nice to see a Green Party member on DU post something in a manner that was not inflammatory, combative or argumentative. From what I have seen at DU, a lot of Greens seem to be very testy. Nice Post, thanks!
:hi: :pals:

[mikehiggins]

23. So Nader can't get on most state ballots. Isn't that a pity...NOT n/t

[OKNancy]

20. Also some states have the requirement that the signature

must be from a registered vote who did NOT VOTE in the Democratic or Republican primary. So, active Republicans can't sign the petitions.

If the Democrats want to really get on the ball about this, they should study and challenge the petitions.

[Nicholas_J]

10. Depends on the state and its rules

In some states you have to get tens of thousands of signatures to be on the ballot.

[caledesi]

12. Memo to Ralph: Make yourself a hero.

Drop out of the campaign after you get a certain percentage of votes and give them to Kerry. Redeem thyself.

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

16. relax dems..

the libs have a stronger candidate in gary nolan and he will pull more votes from the right than nader from the left.. the media polls with nader at 6% is bs, and is only published to put pressure on nader to get out.

look here, gary is second in fundraising via amazon.com.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/misc/flag.html/002-4436877-8730444?s=amountTotals&x=11&y=3

gary is president of www.capitolwatch.org

relax, its all good.

[mikehiggins]

22. Absolutely not. It is extremely difficult for an independent to get

on the ballot and requires a widespread and dedicated base of support, which this Nader run is lacking.

The ONLY support for Nader's candidacy exists in a handful of power centers in the nation, beginning with 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and trickling down among the mass of pundits and pollsters.

I wondered what they would do to keep getting "face time" on camera, now that the primaries and the Martha Stewart trial seems to have come to their ends.

Nader's campaign is a natural. Only a matter of time for Nader to become as omnipresent on the TV screen as Michael Jackson.

Nader in 2004 EQUALS four more years of BushCo.