Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

UK Guardian on the Vice-President hopefuls

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:58 AM
Original message
UK Guardian on the Vice-President hopefuls
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 11:14 AM by Thankfully_in_Britai
Guardian article about how Geography influences the VP choice, as well as a list of hopefuls for the job, which I will post here. Feel free to give us your thoughts on this list and any other names you would like to add to it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1161654,00.html

John Edwards North Carolina senator
Pros
Southerner, with proven appeal to independent voters. Polite campaign, graceful concession
Cons Cannot promise own state and failed to prove he could deliver southern states. Slightly frosty relations with Kerry

Bill Richardson Governor of New Mexico
Pros
Hispanic heritage, speaks fluent Spanish. Strong international experience as an ambassador to UN and negotiator with North Korea
Cons He is a Catholic, like Kerry, and has not proved he can export his appeal to other states

Hillary Clinton New York senator
Pros
Her surname, and her rock star appeal among the Democratic faithful and women swing voters
Cons Her surname, and her capacity to mobilise Republicans against her. And the Democrats can take New York for granted anyway

Dick Gephardt Democratic congressional leader from Missouri
Pros
Missouri is a swing state, and he has strong union contacts. An aggressive debater
Cons Failed miserably in his run for president, even in neighbouring Iowa. Like Kerry, a Washington 'insider'

Evan Bayh Indiana senator
Pros
Could deliver own state and perhaps neighbouring swing states. Moderate with potential appeal to independents. Has served on armed services and intelligence committees
Cons Bland speaker who may appear lightweight in debates with Dick Cheney

Bob Graham Florida senator
Pros
Comes from the right state, where he is popular. Has made the administration's intelligence failings in the al-Qaida war his specialist subject
Cons Has a heart condition (but so has Cheney) and his presidential campaign was stillborn

Ed Rendel Pennsylvania governor
Pros
Pennsylvania is a must-win swing state. Rendell is a former chairperson of the Democratic national committee so he knows the game
Cons Hardly represents 'new blood' and may easily be painted as a party apparatchik

Bill Nelson Florida senator
Pros
Also comes from the right state. Nelson is a former astronaut, which always looks good on the CV. Served on the Senate armed services committee
cons He lacks charisma and it is thought he might come off worse in a debate with the vice-president
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:02 AM
Response to Original message
1. No Clark or Cleland? (Note, I prefer Edwards, personally) (n/t)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. My own thought when I saw the article...
..was why no Wesley Clark? I have to admit.

I still have more of an idea of where Clark stand then I do with all the others save for Edwards and Graham, who was the guy I was originally preferring out of your presidential candidates.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:03 AM
Response to Original message
2. None of the above
How about Wes Clark? I have not been a clarkie, but I think he is the best bet - the repukes can't go up against him, how about a debate with fat white grub Unkie Dick with the General? I would give a lot to see that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Clarks life focus isn't domestic policy. He'd be better served on the NSC
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 11:12 AM by Bombtrack
either state or defense secretary or for that matter National security advisor or CIA director.

He doesn't have a proven record of broad popularity in any region or demographic or state. Sectors of excitement in a democratic primary do not count. Kerry has all the military and foriegn policy experience he needs.

Bob Graham is the most popular politician in the most pivotal red swingstate(and overall swingstate), and he only has to serve for one term, at which point there can be another veepstakes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:15 AM
Response to Original message
4. My choice: George Mitchell..
He's smarter than snake cheney, older than cheney but looks younger and healthier. George Mitchell was just appointed CEO (?) of Disney. That would be automatic free tv for Senator Mitchell and Kerry.

If the Disney world trusts George Mitchell, wo will Americans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Mitchell is from maine
That's a double New England ticket. And how the hell could Nelson be duller than Chainme?(not for you)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:38 AM
Response to Original message
6. Nelson
One neat thing about Nelson is that like Bush, Cheney, and Kerry, he attended Yale. If Kerry picks Nelson, this will be the first all-Yale election in American history. There must be something in that New Haven water.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Torgo4 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:38 AM
Response to Original message
8. Forget Sitting Demos
Kerry needs Democrat support wherever it is. He mustn't remove a sympathetic Demo like Clinton from a state where a Repub will appoint a Rebub.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 07:09 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC