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TruthWins Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:45 AM
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A Vote for Nader is a Vote for Bush
Just a reminder.
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:48 AM
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1. repetition doesn't persuade
also a reminder
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thehonesttruth Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:49 AM
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2. so..
kerry 40%
bush 30%
nader 30%
bush wins 60% to 40%
wow
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:50 AM
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3. Only problem with that theory
is that Bush isn't getting 30%.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:57 AM
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4. It doesn't matter to them.
They know this. I've seen one of them state that they don't care if Bush* wins because that would bring a total collapse and then they could start anew. I, of course, think that is crazy.
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:59 AM
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5. Fuzzy Math
I keep reading this "A vote for Nader is a vote that will keep Bush in office."

Actually, this is only half true, and only if the voter would otherwise vote for the Democratic nominee. If you were planning to sit out the election or cast a protest vote for another third-party candidate, and you vote for Nader instead, the effect on the presidential race is exactly the same: nil.

If you decide to vote for Nader instead of John Kerry (or whoever is the Democratic nominee), then it's true that you're taking away a vote from Kerry--but you're not giving it to Bush. For simplicity's sake, let's say there are nine people in the electorate, and they split 5-4 for Kerry over Bush. If one voter switches to Bush, the split would be 5-4 in the president's favor. But if he switched to Nader instead, the split would be 4-4-1.

So, if you want an accurate slogan, it should be: A vote for Nader instead of Kerry is half a vote to keep Bush in office.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:01 AM
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7. True, good point.
I still wouldn't want to have a half vote for Bush though.
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Cat Lewis Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:04 AM
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8. No, it's not acccurate...
...because the 2000 exit polls showed that the overwhelming majority of Nader voters were Dems who crossed over.

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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:07 AM
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9. That doesn't...
follow...
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:34 AM
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10. What this means is...
...if you're thinking of voting for Nader, vote for Kerry instead.

You can't always get what you want.
You can't always get what you want.
You can't always get what you want.
But if you try sometimes, well you might find, you get what you need.

- The Rolling Stones
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:59 AM
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6. Unless your a Repuke
Then it's half a vote for Kerry (P.S. don't let them know).
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