Another VP Poll #2

[Renew Deal]

This is a followup to yesterdays...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=429737

Schakowsky's website
http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/

Here are some ideas. I am leaving out Clark and Edwards because they will win this every time. I want to work some other ideas.

[cosmokramer]

1. Why no Clark?

I know for a fact he is being considered by the Kerry campaign...

[Renew Deal]

2. I am going with the same mindset from yesterday.

Clark and Edwards win these every time. I am trying to work some other ideas.

[TomSeaver]

3. Where the heck is

Tom Vilsack and Wes Clark these two guys are serious candidates.

[Renew Deal]

4. I added Vilsack

Thanks for reminding me.

[cosmokramer]

9. O I C

[Auntie Bush]

10. How do you know?

I'd sure like to think that was true. :bounce:

[Pale Blue Dot]

5. Ed Rendell?

Yes, he's a northerner, but his strength is in his "everyman" image. That could be a good counterpoint to Kerry's semi-"elitist" image.

[Renew Deal]

6. Who is voting for Schakowsky?

and why?

[lams712]

13. I did because she's cool

Why the hell not??? It was something different. She won't get it, she's "too liberal". I just wanted to show some love for our female candidates.

[lucidmadman]

7. I voted Cleland. I always do. Two reasons...

...he puts GA into play in the GE and, if presented right, he will appeal to males between 40 and 60 years old throughout the South and Mid-West. It's a matter of someone who appeals to people that aren't necessarily like me. Or you. I base my thinking on what I've heard pollsters and Poly Sci pros say...It's a 45/45% country, everyone's fighting for that 10%. Cleland's the one that can settle it, IMO...

[Renew Deal]

8. That's a good way of thinking about it.

I think Cleland would back up Kerry's Vietnam record which they want to exploit.

[Leilani]

16. But Cleland lost his Senate seat in Ga

so how can he carry it as a VP candidate?

[lucidmadman]

19. "They" ran a really smelly campaign against him...

...I get your point and I think it's valid. But... I don't know of anyone else that could, if presented right, capture the swing voters in that crucial demographic of middle-aged males that MC could. He did lose. Can't argue with that. But, it was a really dirty race. They linked images of OBL with MC on TV ads. The whole Washington DC sniper thing was diverting people at the time...It's just my somewhat educated and considered opinion that MC would make a dynamite VP with JK. You are entirely welcome to disagree...

[hellhathnofury]

11. Write in:

Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa

-Midwest

-Help Bring Dean people back into the fold

-Expierenced

-Folksy-the opposite of patrician-Kerry

-Liberal

-Would be replaced by a Democrat.

[Renew Deal]

12. I always liked him.

I didn't include him because he didn't do well in the last poll.

[hellhathnofury]

15. If Harkin get's it by some miracle I'll hop on the bandwagon in a second.

He would be a great pick for Kerry because he would counter the insider-sold out image and would certainly help in Ohio and Missouri. Plus he's not a stiff.

[Leilani]

18. I can't stand Harkin

I think he's a smarmy pol!

[hellhathnofury]

31. Well...most are.

I still like him.

[GreenArrow]

14. none of the above

I don't personally support him, but Clark is a better choice than anyone on that list.

[FrenchieCat]

17. Of course.....

You are 1000% right!

[VOX]

20. Good folks here, but for VP material, the list is severely uninspiring...

I see no name on this roster that can bring anything significantly inspiring to the ticket.

Sorry, but that's my nickel's worth.

[Thrill]

21. Whoever is picking Bayh

Its a joke. This guy voted for the war, Bush's Tax cuts, And ABORTION. No chance he is a VP candidate.

[lojasmo]

22. Any of these people

Will kill the democratic ticket.

[Hav]

23. wtf

Where can I vote for Osama Bin Laden? Cause I really want to vote against Bush.

[Renew Deal]

24. huh?

Does not compute

[goclark]

25. Clark is an International Candidate

He has international appeal,not regional. I think it was unfair for people to label him a Southerner. He was born in Chicago, went to school in Arkansas and then lived all over the world stage.

His WORLD experience is so much broader then just to be from the South.

I wish there could be a 21st Century Vision to how a person is selected for VP. Isn't it better to have traveled all over the world, speak several languages,connected to people of all groups?

What is so special about living in one place all your life? How does that give you a perspective?

[Nashyra]

26. Surprisingly enough

On MSNBC I could not believe that the trailer for Hardball which was about the hunt for a VP they had a picture of Clark, Edwards and Gephart.

[Renew Deal]

27. kick

:kick:

[Renew Deal]

28. kick

:kick:

[AntiCoup2K4]

29. How about Kucinich?

At least there would be ONE Liberal on the ticket. Harkin would also be acceptable. No other worthless DLC shitballs though.

[JohnKleeb]

32. that would help with Ohio

If we want Ohio someone like DK would help. Harkin another pro labor midwesterner. Kerry-Kucinich would be fine with me, after Kucinich-????? that would be my dream ticket.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

30. Graham was a real attack dog when he was running.

Graham Alleges a 9/11 'Coverup'
Democratic Florida senator, running for the presidency, says intelligence failures are being kept secret, endangering Americans
by Josh Meyer


WASHINGTON — Sen. Bob Graham on Sunday accused the Bush administration of engaging in a "coverup" of intelligence failures before and after the Sept. 11 attacks to shield it from embarrassment, and said the war with Iraq has allowed Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups to become a greater threat to Americans than ever before.

Graham, a presidential candidate and former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, also accused the administration of jeopardizing the safety of Americans by blocking the release of a landmark congressional report on the government failures that preceded the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. The Florida Democrat said the White House has withheld from the public important information about the continued existence of terrorist cells in the United States — including some with ties to foreign governments that the U.S. has been afraid to go after.

"By continuing to classify that information the American people have been denied important information for their own protection, for the protection of the communities," Graham said on CBS News' 'Face the Nation.' "Local agencies have been denied information which would help them be more effective. First responders and the American people do not have the information upon which they can hold the administration and responsible agencies accountable," Graham said, adding: "I call that a coverup."

Even before announcing his candidacy for president last week, Graham had been outspoken in criticizing the Bush administration's record on counter-terrorism, saying its focus on war with Iraq has allowed Al Qaeda to regroup and Hezbollah and other terrorist networks to flourish. But Sunday's remarks appeared to be the first time that Graham has publicly accused the White House of trying to cover up such ongoing threats — and its own intelligence failures — by refusing to declassify information about them. Graham said he was basing his accusations on classified information he has received as a ranking member of the Senate intelligence committee, and as a leader of last year's joint congressional inquiry into the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0512-04.htm