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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:52 PM
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Obama: "In the world's greatest deliberative body, no one is listening."
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 11:59 PM by VolcanoJen
"It makes for an efficient process, which is much appreciated by the members, who are juggling twelve- or thirteen-hour schedules and want to get back to their offices to meet constituents or return phone calls, to a nearby hotel to cultivate donors, or to the television studio for a live interview. If you stick around, though, you may see one lone senator standing at his desk after the other have left, seeking recognition to deliver a statement on the floor. It may be an explanation of a bill he's introducing, or it may be a broader commentary on some unmet national challenge. The speaker's voice may flare with passion; his arguments -- about cuts to programs for the poor, or obstructionism on judicial appointments, or the need for energy independence -- may be soundly constructed. But the speaker will be addressing a near-empty chamber: just the presiding officer, a few staffers, the Senate reporter, and C-SPAN's unblinking eye. The speaker will finish. A blue-uniformed page will silently gather the statement for the official record. Another senator may enter as the first one departs, and she will stand at her desk, seek recognition, and deliver her statement, repeating the ritual.

In the world's greatest deliberative body, no one is listening."

- Barack Obama, "The Audacity of Hope"


It was that passage, in the very early pages of his book, that really caught me. During the first Iraq War Supplemental vote in 2003, I was in Washington, and made a trek to the Senate gallery to watch the proceedings. I was surprised to find the Senate practically empty, a few Members milling about, but one man standing in front of his desk and speaking passionately... Joe Biden. He was speaking to a camera, essentially; to his constituents, I imagine, and he was blasting the war. He made so much sense, I felt like the world should see it. Or at least his fellow Senators. And yet, he was alone in his fortitude. And it bothered me for the longest time, Joe Biden, in solitude in this celebrated chamber, talking to a wall. Why wasn't anyone listening? And, just as importantly, why didn't he seem to mind? Why was he speaking as he's never spoken before to nobody?

It really was that passage in Obama's book that sucked me in, and made me devour the entire thing in just a few evenings. Obama convinced me with that book that he was what I was looking for in a candidate.

Since so many are convinced Obama supporters are nothing if not admirable of an empty suit, or for knowing nothing of his positions, I just wanted to share what I have finally identified as my own personal moment where I think I stated to shed the anger and disappointment of the last seven years and began to look forward in earnest. I really never would have imagined myself to be in the place I am today, not after November 2004 especially.

But that's the moment I really started taking Obama seriously. And that's why, and how, he won my vote. He taught me a thing or two in that book... especially about healing.
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andyrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:59 PM
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1. A powerful post.
Thank you.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:59 PM
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2. Thank you so much for sharing.
What a moving post.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:58 AM
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14. My pleasure.
Thank you. :hug:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:02 AM
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3. how about the paucity of action to end the iraq occupation on the part of hillaryobama? nt
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:03 AM
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4. I remember that
Got me too ;)
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:03 AM
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5. I'm going to go buy the book tomorrow. Thanks for posting this. Very moving.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:05 AM
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6. I've read that book too
My daughter gave it to me for Christmas a year ago--now she's borrowed it back to read it too.

Anyone who says Obama is an empty suit has not read that book. He's got so much of what it takes to be a great leader.

I want to read his first book too. Is it any good?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:11 AM
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7. I enjoyed "Dreams From My Father" very much.
I read it after "The Audacity of Hope." He's a very lyrical writer in "Dreams" and it's a moving, much more personal, much more cultural piece. I'm sure reading it first would have just made me want to get to know him even more.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:11 AM
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8. Thanks Jen..
I know that feeling of losing the futility and knowing there could be change in our country that overrides the corporatemedia business as usual crowd.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:15 AM
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9. What's so painful to me, as far as DU is concerned....
... is that had you asked me, say, in late 2005 if I would ever be opposed to Hillary Clinton as the nominee, I'd have said you were a nutbag.

It happened, things change, events conspire to move people. I'm still surprised that I'm where I am in my political thought today. I think it's just that Obama actually filled that void of leadership and simply led me there.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:25 AM
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11. So many different routes
to Obama..I knew I didn't want hilary but had no real passion for a candidate like I did in 2004, but it all goes back to the same thing for me..someone who saw before the bombs started on Iraq that it wasn't the right thing to do.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:49 AM
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17. And I think that's really the most noble reason.
It's fascinating to talk to Obama supporters about all the different ways, and turns, they took before deciding he'd earned their vote.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:18 PM
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21. Yes, it is and I wanna
give your thread a kick 'cause I think it's valuble!:)
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:20 AM
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10. Biden's speeches made me support Biden
Is Obama the first to point out the nonsense of speeches to empty chambers?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:26 AM
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12. I only used Biden to give Obama's point a personal reference.
Biden was brilliant the day I saw him, a true orator, and I was shocked that on such a momentous day (the first Iraq Supplemental vote), nobody in that body was listening to him.

Of course Obama isn't the first to point out such nonsense. Hardly. But he's the first to use it as part of a rather overwhelming case of all that is wrong with our discourse and the way it operates today. I think the passage I quote first shows up on Page 15... it's a rather exhaustive case he makes, you know. :-) But that's where he grabbed me, because I remembered the day I saw Biden doing exactly what Obama described... speaking to nobody, brilliantly.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:59 AM
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15. gotcha, I'll have to check out the book - and dig up some Obama speeches on the floor! n/t
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:30 AM
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13. No the whole passage
Goes on to say that our government is broken, partly because Congresspeople spend too much time seeing lobbyists and having dinner with other rich people. He says that most decisions are made before they even get to the floor based on info thats provided by lobbyists, and favors between politicians. Then if I remember he goes on to propose getting rid of all lobbyists as they drown out the voice of the people, and also to require that they spend more time on the actual floor! good stuff ;)
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:59 AM
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16. cool - I think higher attendance should be required! n/t
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:29 AM
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18. Outstanding post
Very well said.

I'm still teetering, but you've made a great case for Obama here.

Thanks.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:37 AM
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19. K & R! Thanks for this.
I'm getting the audio book.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:01 AM
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20. Obama is an astute, intelligent politician and he's more than an empty suit.
Thanks for a wonderful post. Here he was in 2005 talking about the bankruptcy bill:

Floor Statement of Senator Barack Obama on S.256, the Bankruptcy Abuse and Prevention Act of 2005
Monday, February 28, 2005

Mr. President, I have come to the floor today to address this pending legislation.

This issue should force us to face a fundamental question about who we are as a country, how we progress as a society, and where our values lie as a people:

How do we treat our fellow Americans who have fallen on hard times, and what is our responsibility to cushion those falls when they occur?

Proponents claim this bill is designed to curb the worst abuses of our bankruptcy system. That's a worthy goal, and we can all agree that bankruptcy was never meant to serve as a Get Out of Jail Free Card, for use when you've foolishly gambled away all your savings and don't feel like taking responsibility for your actions. Business owners and creditors deserve the money they're owed, and anyone who tries to scam the system just because they can should be stopped and forced to pay their debt.

But to accomplish that, this bill would take us from a system where judges weed out the abusers from the honest to a system where all the honest are presumed to be abusers. Where declaring Chapter 7 bankruptcy is made prohibitively expensive for people who already have suffered financial devastation. With this bill, it doesn't matter if you ran up your debt on a trip to Vegas or a trip to the Emergency Room, you're still treated the same under the law and you still face the possibility that you'll never get the chance to start over.

Now, it would be one thing if most people were abusing the system and falling into bankruptcy because they were irresponsible with their finances. But we know that's not the case. We know that most people fall into bankruptcy as a result of bad luck. And we know that a recent Harvard study showed that nearly half of all bankruptcies occur because of an illness that ends up sticking families with medical bills they just can't keep up with.

Take the case of Suzanne Gibbons. A few years back, Suzanne had a good job as a nurse and a home on Chicago's Northwest Side. Then she suffered a stroke that left her hospitalized for five-days. And even though she had health insurance through her job, it only covered $4,000 of her $53,000 hospital bill.

Because of her illness, she was soon forced to leave her full-time nursing job and take a temp job that paid less and didn't offer health insurance. Then the collection agencies started coming after her for hospital bills that she just couldn't keep up with. She lost her retirement savings, she lost her house, and eventually, she was forced to declare bankruptcy.

If this bill passes as written, Suzanne would be treated by the law the same as any scam artist who cheats the system. The decision about whether or not she can file for Chapter 7 bankruptcy would never take into account the fact that she fell into financial despair because of her illness. With all that debt, she would have had to hire a lawyer and pay hundreds of dollars more in increased paperwork. And after all that, she still may have been told that she was ineligible for Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

And so, as much as we'd like to believe that the face of this bankruptcy crisis is credit card addicts who spend their way into debt, the truth is that it's the face of people like Suzanne Gibbons. It's the face of middle-class America.
Over the last thirty years bankruptcies have gone up 400% -- and we've had more than 2,100 in Illinois just last year. We also know what else has gone up: the cost of child care and the cost of college, the cost home ownership and the cost of health care - which is now at a record high. People are working harder and longer for less, and they're falling further and further behind.

And we're not talking about the poor or even just the working poor here. As bankruptcy professor Elizabeth Warren has noted, these are middle-class families with two parents who both work at good-paying jobs that put a roof over their heads. They're saving every extra penny they have so that their children can someday do better than they did. But with just one illness, emergency, or divorce, those dreams can be wiped out. This bill does a great job helping the credit card industry recover the profits they're losing, but what are we doing to help middle-class families recover the dreams they're losing?

This bill does a great job protecting credit card companies from the few bad apples who try to escape their debt, but what does it do to protect the American public from the credit card companies who try to take advantage of them?


Mr. President, the bankruptcy crisis this bill should address is not just the one facing credit card companies who are enjoying record profits. We should be addressing middle-class families who are dealing with record hardships.

As Senator Dodd, Senator Feinstein, and others have pointed out, this bill also fails to deal with the aggressive marketing practices and hidden fees credit card companies have used to raise their profits and our debt. Charging a penalty to consumers who make a late payment on a completely unrelated credit card is just one example of these tactics. We need to end these practices so that we're making life easier not just for the credit card companies, but for honest, hardworking middle-class families.

And if we're going to crack down on bankruptcy abuse, we should make it clear that we intend to hold the wealthy and the powerful accountable too. As it is now, this bill makes it easier for a company like Enron who just bilked their employees out of their life savings to declare bankruptcy than for the employees themselves. In my own state, we even had a mining company by the name of Horizon declare bankruptcy and then refuse to pay its employees the health benefits it owed them.

The Mine Workers involved had provided a total of 100,000 years of service and dedication and sacrifice to this company. They spent their lives working hard. They did their part. But Horizon didn't do its part, and it was allowed to hide behind bankruptcy laws to leave these workers without the care they had earned.

This is wrong. It's wrong that this bill would make it harder for these unemployed workers to declare bankruptcy, while doing nothing to prevent the bankrupt company that put them there from shirking its responsibility entirely.

What kind of a message does it send when we tell hardworking, middle-class Americans, "You have to be more responsible with your finances, but the corporations you work for can be as irresponsible as they want with theirs"?

(more...)

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/050228-floor_statement/

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