Roger Stone, GOP Strategist, with his latest: C.itizens U.nited N.ot T.imid

[Emit]

Please, someone tell me this is a joke. If it is not, this is really low --

Hillary Clinton Education By Citizens United Not Timid
Posted on January 27, 2008 by wasteofmyoxygen

Roger Stone, GOP Strategist, has pissed off the liberals with his latest 527 organization… The CUNT is simply using a t-shirt with their groups name as a campaign against Hillary… Well I guess Hillary’s supporters are reading into what it means… Or then again maybe they are seeing the truth…

“Legendary” GOP Strategist Launches Hillary Namecalling Effort
By Paul Kiel - January 23, 2008, 3:51PM
A couple of days ago, a group called Citizens United Not Timid filed papers with the IRS as a “527″ organization. Then we saw that Roger Stone had signed on as the group’s “assistant treasurer.” Uh oh.

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Presumably Stone learned this gimmick from working on Nixon’s 1972 Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREEP).

Yes, that’s it. That’s the stroke of genius from the man whom Tucker Carlson insists on calling “legendary Republican strategist Roger Stone” every time he appears on his show (twice this month). The Standard explains that Stone is “trying to tap into deep-seated sentiments about Clinton that pundits and rival candidates can’t articulate.”

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Labash writes that Stone wants Democrats to know that “if Hillary is the nominee, a hard 527 rain is going to fall.” And already the anti-Hillary groups are getting themselves crossed up. No sooner had Stone filed his organization’s papers than Citizens United, a group headed by David Bossie that’s been attacking the Clintons for nearly twenty years and recently released Hillary: The Movie, sent a cease and desist letter to Stone, alleging infringement.

http://wasteofmyoxygen.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/hillary-clinton-education-by-citizens-united-not-timid/


From The Weekly Standard:

Making Political Trouble
Roger Stone shows how it's done--again.
by Matt Labash
01/28/2008, Volume 013, Issue 19

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The text underneath it reads "Citizens United Not Timid, a 527 Organization To Educate The American Public About What Hillary Clinton Really Is." The artwork and text are, it turns out, the entirety of the "education." Stone says the website will feature an attractive model in the organization's T-shirt, which can be yours for a "donation" of $25 or more. And it will also feature a rolling tally of people who agree with the statement that's not quite stated, something like "the population billboard in Times Square that's constantly increasing because some baby is born in Botswana."

In addition to this website being blast-emailed to hundreds of thousands of addresses that Stone and West have accumulated over the years (working off over 170 different email lists of everyone from opinion-makers to political activists to industry associations), Stone is counting on T-shirt sales to further serve as "billboard education." He figures the whole thing will end up taking on a viral nature, thanks to the yuks factor.

"The more people go to the site, the more people buy the T-shirts," Stone explains to the troops. "The more people buy the T-shirts, the more people wear the T-shirts. The more people wear the T-shirts, the more people are educated. Consequently, our mission has been achieved." Though neither the word itself nor even the acronym is ever mentioned, "it's one-word education. That's our mission. No issues. No policy groups. No position papers. This is a simple committee with an unfortunate acronym. Addendums, deletions? Everybody's down?"

I ask Stone if he's a little worried about people confusing his "organization" with Citizens United, the Floyd-Brown founded anti-Clinton group. "We have no connection. Those guys are irresponsible," he says with a smile. ~snip~

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=14617&R=138F92C658

[no name no slogan]

1. Dear Roger: C U Next Tuesday

nt

[MADem]

2. I'm....stunned. I never saw such craven indecency. nt

[Emit]

It's repulsive, MADem

I felt dirty just posting it, and almost didn't because at first I thought it was some sick joke; and second, I thought others might kill the messenger -- but, we need to be aware of what is going on, IMHO. I came across this scum when I was researching some things for this thread.

I see some dirty tricks are in store for the GE.

[MADem]

11. Dan Rather got screwed by this guy, too. I'm sure he's angered and appalled at these tactics as

well.

[smalll]

38. I'm stunned by the stupidity of it.

The reaction against this will help Hillary far more than it will hurt her. Backfire City!

[Danger Mouse]

3. Roger Stone is an utter dirtbag.

This is a disgusting and pathetic attack on Hillary.

[Emit]

14. He is. It's ugly, and we can expect more

Here's more from the second link:

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Simultaneously, he wants to remind Democrats, currently chin-tugging over niceties like electability and who makes the better change-agent, that if Hillary is the nominee, a hard 527 rain is going to fall. There is only one candidate in this election who can universally mobilize conservatives, and as evident from the variety of primary victors, none of them is a Republican. It's Hillary Clinton. If you thought the late '90s were ugly, just wait.

Is his Citizens United Not Timid campaign tasteless, outrageous, and completely over the line? Absolutely, he admits, and he's counting on people thinking so. "If you're not controversial, you'll never break through the din of all the commentary," he says. If people don't like his anti-Hillary 527, they can start their own. In fact, West says people already have: "Right now, there are guys like us preparing to do the same thing all over the country."

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=14617&R=138F92C658

[Danger Mouse]

56. The scumbag is basically promising to step up his attacks.

Good. Bring it on, as Bush would say...if they think this kind of disgusting shit will help them, let them do it, and see how far it gets them.

[Snarkoleptic]

4. And when can we expect him to be a guest on Hush Limpballs show?

[robbedvoter]

5. In 2004, he was paying Sharpton in SC to keep black voters away from Clark

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[cali]

15. what moronic, disgusting shit are you spewing now?

It's beyond idiotic to suggest that Obama was paid by repugs to be a spoiler.

Vile is all you know and that post is your worst yet.

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[Danger Mouse]

57. I see the attacks on Obama are reaching new heights in slime?

:puke:

[Emit]

60. I agree, cali

"It's beyond idiotic to suggest that Obama was paid by repugs to be a spoiler..."

I'm stunned to find that anyone, and a long-time DUer no less, would attempt to equate Obama with this sleaze Stone -- the accusations peppered throughout this thread are just nuts -- delusional rantings.

[mitchum]

6. Is he still taking out ads looking for guys to fuck his wife?

[TwilightGardener]

7. If she's the nominee, nasty shit like this will help her--sympathy vote.

[OzarkDem]

12. No, its a divisive tactic

Dividing Dem voters against each other. Looks like Obama is following Stone's script.

[TwilightGardener]

16. Huh? WTF does this have to do with Obama?

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[TwilightGardener]

24. I glanced through the whole thing, and I didn't see any reference to Obama.

You're really fucking delusional if you see a connection. Get some fucking help.

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[mrreowwr_kittty]

43. And we know that all African American candidates are the same, right?

So if a sleazebucket worked with one, he worked with them all.

Nice. I'm alerting on you.

[cali]

47. I'd love to see a

pizza delivery. Her comments in this thread are vile.

[cali]

Nothing of course. That poster is simply

a smear artist spreading lies and hate.

[cali]

19. no, that's YOU

being Stone like about Obama.

[OzarkDem]

21. Read up

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0405,barrett,50745,1.html

[cali]

25. I can post a dozen threads about the Clintons and how they're

using dirty tactics and "brass knuckle" style politics. Big fucking deal. You're suggesting that Stone is allied with Obama and you've suggested that Obama was put up by repukes to drain votes from Hillary.

That's fucked up.

[OzarkDem]

29. I'm an Edwards supporter

as such I don't support either of the candidates still in the race.

[cali]

34. So the fuck what?

You're still smearing and sliming is a contemptible way.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

51. Worse than that, it's based on a story about another politician who happens to be black.

From 4 years ago. The poster must be learning from the master, Bill Clinton. There's no limit on how far in the past you are allowed to go to compare Obama to another black candidate.

[cali]

53. it's disgusting

that someone is allowed to post this kind of race baiting shit here.

[Emit]

61. There's nothing in that story that is remotely connected to the topic of this OP. n/t

[Danger Mouse]

55. Bullshit. Obama has NOTHING to do with this kind of garbage..

and trying to link them is not only a disgusting and blatant LIE, but it's doing a disservice to the Dems.

[in_cog_ni_to]

8. I'm shocked! The repuke are actually planning to attack Hillary?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: They've been doing that for years! David Bossie? Now that's a blast from the past....The Arkansas Project. He's a loser, will always be a loser.

Don't they ever get tired of hating?

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[cali]

18. oh

GFY.

You're no better than Stone. In fact, you're shit slime in this thread demonstrates that you're kin.

[OzarkDem]

22. They're working off the same script

Obama can clear this up if he wants to by coming out publicly and condemning Stone's organization and tactics. He can also promise to stop using divisive racial tactics in his own campaign.

Let's see if he does.

[cali]

27. hey, genius. It isn't Obama who's been condemned by

virtually everyone on the left for using divisive racial tactics. It's the Clintons. And why the fuck should he have to say anything about Stone? He has nothing to clear up. He is not using the same tactics.

You are beneath contempt- just like Stone.

[OzarkDem]

30. Got a link?

[cali]

33. A link for what?

a link for the left hitting the Clintons on using divisisive tactics and trying to portray Obama as too black? Read Herbert, Rich, MJ Chait, etc. Google them yourself. And Leahy and Kennedy and Emanuel all told Bill to back off, as did Clyburn and others. It's been written about ad nauseum here.

[Danger Mouse]

54. Trying to compare this to obama or link it to him is beyond the pale.

'Working off the same script'? :puke:

[OzarkDem]

13. Kick

[cali]

17. Stone is nothing but slime

truly a scumbucket. I hope this backfires on him in a big spectacular way.

[VolcanoJen]

23. Roger Stone, notorious swinger and prank caller of senior citizens

You stay classy, Roger!

[Emit]

26. Egads! My eyes!

Is that Stone?

[VolcanoJen]

31. Yeppers. No fat people or smokers!

He and his wife used to advertise in swinger magazines.

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All about Roger:

http://www.nndb.com/people/844/000047703/

Sorry to upset everyone's stomach, but it's always good to know what kind of jerko we're dealing with. :-)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. That's disgusting.

I'm not even supporting Hillary in the primaries, but this is one of the most repulsive things I've seen yet. It's a repulsive stew of swiftboating tactics and grotesque sexism; nasty even by Republican standards.

And, by the way, unlike some others on this thread, as a disappointed Edwards supporter I am absolutely certain Obama's campaign didn't have a damn thing to do with it, and it's outrageous to suggest they did. This is purely Republican.

[OzarkDem]

32. Roger Stone's history w/ AA Dem candidates

He did something similar with Al Sharpton, using the race issue to divide Dems in 2004.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0405,barrett,50745,1.html

And now we have the same divisive tactics resurfacing with a vengeance this year. Very coincidental.

[cali]

36. Trying to llink Stone with Obama is beyond disgusting

as I said:

YOU are beneath contempt.

[OzarkDem]

39. Your opinion

I had been intending to do some research to see where Stone would crop up in this race. Now that we know, it will be interesting to do more research and watch his activities very carefully.

[cali]

44. No. it's not merely my opinion.

You don't have even a scrap of evidence. You are merely sliming and smearing in the ugliest of ways. You're a disgrace to your candidate. I'm sure he'd tell you in no uncertain terms what to do with yourself. I can't imagine that JE wants your kind supporting him.

[OzarkDem]

46. More Cali projection

save it for someone who believes it. Your rants ant ad hominem attacks against those you disagree with are so, tiresome and predictable.

[cali]

49. ad hominems? What the fuck do you think your moronic

attacks on Obama are? Accusing of him of working with Stone. You deserve harsher words than I can mete out. Your obsession about race in this thread is way more than creepy.

[Danger Mouse]

58. No. You really are a scumbag.

I'm a John Edwards supporter, and as far as I'm concerned, you're a disgrace to John and what he stands for.
Cram your disgusting dirty smears with walnuts.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

40. Do you have the slightest shred of evidence that Obama's campaign is associated

with this Stone asswad? If you don't, why are you shitting in Obama's cornflakes? You aren't reflecting well on John Edwards by making unfounded claims like this.

[cali]

41. one can expect

nothing but this kind of vile shit from certain people.

[OzarkDem]

42. Let's see if Obama denounces it

and lets keep watching.

And see if Obama keeps using the same divisive tactics to split voters with racial issues.

[cali]

45. why the fuck should he???

Why is it his responsibilty to do so? There are dozens of ugly bullshit rumors and crap against Obama. I certainly don't associate Hillary with them or expect her to denounce them.

Oh, and STFU.

[VolcanoJen]

48. Desperate.

Really, Ozark. Even for you, you're reaching.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

50. Who's using racially-divisive rhetoric this time?

You're pulling this out of your ass, and for no reason that I can imagine. Whether or not Obama denounces this proves nothing at all. Furthermore, there's all kind of nasty Republican crap going around; some of it is better ignored than even mentioned. And in any event, you still haven't offered anything even hinting at actual evidence that Obama's campaign has anything to do with Stone.

I'd also add that John Edwards ran a consistently honorable campaign, and he never trashed either of the other candidates. It's disheartening to see another supporter of this decent, fair-minded man flinging crap like this. John would be disgusted, and so am I.

Come to think of it, how will you feel if Edwards endorses Obama, as most of the pundits believe he will do?

[OmahaBlueDog]

59. Stone's an old GOP trickster from waay back

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone

One of the things that always amuses me is how the Republicans are the party of morality and family values, yet the party is loaded with folks like this.

I seriously doubt anyone in Obama's campaign had a damn thing to do with this, but he'd love to make some of us think he did, just so he can stir some stuff up on our side.

I know a lot of people who will think this is absolutely hilarious, but I think there are a lot of Republicans who see crap like this and know it's part of what is giving their partu an increasingly bad name.

[Emit]

62. '...Republicans are the party of morality and family values...'

I agree -- it is such an odd juxtaposition -- say one thing, do another.