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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:14 PM
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Hillary Clinton is stronger than Obama on terrorism
Obama is going to be turned into a feminine lightweight on national security just like war hero Kerry was.

Clinton has foreign policy and national security chops that Obama doesn't have and it's going to be a HUGE issue if McCain is the GOP nominee. Clinton's IWR vote and refusal to use words like "apologize" and "regret" and "mistake" will help her defeat McCain.

She neutralizes McCain on national security and blows him away on all economic and other domestic issues.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:15 PM
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1. What is Obama's position on grilled cheese sandwiches?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:21 PM
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9. I'm sure its the bad one. lol.
whatever that is. ;)
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:25 PM
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16. I like them with tomato soup, personally.
I dip. Do you dip?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:29 PM
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23. I dip in Hunts Ketchup, liberally. :)
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:31 PM
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24. Hunts?!?! Are you insane?
I don't feel comfortable talking to you any longer.

Hunts.... Fer cryin' out loud.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:32 PM
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25. It was my parents fault I think, lol. nt
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:58 PM
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52. Blasphemy! Hunts is not Ketchup - it's Catsup.
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 08:58 PM by Kittycat
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:13 PM
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57. But my bottle says Ketchup, really it does
:cry:
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:57 PM
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50. Mm yes, Tomato Soup or Heinz Ketchup.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:42 PM
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33. Something vague with a feel-good mantra, no doubt. nt
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:15 PM
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2. Just what are her chops exactly?
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:16 PM
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3. Fuck this "war on terra" fairy tale.
The only terrorists who have ever done anything to this country are the ones who were born here. If you still believe otherwise, you're a goddamned moron.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:20 PM
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8. your eloquence is so...enlightening nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:16 PM
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4. Can you name the top lawmaker in DC on the tracking of terror networks and their funding?
Terrorism has been an issue for near 30 years so you must have some idea who stands out in DC on that issue - and even LED on it long before 9-11 directed the attention of the nation.

So - who would that be?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:24 PM
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12. (waves hand) Ohh! Ohhh!
Pick me!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:37 PM
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30. Please provide an answer - the OP will not or likely CAN NOT answer.
.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:45 PM
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37. John Kerry. Some lightweight, huh?
Bush may have convinced some that he was a lightweight, but that doesn't make him one. Just before 9/11, he was giving speeches about terrorism, while Bush was talking about SDI, flashing back to Reagan.

His book "A New War" practically predicts 9/11, 4 years early.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:50 PM
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43. Yes - The New War, written before there was an even an Al Qaeda fully organized.
Looks to me like the poster knows SQUAT about the real terror issue. Or about the last 30 years of this nation's actual history.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:24 PM
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13. Who is it?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:36 PM
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29. Unless I am mistaken, she's referring to Kerry
and I think the point is to show that even though Bush's campaign convinced half the country that Kerry was a lightweight, he was anything but.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:02 PM
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54. Got it
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:16 PM
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5. I NEVER get tired reading your posts
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 08:17 PM by matcom
all 437 of them a day!

on edit: I REALLY appreciate the fact you don't clutter them up with LINKS and other useless crap!

THANK YOU!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:22 PM
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10. I get tired of the million anti Hillary posts, but I only
whine about it when I see one like yours.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:24 PM
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14. how about you find ONE anti-Hillary post I have made
just one.

c'mon.

use the search feature. it is your friend.

you can do it.

i have no endorsed ANYONE in this forum.

not a one.

go ahead though. PLEASE find it!

the Ring Frodo, the Ring!

:rofl:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:28 PM
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20. Did you make a joke unrelated to my comment?
Why yes, you did.

I did not accuse you of such. I merely point out that you seem to have a narrow view that excludes anti Hillary posts. How about you show me one post where you complained about excessive attacks against HRC? I won't hold my breath just to be safe.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:35 PM
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28. no, I attack posters here who start 100+ threads a day
that are nothing more than personal opinion (and often uninformed opinion) with no facts, links, etc... obviously trying to "sway" a bunch of people on an internet web site (which HAS to be the biggest wast of one's time *I* can think of).

i frankly don't give a rat's ass who they support.

can't you see after all my years here that I am mocking you (or those posters referenced above)?

hell, i come here nightly to do so.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:37 PM
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31. Glad we can entertain you with our opinions
You are so far above the rest of us. :puke: lol.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:41 PM
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32. oh you certainly "entertain" me
:rofl:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:47 PM
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40. Good
Please post more obnoxious shit so I know you are being entertained. You never can tell what draws folks here unless they tell you. lol.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:51 PM
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44. give it up dude
i'm mocking you

and winning.

because you keep replying.

on second thought. this is kinda fun.

keep replying.

i'll keep mocking.

it is the Internet's way.

:rofl:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:54 PM
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46. The superior jokester mocker with no life
says he got the best of it. Wow, that is special. I am very upset now. lol.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:16 PM
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6. Link? Proof? Got anything but yet ANOTHER unsubstantiated opinion?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:29 PM
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22. Presented as fact
My favorites are the prophesies. "He will fade away and die... the Oracle has spoken"
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:18 PM
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7. Whose national security.
About time Israel stood on it's own two feet!
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:23 PM
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11. Proud2BAmurkin could convince himself of anything
That I am sure of.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:25 PM
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15. he is all up in his own disease!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:33 PM
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27. All Three.
National and International.
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Tom Strong Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:26 PM
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17. Hillary is stronger than that fool on EVERYTHING. n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:52 PM
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45. except
she's not stronger when it comes to momentum in this race.
she's not stronger when it comes to judgment about going to war
she's not stronger re transparency in gov't

and anyone dim enough to label someone who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard law, is clearly someone who's opinions are nothing but a lame joke.
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Tom Strong Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:16 PM
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59. He's gonna lose, cali. Prepare yourself emotionally for it. n/t
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:26 PM
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18. I think because Hillary was an active member
of an Administration for 8 years and saw it up close, it does innoculate her a little on the NS issue. I also would agree that she is careful not to step into traps other dems do that can be used against her in that area. She seems to have credibility with the other party on the issue of NS.

Obama is more of an empty page here. I think that much is true.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:27 PM
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19. Richard Clarke has been one of Obama's advisors on national security
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 08:30 PM by karynnj
He also has Kerry, Gary Hart (Hart/Rudman, anyone?) and Lake. Clarke said in August 2007, that Obama asked excellent questions, was a very quick study and "got it".

Contrary to your idiotic comment, Kerry was widely declared to have been right on his view of how to deal with non-state terrorism. Even people like George Will admitted in 2006 that "Kerry was right". In 2004, people were not able to make the jump to Kerry's hopeful vision of a world where terrorism was not an ever present threat - and the constant - fake - terror code raising didn't help.

Read his University of Pennsylvania speech - that was the basis of Will saying he was right. You might also remember a little thing called BCCI. Kerry was instrumental in getting the information that was used to close OBL's bank. He did this with the entire establishment against him. He briefed both Ghwb and Clinton and wrote a list of 20 things that needed more investigation - that he couldn't do without a committee or subpoena power. Number one dealt with A. Q. Khan's BCCI funded Pakistani bomb.

HRC was on the Armed Services committee for 7 years - but what does that really say about her credentials?
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:29 PM
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21. *** CAUGHT RED HANDED - YOU GIVE YOURSELF AWAY ***
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 08:30 PM by lamprey
That is a quote - from Ann Coulter on Hannity!

Proud2BATroll
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:55 PM
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48. No doubt in my mind that you are correct.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:56 PM
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49. Really? Not our P2BAT?
Quoting Coulter now? LOL!
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elixir2 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:32 PM
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26. Hey, P2BAm, I have a question for you ....
Some folks have been posting information about WJCs and the unraveling of the Glass-Steagall Act and it's ultimate effect on our current economic mess. What are your thoughts?
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:57 PM
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51. *crickets*
Or you may get an ode to free enterprise. I would love to hear a response if it can muster one.
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elixir2 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:14 PM
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58. I'm not baiting, I'm really curious. I'm a HRC supporter who's a little confused.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:43 PM
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34. "feminine lightweight"...wow, sexism alive and well....nt
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:43 PM
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35. Your point is well taken.
This is one of the reasons I am still undecided.
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:44 PM
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36. Yeah Right!
Like the Iraq war really did make us much safer didn't it.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:46 PM
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38. FEAR
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:46 PM
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39. Hillary is so strong she'll vote to attack countries that have nothing to do with Al Qaida
Huzzah!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:47 PM
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41. "feminine lightweight". Dude, you really need to think before you post such sexist crap.
The Hillary campaign needs to keep you on a shorter rope.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:49 PM
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42. Sounds like a hygiene product
For those "light days"
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:01 PM
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53. The real deal is this though...
This poster makes all democrats look bad with the tripe that it spews. Blatant attacks on Obama with every thread, and illogical conclusions that disparage the intellect of true Hillary supporters.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:06 PM
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55. Yes he does.
And so do the "Hillary Supporters" who jump into
his threads to chime in.

Really, I know people who want Hillary for President
who would NEVER act this way.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:54 PM
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47. Both Democratic candidates are strong on home security
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:06 PM
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56. You mean, she's a PNAC tool.
I suspected that was the basis of your enthusiasm.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:27 PM
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60. And...I wonder how Obama's Church (Rev Wright) and Romney's Religion
will be played out when the REAL MSM games begin...hum?

Subject: Barack Obama’s endorsement and promotion of racism and anti-Semitism

http://www.nationalactionnetwork.net/html/press_releases.html

Quotes from Presidential Candidates that attended National Action Network’s 9th Annual Convention:

Senator Barack Obama (Ill): “Reverend Sharpton is a voice for the voiceless, and a voice for the dispossessed. What National Action Network has done is so important to change America, and it must be changed from the bottom up.”

There are also numerous pictures at this Web site of Barack Obama posing arm in arm with Al Sharpton. This ABC News blog reports that Obama made yet another public appearance with Al Sharpton in November: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/11/obama-soul-food.html. (more…)



Obama Pastor: 9/11 Wake Up Call For Whites
The following is from a pdf file of sermon from Barack Hussein Obama’s "spiritual mentor" as published in October 2003 issue of the Trinity United Church of Christ’s publication, "The Trumpet." (Published by the Reverend’s daughter.)

The sermon is really a wide ranging diatribe which includes, among other things, calls for US divestiture in Israel. But even amidst the Reverend’s many crackpot and racist statements, this one jumped out:



Maybe I Missed Something!

A Message From our PASTOR, Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., Senior Pastor

In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just “disappeared” as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns.

Again, Reverent Wright is the man that Mr. Obama claims got him interested in politics. He speaks of him as his political father and even his surrogate father.

From the Chicago Tribune:

Pastor inspires Obama’s ‘audacity’


JUST SAYIN...THIS is a bit of waht the MSM has NOT put out YET! AND DON'T F*cking kind yourself...or blame me!
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