Did Barack Obama vote against the Iraq War?

[mtnsnake]

It seems there's still some confusion about this.

[1corona4u]

1. LOL....

[msongs]

2. but he does vote to keep it going nt

[Cant trust em]

3. That is partially true

he votes to keep it going for the time being and to begin withdrawals to end it. Has there ever been a vote for a straight "Get out of Iraq right now"?

[mtnsnake]

4. No partial about it. The truth is that both of our candidates continue to vote yes to enable the war

[MercutioATC]

20. True...yet only one voted to start it.

[David Zephyr]

5. He did more than vote against it. He spoke up against it WHILE he was running for the Senate.

That would be when making war with Iraq was sooo popular with a lot of Americans that Hillary Clinton voted for the war because she feared looking unpatriotic.

Let there be no confusion about that.

[mtnsnake]

6. Did he vote against the war? Yes or No

[Cant trust em]

7. It's too bad the world isn't as simple as you'd make it out to be

Things would be a lot easier.

[mtnsnake]

14. That has nothing to do with this. There are people on DU who still don't know the right answer

so I think it's time to clear up any confusion. That's the only point of this poll.

[Cant trust em]

40. Is that really the only point of this poll?

Here's what you responded to me in a separate response to a post on this thread.

"No partial about it. The truth is that both of our candidates continue to vote yes to enable the war"

Your question doesn't really address some of the reasoning behind a vote. If you don't want to see those other reasons then your question is overly simplified.

I'm a little bit drunk right now so these thoughts might be a tad incoherent. You should be impressed by my lack of typos.

[Qutzupalotl]

8. No, but what he did was better than voting for the invasion.

[mahina]

9. Lolo,

he wasn't in the US Senate yet. Rovian tactic.

[jlake]

11. Yet some believe he voted against it. Very odd.

[Tom Strong]

26. Yeah, looks like BO's got the Crack Smokers' Vote all locked up. lol n/t

[mtnsnake]

22. But it's alright with you if people run around claiming he voted aganst it?

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[matcom]

25. congratulations

you have succeeded

[mtnsnake]

29. succeeded in what?

Might as well clue me in, matcom, since I'm an idiot

[Tom Strong]

21. Aw, you're just saying that because you got so totally OWNED! lol n/t

[matcom]

23. i'm all up in your disease

:rofl:

[CyberPieHole]

32. Pot. Kettle. Black.

[Tom Strong]

12. "I don't know how I would have voted." -- BO, circa 2004 n/t

[Blue-Jay]

13. There's no confusion about this.

He wasn't in a position to vote against IWR. You knew that.

He spoke out against IWR when it wasn't politically prudent to do so. You knew that too.

So.... is your post an actual question or an ignorant opportunity to encourage snarky replies?

[Tom Strong]

16. "My position on Iraq is no different than President Bush's." BO, circa 2004 n/t

[Blue-Jay]

24. Cute.

Now post me some other quotes from Obama regarding the Iraq debacle.

[Tom Strong]

27. Shit, man, BO was backpeddlin' on the Iraq War quickern' Lance Armstrong about to go off a cliff.

The man's a coward and a phoney.

[Blue-Jay]

28. Nice attempt at a clever homily.

Attempt. You'll get the hang of it one day.

You can either address my original post directly or get stuffed. Your choice, n00b.

[karynnj]

31. Cherry picked line from a paragraph

He said that of the goal - everyone SAID their goal was a stable Iraq. He then spoke of what he thought had to be done - it started with extensive diplomacy - and sounded a lot like Kerry. It had little in common with what Bush did.

Clinton was using the RW distortion tool used in 2004 - and it is as despicable in his hands as in theirs.

[David Zephyr]

15. Hillary Clinton voted to give George W. Bush authority to invade Iraq. That's the facts.

And you, apparently, are very proud of that.

1,000,000 Iraqis now dead because of that vote.

[mtnsnake]

17. I'm not proud of her vote,so instead of putting your feeble words into my mouth, answer the question

I've expressed my dissatisfaction with anyone who did not vote against the war, and that includes Hillary. I've also expressed my dissatisfaction with both Hillary and Obama voting YES to fund the war everytime the vote comes up, so think twice before you make wild claims about me that aren't true.

[David Zephyr]

30. I gave you my answer above. If it doesn't fit your propagandist ploy, then that can't be remedied.

I'm happy to know that you weren't happy with many of our Democrats who foolishly trusted George Bush with the authority to wage a military invasion against a nation that had done us no harm.

I don't know why it is that the Clintons need to drag down others to the level they are when they made mistakes.

As an example, Maureen Dowd recently pointed out that during the Lewinsky affair, the Clintons' lawyers actually submitted legal briefs documenting Alexander Hamilton's sexual affairs in order to lower the bar, lower the standards so as to excuse themselves.

That's shabby.

She made a terrible mistake. John Kerry, John Edwards, Dianne Feinstein and many other good Democrats had the grace and humility to admit they made a mistake. Hillary just can't or won't and it is graceless.

That would be bad enough, but to then to try to diminish the luster of the courageous step taken by Barack Obama -- who was running for a statewide office in Illinois when the idea of going to war was still very popular -- is very Clintonian.

[mtnsnake]

35. There is nothing propagandist about it and there is no ploy. It is just what it is

...a poll to stop any of the confusion that's going on in this forum with some people claiming that Barack voted against the war. With all due respect, I think you're just upset because you're interpreting this as me taking a swipe at Obama, when I am not. I am clearing up a local misconception, albeit not a common one, about Barack and any Iraq War votes. I will admit that I'm doing it more for Hillary's welfare than Barack's, but only for sake of fairness, and I am not taking any swipes at him with this poll.

[David Zephyr]

36. I like you.

You are an honest one. I like that. We may not agree, but you are honest. :thumbsup:

[mtnsnake]

37. and

If I didn't have the respect for you that I do, I wouldn't have bothered taking the time trying to explain myself more clearly. Thank you, what you said means a lot when it comes from someone like you who I, along with so many others on this forum, respect. :thumbsup:

[Tom Strong]

18. And BO adopted Bush's position retroactively. That's a fact too. n/t

[CyberPieHole]

33. Obama has voted to fund that war...so there is plenty of blame and blood to go around...

Edwards voted for the IWR as well, so he has the blood of the very same number of people.

[MethuenProgressive]

34. Barack's had more positions on Iraq than a day-glo zodiac sex poster

Dennis Kucinich really "was against the war from the start."
Barack, you're no Dennis Kucinich.

[Little Star]

39. I love that line: Barack, you're no Dennis Kucinich

[ErnestoG]

38. Phoney thread.

As usual from the Hillarites.