WOW. Rachel Maddow rips Hillary's explanation on Iraq...said she cried when Hillary voted for War.

[TeamJordan23]

Quite astonishing coming from Hillary's favorite supporter.

[1corona4u]

1. She always rips Hillary...nothing new....

[Thrill]

5. Always rips Clinton? Are you kidding?

She is always taking up for Hillary

[1corona4u]

15. Where you been?

She hasn't had anything nce to say about Hillary in a long time.

[Thrill]

17. I can't tell

She played up the emotional episode in NH.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. I've never had the impression Maddow was a Hillary supporter.

She always seemed to me to be pretty neutral, maybe leaning a little towards Edwards.

[DURHAM D]

18. I think she was originally a Dennis supporter. n/t

[journalist3072]

3. And the sky is blue...and the grass is green. In other words, nothing new here...Yawn..

[bidenista]

4. how predictable

[Shakespeare]

13. Explain, please, what problem you have with Maddow's statements.

I don't know how long you've been at DU, but ALL OF US knew at the time what that vote was for, and we were ALL devastated at the vote. Maddow was spot-on with her analysis.

[1corona4u]

21. The truth is....

the only people who lament that vote repeatedly, are political junkies. The average person on the street doen't even think about it. They think about the war, but I don't think they connect it the way political junkies do.

I stopped thinking about it a long time ago. It's over. Nothing will change it. Bush was going in with or without congress, people seem to forget that...and Hillary wasn't alone, the vote was 99-1.

[Shakespeare]

25. I don't stop thinking about it, and I don't think anyone should.

I know exactly who all voted for it. Only one candidate had the courage to admit the vote was WRONG.

History repeats when we do not learn from it....

[1corona4u]

27. That's not true....

Joe Biden apologozed for it.... we can learn from history too. If you haven't read it, I would encourage you to do so;

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html

[Shakespeare]

29. I wasn't aware Biden had apologized.

So that makes 2.

And I'm fully aware of the text of that resolution.

[Samantha]

23. Yes, that's what I have been saying all night

I guess we have to recognize there are a lot of new kids on the block here. They did not participate in those debates. But you are correct, most people here were totally OUTRAGED at that vote, and everyone knew he wanted to wage a war.

[DURHAM D]

24. A little selective/faulty memory?

You joined DU a year after the resolution was passed and eight months after the Iraq War started.

A lot of people seem to have reconstructed personal histories around the IWR vote and the actual start of the war several months later.

[Shakespeare]

26. No, I joined DU right after it started up in 2001.

My original nick was Not_over_it. Look it up if you want to.

Sorry to rob you of your snark, but I stand (quite legitimately) by my comments.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

6. I felt the same way and knew what Rachel knew back then, and cried too. Clinton is

my Senator and I called her office and wrote emails imploring her not to vote yes. And, yes, her replies on her decision to vote yes are insulting.

[KittyWampus]

7. I have a girl-crush on Rachel

[Moochy]

8. Not sure what universe you are inhabiting

But Maddow and Pat Buchanan are certainly an entertaining duo. She brings out the kind old conservative coot in him. lol.

[Captain Hilts]

9. Then she needs to read HRC's statement on casting the vote. NOT a vote for war. Here's an excerpt.

Some people favor attacking Saddam Hussein now, with any allies we can muster, in the belief that one more round of weapons inspections would not produce the required disarmament, and that deposing Saddam would be a positive good for the Iraqi people and would create the possibility of a secular democratic state in the Middle East, one which could perhaps move the entire region toward democratic reform.

This view has appeal to some, because it would assure disarmament; because it would right old wrongs after our abandonment of the Shiites and Kurds in 1991, and our support for Saddam Hussein in the 1980's when he was using chemical weapons and terrorizing his people; and because it would give the Iraqi people a chance to build a future in freedom.

However, this course is fraught with danger. We and our NATO allies did not depose Mr. Milosevic, who was responsible for more than a quarter of a million people being killed in the 1990s. Instead, by stopping his aggression in Bosnia and Kosovo, and keeping on the tough sanctions, we created the conditions in which his own people threw him out and led to his being in the dock being tried for war crimes as we speak.

If we were to attack Iraq now, alone or with few allies, it would set a precedent that could come back to haunt us. In recent days, Russia has talked of an invasion of Georgia to attack Chechen rebels. India has mentioned the possibility of a pre-emptive strike on Pakistan. And what if China were to perceive a threat from Taiwan?

So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option.

A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him - use these powers wisely and as a last resort.

[Cameron27]

30. That's right

[Carolina]

31. SPIN

Robert Byrd warned against:
- the resolution
- the abandonment of Constitional responsibility by some (HRC) of his colleagues
- the haste with which the administration was forcing the resolution on Congress (just before the 2002 midterm elections)
- the rush to war with all its likely consequences.

Putting such "awesome responsibility in the hands of President" like Bush -- a known liar and cheater (theft 2000!) -- was absurd. Iraq was not an imminent threat. Bush and his ilk had had a hard-on to attack Iraq (spelled out in PNAC), etc.

Hillary was full of shit, casting a political hedge bet vote while giving a CYA speech.

Votes have consequences that's why Byrd, Kennedy and 21 others voted AGAINST the resolution.

Nice try.

[bernicewilliams]

10. Maddow also called Chris Matthews the "best political analyst on TV"

shortly before securing a spot on MSNBC.

She told him that some liberals thought he was responsible for Hillary's NH win. Note that she never said she SHARED THAT VIEW.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh011508.shtml

[AX10]

28. She may be trying to find a way to jump onto the Obama bandwagon.

[BeyondGeography]

11. She also said Hillary is on the road to political hell because of that vote

Very animated...Maddow's sincere about hating the war, though. Gotta love her for that.

[Perky]

14. SHe was really hammering Hillary for her response

[bernicewilliams]

20. Maddow KNOWS it's not her Iraq vote that has her on the road to hell

Maddow knows that Hillary's decline has come after the debate in which she flip flopped on immigration and most importantly, her husband's comments that were taken out of context by the press. But she is now PART of that mainstream media and you just can't tell on your media buddies. Maddow knows the game very well.

[sandnsea]

12. Rachel was an Edwards' supporter

and will probably move to Obama, unless irrational Obama hatred has overtaken her like it has Krugman. I don't see any evidence of that though.

[mucifer]

16. In her radio show the war is the first story EVERY DAY.

I would expect Rachel to rip Hillary for that.

[zulchzulu]

19. Rachel is/was NOT EVER a Hillary supporter

She would give her a chance, but she was firmly for Edwards.

Now I'm quite sure she's for Obama.

Hear me (nervously) talk to her yesterday:
http://www.awolcowboy.com/mp3/maddow.mp3

:hi:

[Stand and Fight]

22. Well, Rachel Maddow cry me a fucking river. n/t