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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:30 PM
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Will Florida set up a vote that counts or will they be disenfranchised?
The SCREAMING in 2000 over lost votes, hanging chads and disenfranchised voters in Florida is evidently forgotten if it is only a primary.

I think it is totally outrageous if Florida has no delegates, It says to the people, YOU DO NOT MATTER ONLY THE PARTY DOES.
That my friends is a horrible message to send out to such an important state. If their delegates get seated after the election is decided in some silly gesture...I think it will create a situation that people will say why vote in the general, they do not count us anyway.

Someone better fix this.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:34 PM
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1. who cares.. we get status quo again and nothing real will change..
wouldn't be surprised if the NAU becomes realized under the next paid for POTUS. They're all puppets.. there are no good one's left..
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:39 PM
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3. Thats what I fear, people will think they do not count in Florida.
This recent history with voters not being counted,Supreme court decisions and unbelievably bad strategic move by DEMOCRATS to continue thisby fighting over Primary dates and threatening to render the voice of Floridians symbollic, may lead the voters to say why bother. They may actually flip to McCain if Obama wins and their delegates would have been the difference. The age and demographics down there favor McCain and he is very popular there already.

Flrida is a must win in the general electionand Id hate bitter feelings or apathy to cause it togo McCain.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:34 PM
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12. Florida will go to McCain without a doubt.. Crist is pushing him. Its
an R already.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:39 PM
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4. Thats what I fear, people will think they do not count in Florida.
This recent history with voters not being counted,Supreme court decisions and unbelievably bad strategic move by DEMOCRATS to continue thisby fighting over Primary dates and threatening to render the voice of Floridians symbollic, may lead the voters to say why bother. They may actually flip to McCain if Obama wins and their delegates would have been the difference. The age and demographics down there favor McCain and he is very popular there already.

Flrida is a must win in the general electionand Id hate bitter feelings or apathy to cause it togo McCain.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:36 PM
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2. At this point
I will be pissed if our delegates are seated. We did not have real campaigning here. The whole thing was a sham.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:41 PM
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5. At this point, They best set up a caucus.
You cannot send the message that Florida does not count!
Not with the past scandals.

Even Obama supporters should realize this.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:55 PM
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9. Um, I am not an Obama supporter
but I don't like that no one got to campaign here and so the results are not fair.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:45 PM
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6. After 2000 a message to Florida saying you democrats do not count again, Is a major strategical goof
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:54 PM
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7. If FDP doesn't conduct a caucus then they are denying the delegates to be seated.
Maybe the delegates can be seated if certain super delegates were denied seating. Such as the ones that supported moving the primary against DNC rules. Rules that DNC committee members from Florida voted on.

Give that option to Florida delegates to vote on it. Not the super delegates but just the ones that were voted to be delegates voting by secret ballot.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:41 PM
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8. Florida should have its full voice heard, Even if it means The Democratic party has to PAY for it
We cannot let these people think they do not count.
If we do we give away a major prize in 08.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:34 PM
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11. The powers to be in the Florida Democratic Party knew the consequences and ignore it
I'm not saying prevent the seating of Florida delegates. But the super delegates that more than likely had a hand in scheduling the primary. Seat the delegates that are not super delegates.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:56 PM
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10. The DNC offered them that, actually--to pay for FL to set up caucuses later. FL refused.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:35 PM
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13. I wonder if the grassroots Democrats would had accepted that deal.
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