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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:25 PM
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Why isn't Hillary mentioning that she has Robt. Kennedy Jr. and others of his family endorsing her
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 02:58 PM by glarius
I have been puzzled by this. The Obama people keep mentioning the Ted and Caroline Kennedy endorsements. Hillary's people have been almost silent about Robert Kennedy, Kathleen Kennedy and others in that family. Robert is a well known environmentalist besides being the son of a beloved Kennedy...Robert Sr. Wouldn't this endorsement be just about as helpful to Hillary as Obama's is to him?
P.S....I just want to add...They may be talking about it on the stump, but when anyone connected with her is on TV, I have never seen them take advantage of the opportunity to say something. They don't need to be blatant. Just something like "we are happy to have Robert or Kathleen etc. etc"...would be a smart move, since more people get there info from TV then anywhere else.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:26 PM
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1. RFK Jr
is currently stumping for her.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:28 PM
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4. But we never see or hear of him on TV.
Don't you thin that she or her people should talk about this whenever they get air time. I doubt if most people are aware of this.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:30 PM
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8. Perhaps because Clinton values endorsements in a more dignified manner
thanking them for their support and letting them do what they wish in their own time, rather than pinning each endorsement on her sleeve like a trophy?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:30 PM
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9. As any Edwards supporter might attest
The Media only covers what IT wishes to cover.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:26 PM
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27. Exactly, maddie.
It's maddening, isn't it?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:26 PM
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2. dupe delete
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 02:26 PM by maddiejoan
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:27 PM
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3. She has and the media doesnt want to know

They have done everything to suggest all the Kennedys are for Obama and nothing hardly on the Other Kennedy's.

I think Hillary will bring it up tonight.

Robert is doing the leg work in Mass, Conneticut, NY and NJ this week stumping for Hillary.

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:29 PM
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6. It sounds like the media is purposely not reporting this then. IMO n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:29 PM
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It would look petty - and MSM wouldn't give this the same attention anyway
I think she's doing the right thing my not putting "my Kennedys against yours"
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:31 PM
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11. She wouldn't have to handle it like that.....She could say "I'm happy to have Robert etc."
n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:29 PM
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5. I have been wondering too. RFK jr is a huge endorsement.
And I worry that the Ted Kennedy endorsement is going to hurt Obama in the GE.
The repugs hate him. (ted)
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:29 PM
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7. Ted Caroline and Pat are far more high profile. Clinton does mention it, but the MSM doesn't care.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:31 PM
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10. She has mentioned it
Or her campaign has. Nobody really cared because it was old news.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:01 PM
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15. Old news?
How can an endorsement be old news? I don't get it. :shrug:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:06 PM
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18. November of last year...
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071129/NEWS/71129004/-1/NEWS04

Robert Kennedy Jr. endorses Hillary Clinton

ASSOCIATED PRESS • November 29, 2007
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:09 PM
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20. That's irrelevant. The point is he endorsed her...along with Kathleen and
Others in that family. IMO
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:21 PM
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23. What is irrelevant?
I thought I was replying to 'old news'? Perhaps if her supporters would like to tout all the endorsements she's gotten over the last however many months they should do that. I don't watch the cable news shows so I don't know how they handle endorsements from the past vs. endorsements of the day.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:25 PM
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25. I'm just saying whether it was November or yesterday, the thing is he endorsed her.
This is all irrelevant to me. I don't care if it's Hillary or Obama. I'm not a citizen and all I care is that a Democrat is elected for the sake of the rest of the world.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:31 PM
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12. Because Ted Kennedy is about eight thousand times more important
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 02:32 PM by Occam Bandage
than RFK Jr, and Caroline five thousand times more well-known than Kathleen. RFK Jr. has done many good things, but he's no Ted Kennedy.
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MediaBabe Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:24 PM
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24. Caroline is well known, huh?
Quick - tell me one thing about her other than that she was a child in the White House. I bet 99% of the folks don't even know her last name.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:26 PM
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26. She's written a few best-selling books
and yes, she is well-known simply by virtue of who she is.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:33 PM
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13. Corporate mediawhores owned by the rightwing doesn't want you to know...they want Obama because they
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 02:35 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
know that if Obama is the Dem nom....they can keep the WH in 08....Obama can not win the General Election...very simple Rove plan.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:29 PM
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29. I have been thinking this also. I can't see the south electing a Black person
and the Republicans know this and are hoping he is the candidate. I have been loathe to say this, but since you said it (if I read you right) I'll say it. I hope I'm wrong about the south, but that's the way it seems to me.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:33 PM
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14. Because RFK Jr. just wants her Senate seat. He already said so.
Hardly a ringing endorsement.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:03 PM
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16. Really? Do you have a link?
I had heard that might be the case, but I didn't know he'd said so.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:42 PM
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34. Yep, here it is. "If Hillary left the Senate, I might run for that seat."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2557909,00.html

"Kennedy Jr is the third of Bobby Kennedy’s 11 children, and at 53 is best known as an environmental activist. He has never previously run for office, but he told Oprah Winfrey in an interview to be published next month in O, the chat show presenter’s magazine: “If Hillary left the Senate, I might run for that seat.”"
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:44 PM
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37. Yes, but you notice he didn't specify what he meant by "that seat".
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:44 PM
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51. It seemed pretty obvious to me. He means Hillary's senate seat.
What other "seat" would open up if Hillary Clinton leaves the Senate? None that I can think of.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:05 PM
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17. Because RFK Jr.'s embarassing?
The guy's a kook. He's at the shallow end of that gene pool.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:10 PM
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21. Why do you say he's a kook? Seriously...
:wtf:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:29 PM
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46. The mercury in vaccines nonsense.
He's way out there.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:38 PM
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47. How is he out there?
What'd he say about the mercury that used to be in vaccines that was so "out there"?

:shrug:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:41 PM
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48. That it's sapping our precious bodily fluids.
That's why we should only use whiskey and rain water in vaccines.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:43 PM
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50. Right.
I guess I should have expected as much.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:13 PM
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22. He has been up here in Canada many times and I have been impressed
with his knowledge and sincerity. I don't believe he is a kook.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:30 PM
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31. Well no, except to DLC centrists n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:07 PM
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19. Oh HELL yes! Robert's endorsement speaks VOLUMES about which is the better on the environment.
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 03:07 PM by redqueen
:wow:

She really should tout that one at least!

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:30 PM
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30. Except she's not
Obama has the better environmental record. This is pure politics for her Senate seat, which belonged to his father.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4303944
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:38 PM
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32. Sorry... I don't go by ratings or scorecards... they're useless.
I was basing my opinion on his Energy Bill vote and his support for the nuclear industry & clean coal.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:45 PM
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38. He's a co-sponsor to Boxer-Sanders Global Warming Act
He supports nuclear if local safe storage methods can be developed, same with coal. He has those ratings because he's earned them.

http://www.grist.org/feature/2007/07/30/obama_factsheet/
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:50 PM
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41. Votes... not sponsorship...



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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:15 PM
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42. Without a mandate for real change
the kind of piecemeal legislation that we got with the Energy Bill is all we're ever going to get. That's the entire point of his campaign. With Hillary, you're going to get warmed around the edges centrism and partisan battles. You have to have a transformational politics to move people to support real change.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:43 PM
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35. you got that right n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:28 PM
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28. Why doesn't she tout RFK's endorsement?
Hmmm, that speaks volumes about Hillary Clinton, doesn't it. Hmmm, maybe she's embarrassed to have a "lefty loon" speak for her, because I can't imagine any other reason to ignore him the way she does.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:43 PM
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36. Or maybe she does, but it's not front page, above-the-fold worthy.
Kinda like Edwards' second place finish in IA.

Are you sure she doesn't?

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:21 PM
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44. campaign ads are easy to find
If there's one on her web site, I'm sure you could find it.

It is not Obama's fault that John Edwards didn't catch fire. The hatred Edwards' supporters have had for him has always been irrational. He has a lifetime record of working with the poor and passing legislation to help the poor. There is no logical reason for anyone to think he's the enemy of John Edwards' cause.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:08 PM
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45. I honestly just don't care enough to look...
I'm not voting for either in the primary... they're so similar, and I don't know which has the advantage in the GE.

I appreciate your passionate and mature support for Obama... and his record in Illinois... I remember he did help people on welfare... so maybe... I don't know... I might change my mind about voting for one of them. But as of now I'm solidly on the fence.
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MediaBabe Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:38 PM
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33. Over 200 prominent Democrats have endorsed Clinton
As fun as it is, she can't keep naming them over and over. Some of them were right there to endorse her early.

Here's a link to read all their wonderful names:

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html

You'll notice that in spite of all the hype Obama has only half the endorsements Clinton has.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:44 PM
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52. "in spite of all the hype Obama has only half the endorsements Clinton has"
*sigh*

Is it just me? Or is the media building him up?
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:03 PM
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54. I think the corporate media wants Obama because they don't think he can win.
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 06:04 PM by glarius
I have noticed how they are lavish in their praise of him also. I'm not a citizen and only care that a Democrat....any Democrat is your new President. It looks to me as if the media are hoping to have Obama run against the Republican candidate because they know that he will never be accepted by the southern voters. I hope I am wrong but that's how it looks to me.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:05 PM
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56. Maybe...
I'm so torn up over it... I live and work around just about 100% repubs, and they all say the same shit... Hillary will energize repugs (either the evangelicals who wouldn't otherwise vote for mccain, or the moderates who wouldn't otherwise vote for romney)...

But then they turn around and say that a minority candidate has zero chance.

They've started acting cocky since Edwards bowed out, and it's got me a little worried.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:11 PM
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57. I can understand your feelings. It must be so difficult to know what to do.
Know that we up here are with you and wish you the best.:loveya:
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:47 PM
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39. I'm wondering about that too.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:47 PM
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40. It's been mentioned
I've heard it many times by Clinton Supporters like Meek and Bayh
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aka-chmeee Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:21 PM
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43. Maybe she wants to spare him from being crucified
here on DU by the Obamaniacs.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:42 PM
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49. Because it will make all her bots flipping boogers at Ted Kennedy out to look like idiots
ayup.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:46 PM
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53. She doesn't brag. Obama does. nt
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:05 PM
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55. She has nothing to brag about. Obama does.
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