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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:20 PM
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So What is it, Hillary, Are You Independent or Not?
Are you going to distance yourself from Bill and his scandals, or are you going to claim that his experiences as President were your own?

You can't have it both ways.

You can't claim that you were fully involved in implementing his successes, but that you are simultaneously immune from his scandals and failures.

You were either a part of his administration or you were not.

So, which is it? Your surrogates are confused.

Evan Bayh was just interviewed on MSNBC. When asked about why voters should support you, he trumpeted the economic successes of "their administration" in the 90's. When subsequently asked whether Bill's new Kazakh scandal could be a problem for your campaign, he backtracked and heralded your independence from Bill.

So What is it, Hillary, Are You Independent or Not?
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:22 PM
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1. So should she divorce Bill, make a big announcement
I bet even then Obama people will still not be satisfied.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:24 PM
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3. No. I'm saying that if she wants credit for the good, she must also accept the bad.
If she was an integral part of his administration, as she claims, then she has to take responsibility for its failures too.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:23 PM
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2. not independent
Hillary is nothing without Bill just as Bill is nothing without Hillary

They have said so themselves, anyone that doubts that needs to do some reading
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:25 PM
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4. Like Hillary wasn't fully aware that the Jackson Stephens MONEY that staked WalMart and
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 12:25 PM by blm
brought BCCI into this country also bankrolled the political careers of Poppy Bush and an ambitious talented young Bill Clinton.

Whatever happened to that BCCI report that was handed to Bill Clinton when he took office anyway? The Bushes and their terror funding cronies should've been jailed by the end of 1994, instead we get Dems turning keys to congress over to GOPs, and Bush2 in WH, and Bin Laden free to attack us on 9-11, and this never-ending war on terror.

Thanks Bill and Hill.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:33 PM
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6. Yeah, Bill and Hill are responsible for: Bin Laden, 9/11, economy, AIDS, dogs#@* etc
Give me a break.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:35 PM
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7. BCCI matters led to 9-11 and Iraq war. Who deep-sixed the BCCI report for Bush1
and Jackson Stephens?

If you can answer what happened to that BCCI report handed to Bill Clinton when he took office, there are alot of us who would appreciate that information.

Thanks.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:27 PM
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5. They're a twofer.
Joined at the hip.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:39 PM
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8. Hillary is the last person anyone should ever question as to whether or not they're independent.
What, because she supports her spouse, her MAN, she's not independent?

What would define "independent" in your book? What should she do? Have Bill arrested? Boot him out of the house?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:43 PM
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9. She either was a part of, and responsible for, his administration or she was not.
She's either running on her own, or she's running as the former First Lady.

She can't have it both ways.
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