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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:50 AM
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The Audacity of Barack Obama.
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 01:01 AM by milkyway
The tug-of-war between democrats and republicans has been fought in recent years within a center-right political box that has been in place since the presidency of Ronald Reagan. Before Reagan's presidency, the national political discussion was more to the left than it is today. Through his courting of so-called Reagan democrats, Reagan moved the political playing field to the right, and President Clinton had to operate within the confines of that box. If Clinton had come along before Reagan, he would have been a much more progressive president. It has been argued that John Kerry in 2004 ran to the right of Richard Nixon in 1972. That's how far right our country has drifted.

Barack Obama was right when he said that Reagan had a more transformative effect than Clinton. The Clinton presidency was affected and constrained by the Reagan presidency, resulting in many progressives being angry with the more pragmatic Clinton; the bush junior presidency has certainly felt no constraints placed on it by the Clinton presidency. Barack Obama is highly aware of this repositioning of our national politics, and one of his goals is to reposition the playing field back to the left. He said several years ago that he wants to reverse the rightward drift of our nation.

So how does Obama plan to do this when many of his positions seem centrist or only mildly liberal? Obama's philosophy is to build a broad coalition, a working progressive majority (he's used the word "progressive" numerous times)--not by using labels, saying I'm this and you're that so we can't be on the same side of an issue, but by bringing people together and finding common sense solutions to our problems, solutions that will be progressive but may not be labeled as such. He thinks that progressive values are fundamental American values that most people share, even though they might not consider themselves progressive. He appeals strongly to independents, who now make up over a third of the electorate.

Barack has said he's all about addition--finding ways to add people, not subtract or divide. He wrote in the mid-90's, "What if a politician considered himself an organizer?" This is how he sees himself--an organizer who builds coalitions to force change. A strong majority of Americans share the same views on our biggest problems--health care, climate change, global warming, Iraq, the economy. All that is needed to implement the desired policies is to harness the political power of this large majority and use it to drive change.

A 51%-49% president will have a difficult time with the contemporary republican leadership--they are obstructionists whose main goal will be to prevent any Dem president from being successful, the well-being of the nation be damned. To beat them you have to overwhelm them with numbers, adding independents and moderate republicans, peeling away from their political support.

Obama has shown he can do this, particularly in the plains states, the mountain west and even some states like North Carolina and Virginia. By not turning off centrists and independents with strident language (the kind we like to hear at DU) and drawing lines in the sand, Obama can redraw the electoral map--instead of fighting over Florida and Ohio every four years, we can turn the republican party into a regional party for a generation. The disaster of the bush presidency and the emergence of Obama have given the Dems a rare opportunity to transform the political playing field; the staggering number of young people coming out to vote for Obama attests to this.

Barrack Obama is not the kind of candidate we in the progressive blogosphere have come to view as our kind of candidate. He challenges our preconceived notions about what a candidate needs to do to most effectively battle the republicans. Obama seems mild by comparison. But he has bold plans for transforming this nation. Any of our other candidates from this campaign could make a fine president--but none of them have the potential to be a game-changer like Barack Obama. The republicans are very familiar and comfortable with doing battle with dems like our other candidates. They'll win some battles and lose some battles, but we're always playing the game by their rules, where someone like Michael Moore is considered by many to be an extremist although most every one of his positions is held by a solid majority of the American people.

No candidate has shown the potential to transform the political landscape like Barack Obama. Though some can now look back at the policies of JFK and say that his presidency wasn't all that liberal after all, it sure felt transformational at the time, and those brief years helped usher in a wave of tremendous changes.

Below are two links discussing Obama's vision of politics and this nation, with a few paragraphs snipped from each. The first is a post that Obama made at dailyKos.com in 2005, and the second is an article about him in 1995 when he was running for the Illinois Senate. And for those who think the appeal of Obama is mostly conceptual, without clear policy details, there is this from his website:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/


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Obama discussed his political philosophy in a post at dailyKos.com two years ago:

<snip>

I am not drawing a facile equivalence here between progressive advocacy groups and right-wing advocacy groups. The consequences of their ideas are vastly different. Fighting on behalf of the poor and the vulnerable is not the same as fighting for homophobia and Halliburton. But to the degree that we brook no dissent within the Democratic Party, and demand fealty to the one, "true" progressive vision for the country, we risk the very thoughtfulness and openness to new ideas that are required to move this country forward. When we lash out at those who share our fundamental values because they have not met the criteria of every single item on our progressive "checklist," then we are essentially preventing them from thinking in new ways about problems. We are tying them up in a straightjacket and forcing them into a conversation only with the converted.

Beyond that, by applying such tests, we are hamstringing our ability to build a majority. We won't be able to transform the country with such a polarized electorate. Because the truth of the matter is this: Most of the issues this country faces are hard. They require tough choices, and they require sacrifice. The Bush Administration and the Republican Congress may have made the problems worse, but they won't go away after President Bush is gone. Unless we are open to new ideas, and not just new packaging, we won't change enough hearts and minds to initiate a serious energy or fiscal policy that calls for serious sacrifice. We won't have the popular support to craft a foreign policy that meets the challenges of globalization or terrorism while avoiding isolationism and protecting civil liberties. We certainly won't have a mandate to overhaul a health care policy that overcomes all the entrenched interests that are the legacy of a jerry-rigged health care system. And we won't have the broad political support, or the effective strategies, required to lift large numbers of our fellow citizens out of numbing poverty.

The bottom line is that our job is harder than the conservatives' job. After all, it's easy to articulate a belligerent foreign policy based solely on unilateral military action, a policy that sounds tough and acts dumb; it's harder to craft a foreign policy that's tough and smart. It's easy to dismantle government safety nets; it's harder to transform those safety nets so that they work for people and can be paid for. It's easy to embrace a theological absolutism; it's harder to find the right balance between the legitimate role of faith in our lives and the demands of our civic religion. But that's our job. And I firmly believe that whenever we exaggerate or demonize, or oversimplify or overstate our case, we lose. Whenever we dumb down the political debate, we lose. A polarized electorate that is turned off of politics, and easily dismisses both parties because of the nasty, dishonest tone of the debate, works perfectly well for those who seek to chip away at the very idea of government because, in the end, a cynical electorate is a selfish electorate.

<snip>

My dear friend Paul Simon used to consistently win the votes of much more conservative voters in Southern Illinois because he had mastered the art of "disagreeing without being disagreeable," and they trusted him to tell the truth. Similarly, one of Paul Wellstone's greatest strengths was his ability to deliver a scathing rebuke of the Republicans without ever losing his sense of humor and affability. In fact, I would argue that the most powerful voices of change in the country, from Lincoln to King, have been those who can speak with the utmost conviction about the great issues of the day without ever belittling those who opposed them, and without denying the limits of their own perspectives.

<snip>

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/30/102745/165/500/153069

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Here is an excellent article from the Chicago Reader in 1995 in which discussing Obama's strategy and goals, and how he sees himself foremost as an organizer, empowering people to create change:

<snip>

What makes Obama different from other progressive politicians is that he doesn't just want to create and support progressive programs; he wants to mobilize the people to create their own. He wants to stand politics on its head, empowering citizens by bringing together the churches and businesses and banks, scornful grandmothers and angry young. Mostly he's running to fill a political and moral vacuum. He says he's tired of seeing the moral fervor of black folks whipped up--at the speaker's rostrum and from the pulpit--and then allowed to dissipate because there's no agenda, no concrete program for change.

<snip>

"In America," Obama says, "we have this strong bias toward individual action. You know, we idolize the John Wayne hero who comes in to correct things with both guns blazing. But individual actions, individual dreams, are not sufficient. We must unite in collective action, build collective institutions and organizations."

<snip>

"What if a politician were to see his job as that of an organizer," he wondered, "as part teacher and part advocate, one who does not sell voters short but who educates them about the real choices before them? As an elected public official, for instance, I could bring church and community leaders together easier than I could as a community organizer or lawyer. We would come together to form concrete economic development strategies, take advantage of existing laws and structures, and create bridges and bonds within all sectors of the community. We must form grass-root structures that would hold me and other elected officials more accountable for their actions.

<snip>

http://www.chicagoreader.com/obama/951208/
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:53 AM
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1. That explains "Change" very well as anything else I have read.....
in reference to what Obama is referring to!

Change in the way we do business.......and start including American people.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:29 AM
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24. the difference between obama and clinton
clinton believes that the state-government is the agent of change

barrack believes the people are the agent of change

hillary has always subscribed to this concept since her earliest days of political life.
this is not to say that hillary did`t do good works but that she never understood the need of the people to define their wants and needs thus never really transforming those wants and needs into action to effect political change.her statement about lbj and mlk is an example. barrack is pretty much the opposite of hillary`s philosophy. who will do the best to fulfill the wants and needs of the american people? my opinion rests with obama`s understanding that we the people must decide and it is his job to make sure that he fights for us.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:42 PM
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44. Exactly my thoughts
She does not believe in us, why should we believe in her?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:54 AM
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2. More Republican love
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 12:54 AM by billbuckhead
It's not your friends who reveal one's character, but one's enemies. :tinfoilhat:bama certainly has many odd reichwing ideas, friends and supporters.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:38 PM
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41. Even *if* that's true
look who's working on his campaign.

Hillary loses on that count because, IMO, the people on her staff are more conservative/hawkish relative to Obama's staff.

PS---http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4314230
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:56 AM
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3. A wonderful compilation.
Thank you for putting all that together!

K&R :kick:

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:05 AM
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4. waiting for another sea change
The kinds of moments that come only once in a generation is happening right now. With Barack Obama we have the opportunity to change the way people look at politics, not just issues. His candidacy represents not only the move back towards liberalism but the move away from entrenched ideas.

Thanks for that excellent post.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:06 AM
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5. But what if I don't want to "unify" with the health insurance companies that want me dead?
Not all "businesses" are corporations, of course. I'm not the slightest bit interested in getting snuggly with the latter.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:11 AM
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8. He isn't either, don't you understand?
Change cannot happen all at once, it has to be gradual, or it will not happen at all. Do we want big talk that can never happen, or do we want action from the kind of President that has the thought-process and the wherewithal to get us there- with patience. Impatience with these issues will ensure that we won't get to where we want to be socially, or economically. Obama is not the status-quo, but trusting a politician will be hard for many, and I understand that.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:51 AM
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18. It can't? Apparently change on behalf of actual real people can't
Change about invading a country that was no threat to us can apparently happen instantly, almost overnight, though.

Patience is what the gutless and spineless have been advocating for 30+ years now. How's that working out for us? :sarcasm:
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:55 AM
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19. Did you read the article??
Consevative thoughts are very simple and carried out easily, with little thought. To install progressive ideas takes more effort, as it is more nuanced, less black and white, and many conservatives just cannot think on the same plane as we liberals can. I doubt we will ever outnumber them, so we will have to convert some, somehow. Spare the :sarcasm: please.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:18 AM
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29. I think that health care for all, everbody in and nobody out--
--is as simple as you can get. It only gets complicated if you start wussing around worrying about how not to get insurance companies mad at you.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:35 PM
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33. I want that too
But Rome wasn't built in a day. I think the most effective way of getting there is gradually.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:41 PM
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43. That's like being a little bit pregnant
Insurance companies exist to deny benefits to people. There will be no solution without confronting that fact.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:42 PM
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45. Why does it have to be gradual?
You are just asserting this as an element of faith as far as I can tell.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:32 PM
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40. They don't want you dead,
they just don't care if you die, so long as you give them money.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:07 AM
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6. I wish everyone would read this, but they probably won't.
I love the way Sen. Obama thinks. He is such a deep-thinker that gets to the roots much like a psychologist might. This article from his accounts to dailykos show, to me at the very least, why he does not just demand everything that true progressives want. He knows that we have to work towards them, it doesn't just happen all at once. Obama is a progressive, despite what many are saying, he has an actual plan for getting there, which is little by little, the only way that can truly work. That makes him look centrist to an extent, but once he gets in office, I would have every belief that he would work towards the changes that we would like in our government. I've never doubted that he is a good man, looking to do the right thing for the people. He has the foresight to see that the changes that need to be made are carefully measured, so as to not to get shot down as "too liberal". We are too impatient as a whole, but patience would be rewarded Sen. Obama as our President. I would like to thank the OP for finding these tidbits, as they show what our candidate is really constructed of. Recommended x 1000 !!!!!
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:11 AM
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7. good stuff here
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:21 AM
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9. It sure is
To understand Obama, is to read his thoughts and comprehend them. Unfortunately, many won't ever know his thoughts or fully understand where he wants to take this nation. He is so intellectual, perhaps the most introspective politician I have ever come across. His essence cannot be captured in a simple debate or a speech to an enthusiastic crowd, as he has to water down his message into consumable pieces. I would urge anyone on the fence as to whether to vote for Obama to either read one of his books (skim if you vote Tuesday), or search the net as the OP has done for Obama's thoughts. This article and the writings of the Senator are what have me entrenched in his camp. I am not worshiping a "Rock star" here, I am deeply admiring an intellectual, with whom I feel a kinship with, due to our similar views on how to get our nation where it needs to go. It takes all of us as concerned citizens, to help get there.
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piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:37 AM
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27. You scare me.
em
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:54 AM
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28. I beg your pardon?
Because I'm not an Edwards backer?
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:25 AM
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31. I responded to you in another post.
Maybe you'd like to create an OP about how many Obama followers are like Hitler followers.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:22 AM
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10. Excellent!
I hope the people that are really interested in solving the problems in this country read and think about it.

The majority of Americans want to work together and make a difference in their community. It is the minority that just wants to fight, demonize and demoralize creating an 'enemy' where none exists. Some make a very nice living doing that.

Hope is only realized if you are willing to take action to be part of the solution not part of the problem.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:23 AM
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11. I'm still waiting for him to reach out to the left. I know he loves his pubbies, but
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 01:30 AM by jlake
he certainly has neglected the base of the party.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:26 AM
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12. Well, turnabout's fair play. How has Hillary reached out?
I thought she was running for the center in anticipation of the general election. How has she mended fences with the progressives, who often enough call her Republican-lite and deride her affiliation with the DLC?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:26 AM
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13. The same could be said about Clinton
I also wish that Obama would reach out to the left.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:32 AM
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14. She has certainly done a better job of reaching out to me and other members of the GLBT
community. And I feel that she HAS reached out to the base of the party more offering more substantive, honest plans for the future.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:36 AM
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15. as you might have predicted
I'm going to bring up the IWR vote. If she would apologize I would instantly forgive and my biggest reason for not supporting her would fly out the window. I know that it's old news but I can't get over it. As someone who has been against the war from day 1, I cannot let this go.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:38 AM
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16. I understand your concern. I think she has apologized as much as she is going to.
The problem is that I do not believe Obama would have voted against it. Since he has been in the US Senate, He hasn't shown me the kind of political courage that it would have taken to oppose it.
In my mind, it is not an issue between Clinton and Obama.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:44 AM
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17. I believe that we have come to the point of honest disagreement
He may have voted for it, but we'll never know. As a democrat who wants us to do well in the fall, I would love to see her take the Edwards route. My problem with her voting for it is because I feel like her reasoning must have been "I want there to be precedent for this someday when I'm president". It seems to me that her presidency was something she took for granted and that is what prompted the vote.

Thank you for responding to my post with respect. You've shown civility that has been sorely lacking on DU these last few weeks.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:56 AM
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20. Thanks. And I don't disagree with your point.
I think that Clinton, Biden, Kerry and other great Democrats voted for it for political reasons, knowing in their hearts it was not the right thing to do. I have had to forgive them because if I write off aneveryone who voted "yes" I wouldn't have many politicians left to respect.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:01 AM
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21. As a member of the GLBT community
what has Clinton done for you? This would be interesting info to have. One of my coolest political moments was watching Gov. Gray Davis sign the California domestic partnership benefits into law.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:08 AM
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22. this says it all.....
"My dear friend Paul Simon used to consistently win the votes of much more conservative voters in Southern Illinois because he had mastered the art of "disagreeing without being disagreeable," and they trusted him to tell the truth."

paul simon was one of the finest men and politician that illinois has had since lincoln. he knew barrack had something special. paul never lived long enough to see barrack rise to the position he is now...but i think paul knew he would.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:25 AM
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23. Let's see, 95, ah yes, the Clintons were pushing "welfare reform"
or was it NAFTA? So much experience there!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:34 AM
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26. the health care plan was her disaster
she had no clue about what she was doing and ended up with plan that made no sense to anyone.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:22 AM
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30. Her choice of pantsuits was just as bad. And that hair! OMG, it was ridiculous!
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 03:23 AM by Major Hogwash
And that was Hillary's contribution to politics circa 1993-1998.

What new hairstyle will Hillary have today?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:06 PM
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37. And she set back healthcare reform for almost two decades
As the Clintons were too scared to go back to the issue, and then Bush got into office.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:34 AM
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25. Anyone who wants to understand Obama should start with this
rec'd
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:31 AM
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32. kick.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:00 PM
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34. Kick, this is a MUST READ! nt
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:01 PM
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35. From the title, I was expecting another hit piece
This was a pleasant surprise. Thanks
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:04 PM
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36. Obama realizes that the public is on the progressives side
On most of the major issues, from the war to healthcare. This has been confirmed by polls throughout the years.

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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:14 PM
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38. The Audacity of Hopelessness..
It is hopeless with no depth behind flowery words! Where's "the beef" of Hope, Barack?!

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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 03:22 PM
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39. You do realize he's campaigning to the right of what
he'll do if elected, right? His actions in the US and Illinois Senate do the talking for him, he is a true liberal, and gets the job done.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 05:29 PM
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42. Kickity kick
Must read if you haven't already.
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