Some things about HILLARY that have BEEN bothering me

[FrenchieCat]

1. She's Running on her husbands' record as much as she is on her own.
2. The Clintons lost congress for us....and it took till 2006 to kind of get it back
3. DLC
4. Sanctions against Iraq
5. Hillary stating that she extended her hand to Barack, when she knows it's a lie
6. She voted for the IWR, and is simply not sorry about it. How much in treasure and lives does that add up to?
7. That she supported her Husband in his NAFTA debacle, and it took too long for them to realize what they had done.
8. Hate that Florida "I'll make sure your delegates get sitted" stuff.
9. The fact that folks on both the left and right in a big way just don't care for her
10. Her triangulation
11. Her support for the Bankrupcy bill
12. Her China Trade vote
13. Her Patriot Act
14. Not reading the NIE
15. She wants "it" too much
16. That Yellow jacket that they kept showing her wearing during the SC pre-primary
17. That she drags her daughter everywhere she goes to remind folks that she is a mother.....like we would forget.
18. Her speaking voice
19. That she didn't have the wherewithall to present a health care bill that made a difference
20. The fact that she could stay with that phelandering Bill and deal with the mental abuse
21. That he said he didn't have sex with that woman.
22. Her overall political calculative demeanor
OH, and I can find snooty pics too!





This is in response to a thread about "what bothers someone about Obama".
We can all play that game.

Just cause folks aren't used to a brother with game, I can't help that.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

1. Then, if you can't vote for Hillary in the primaries, vote for Obama. But vote Dem in the GE. nt

[MH1]

2. One you forgot

backstabbing John Kerry in the fall of 2006, 6 days before the midterm elections.

For many in Kerry's orbit, the final straw came in 2006, after the senator mangled a joke about lousy students getting "stuck in Iraq." (Kerry had intended to needle Bush for "getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.") The fallout helped dash Kerry's hopes of another White House run. In the minds of his supporters, that's precisely what Hillary Clinton intended when she piled on two days later, calling the comment "inappropriate." "A lot of us were rip-shit pissed off at Hillary for putting her boot on his neck," says one dedicated fund-raiser. Once Kerry officially bowed out, several of his most loyal money men decamped for team Obama.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=4d59656c-ac34-4e87-9fe9-9ae37b2e2653&p=1

Any claim to "class" that Hillary had, disintegrated that day.

[Rageneau]

8. You dis Hillary because of what Bill did, for not leaving him for it, and for wearing yellow?

Boy, you're just loaded with gravitas, aren't you.

And we should listen to your silly opinions why?

[KittyWampus]

9. It's not just she wears yellow. But her husband appears with her wearing matching tie.

JUST KIDDING.

Though it's true Bill wears matching tie.

[MH1]

15. You didn't read my post either?

Or is something getting scrambled in the internet tubes?

[KittyWampus]

22. I am just being silly stupid and responding to poster above me

:)

[MH1]

14. What does you post have to do with my post?

HILLARY backstabbed John Kerry. Had nothing to do with anything Bill did or what color one of them wore.

[truebrit71]

20. She is a cold, calculating politician that will throw ANYONE under the bus if it is politically...

..beneficial to her...

I detest her phoney sincerity and fake concern...

She is in this for HERSELF...

[MH1]

24. True dat.

[msongs]

3. there's a shock, you don't like HRC. who knew? nt

[sueh]

4. Great post, FrenchieCat. One cannot argue the facts.

[tandem5]

5. I like the pictures, honestly. nt

[KennedyGuy]

6. Imitation IS the highest form of flattery

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4301081

[Levgreee]

7. The thing that I disliked the most was lying about Obama's stance on abortion, manipulation on fear

as was former President of Chicago NOW, Lorna Brett Howard, who was enraged by Hillary's completely deceptive attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVuMYKs8iJs

[bellasgrams]

13. Yea Hillary, You're the best.

[ErnestoG]

10. I am bothered by her refusal to apologize for her war vote.

(drum roll....here comes the 'well what about Obama's stance on the war!???' brigade...)

[indimuse]

17. your damn right!Obama voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater

Obama voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater
Obama voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater
Obama voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater
Obama voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater




http://creativeyouth.net/obamaliespeopledie.html
http://davidsirota.com/index.php/mr-obama-goes-to-washi... /
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&ie=UTF-8&rls=WZPA,WZPA:2006-15,WZPA:en&q=Obama+voted+for+war+appropriations+giving+our+money+to+Halliburton+and+Blackwater
"Then there is the Iraq War. Obama says that during his 2004 election campaign he “loudly and vigorously” opposed the war. As The New Yorker noted, “many had

been drawn initially by Obama’s early opposition to the invasion.” But “when his speech at the antiwar rally in 2002 was quietly removed from his campaign Web site,”

the magazine reported, “activists found that to be an ominous sign”–one that foreshadowed Obama’s first months in the Senate. Indeed, through much of 2005, Obama

said little about Iraq, displaying a noticeable deference to Washington’s bipartisan foreign policy elite, which had pushed the war. One of Obama’s first votes as a

senator was to confirm Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of State despite her integral role in pushing the now-debunked propaganda about Iraq’s WMD"

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Hillary on the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill
by Crystal Pattersonin News5/24/2007 8:54 PMHillary:

"Tonight I voted against the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill because it fails to compel the President to give our troops a new strategy in Iraq. I believe

that the President should begin a phased redeployment of our troops out of Iraq and abandon this escalation. I fully support our troops, and wish the President had

followed the will of the people and signed the original bill we sent which both funded the troops and set a new course of phased redeployment. But the President

vetoed Congress's new strategy and so Congress must reject the President's failed policies. I will also continue to press with Senator Byrd for our legislation to end

the authorization of the war in Iraq.

While I am deeply disappointed that the supplemental does not provide for a new course in Iraq, I want to recognize the many worthy parts of this bill: funding to help

those sickened in the aftermath of 9/11, additional relief for Katrina and Rita victims, homeland security funds for high-threat cities like New York City, resources to

protect parts of New York affected by recent flooding, $650 million for the State Children's Health Insurance Program, and the first federal minimum wage increase in

ten years. I support these measures but cannot support this Emergency Supplemental which will not change\
our course in Iraq."

<snip>
Obama voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater. His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any

troop withdrawal!!!!Which if not suspended, still keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come? Also gave in to pressure from the Bush and lobbyists, Obama voted

for Bush's energy bill, sending more than $13 billion in subsidies and tax breaks to oil, coal, and nuclear companies. Obama was the Senate's biggest Democratic

advocate of subsidies for liquid coal, even though liquid coal produces twice the global warming pollution of the crude oil it's meant to Look at today headlines from AP

NEW YORK - Crude oil prices soared to $100 a barrel Wednesday for the first time, reaching that milestone amid an unshakeable view that global demand for oil and

petroleum products will outstrip supplies.
Obama is lost in the game of politics we cannto afford to let him learn in the White House!




Obama voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater. His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any

troop withdrawal!!!!Which if not suspended, still keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come? Also gave in to pressure from the Bush and lobbyists, Obama voted

for Bush's energy bill, sending more than $13 billion in subsidies and tax breaks to oil, coal, and nuclear companies. Obama was the Senate's biggest Democratic

advocate of subsidies for liquid coal, even though liquid coal produces twice the global warming pollution of the crude oil it's meant to Look at today headlines from AP

NEW YORK - Crude oil prices soared to $100 a barrel Wednesday for the first time, reaching that milestone amid an unshakeable view that global demand for oil and

petroleum products will outstrip supplies.
Obama is lost in the game of politics we cannto afford to let him learn in the White House!

[grantcart]

11. you forgot my #1 which also can be a picture

[Maven]

12. She doesn't look snooty in those pictures.

[Thrill]

16. A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain

[nickinSTL]

18. some of those I agree with, some are just juvenile

and inane...

and what's with this one?:
8. Hate that Florida "I'll make sure your delegates get sitted" stuff.

Sure, she won FL and MI at least partly because no one campaigned there, but why is it better that the people get punished for the stupidity of the state and national parties by having their votes nullified? I have to say I agree with Clinton on this.

[russian33]

19. oh lord...ain't this a nifty list

2. The Clintons lost congress for us....and it took till 2006 to kind of get it back
right, that was all the clinton's fault

5. Hillary stating that she extended her hand to Barack, when she knows it's a lie
says who? Barack?

8. Hate that Florida "I'll make sure your delegates get sitted" stuff.
i think she wants them seated actually

15. She wants "it" too much
yeah, i much rather have a candidate like fred thompson, who didn't seem to care one way or another

16. That Yellow jacket that they kept showing her wearing during the SC pre-primary
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....well, this settled it for me! i'm going for Obama, as long as he keeps up with nice ties

17. That she drags her daughter everywhere she goes to remind folks that she is a mother.....like we would forget.
Um, her daughter is old enough...she might enjoy campaigning for her mom? that thought ever occurred to you?

18. Her speaking voice
yes, shrill, screams, harpy, bla, bla, bla...go to Tweety for more quotes on that

22. Her overall political calculative demeanor
yeah, let's get someone like Kerry again...who couldn't calculate shit

[elana i am]

21. mine...

1. iraq
2. various and sundry less than progressive stances like nafta
3. bill
4. bill
5. bill...

[AtomicKitten]

23. Today someone actually posted Bill's record as hers.

Rumor has it the resurrection of the term "Billary" has the Clinton camp all atwitter. Too late, I think. Although I have never used that term, the melding of these two people into one entity is complete. I think it was once an episode of: