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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:04 PM
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if she manages to get elected, it'll be 4 years of
melodrama, scandals, pitched battles and a dreary deja vu. Clintonian secrecy and triangulation.

I want a fresh start. Not the same shit.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:05 PM
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1. since you can see into the future, what will the stock market be in 2011? nt
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:01 AM
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31. Who's putting up these Bullshit Topics?
DU discourse has gone down 25 notches since the Daily Kurse
droids stampeded over.
Wish they'd go back to the blog they ran into the ground with
s*t like this.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:06 PM
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2. And you'll be on the wrong side of all the battles based on your hatred.
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:44 AM
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26. Hmmm... That picture of Hillary is looking better and better to me
Clinton/Edwards looks pretty good,too!
I'm really sick of them bullying the Clintons... :pals:
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:56 AM
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29. I like your signature line...
I've always said that Kucinich is the ehart and soul of progressive politics, but my pragmatic choice was Biden.

-P
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:07 PM
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3. And you think it will be better with Obama
There Will be a repub payback to be made along with the corporate payback.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:59 PM
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15. Politics isn't a good place to rely on the kindness of Republicans, is it? nt
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:07 PM
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4. In other words, business as usual
I would be happy with any democrat
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:07 PM
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5. Ditto that.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:08 PM
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6. What will the next 4 years of Republican rule bring?
Whether it's Hillary or Obama we better hope that one of them wins.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:09 PM
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7. I think I understand how your post count got so high.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:03 AM
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18. check my sigline
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:10 PM
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8. Just for you..
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:23 PM
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9. not very original are you, sweetums?
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:43 PM
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12. sounding shrill again catty
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:14 AM
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23. Hey, a sexist Hillary supporter
:thumbsup:
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:46 PM
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14. That POS was a copycat thread?
Wow, it was even worse than I thought.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:40 PM
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10. Murdoch (NY Post) agrees with you
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/postopinion.htm


POST ENDORSES BARACK OBAMA


January 30, 2008 -- Democrats in 22 states across America go to the polls next Tuesday to pick between two presidential prospects: Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

We urge them to choose Obama - an untried candidate, to be sure, but preferable to the junior senator from New York.<snip>

For all his charisma and his eloquence, the rookie senator sorely lacks seasoning: Regarding national security, his worldview is beyond naive; America must defend itself against those sworn to destroy the nation.

His all-things-to-all-people approach to complicated domestic issues also arouses scant confidence. "Change!" for the sake of change does not a credible campaign platform make. But he remains a highly intelligent man, with a strong record as a conciliator.<snip>

Finally, Sen. Clinton stands philosophically far to the left of her husband, and is much more disciplined in pursuit of her agenda.<snip>

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:41 PM
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11. And quite possibly, loss of one or both houses of Congress
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:45 PM
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13. She comes off as all business and discliplined so don't know what you mean
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:18 AM
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24. She comes off as a cold, calculating, liar who would
vote to send people off to die in an unnecessary war if it meant she could further her political career.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:00 AM
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16. moderate judges and sexual orientation realignment camps! woohoo. nt.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:02 AM
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17. Me too, why don't they see it
Chicago and the Clintons have been digging for dirt and the worst they can come up with is this hashed over Rezko non-scandal.

Why would we want Clintonian dirt and scandal, and only get centrist triangulated policies in return.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:03 AM
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19. the koolaid drinkers who love reruns will get what they deserve
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:05 AM
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20. Maybe. But I don't want 4 more years of Preacher In Chief.
Everyone has their issues. :shrug:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:06 AM
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c'mon...a Bible in every hand. a cross around every neck. Obama be thy name. nt.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:06 AM
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21. SHE has a name, and it's Senator Clinton! n/t
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:12 AM
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22. yeah, the RW will suddenly stop the attacks?
Vote so the right doesn't act out?

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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:59 AM
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30. they will stop, they have run out of new ammo
I think hillary would actually almost be immune to the GOP garbage, the american public knows what it is, not to mention her fellow senators actually respect her more than Bill.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:24 AM
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25. Well, I hope one of them beats the republican.
I'm not crazy about either of them, but they are both way better than the republicans.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:50 AM
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27. thanks cali!
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:55 AM
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28. Let it go.
We will all know the results on Tuesday. The real democrats will support the candidate. The greens will continue to bitch until they get tombstoned.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:21 AM
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32. You want a pompous amateur
with not even enough experience to be a governor. Rah rah cis boom bah Yah Obama. hmmpphptt.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 04:05 AM
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33. Sorry, you don't get that
It was a done deal from start to finish. Now shush, and go vote for the nice woman, er, couple. :sarcasm:
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