Hillary camp slaps Obama down but good!

[KennedyGuy]

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=5603

Just 24 hours after Sen. Obama asserted he has run a consistently positive campaign, he released excerpts of a speech to be delivered this morning in Denver, CO that distorts Hillary’s record and lays down a number of misleading attacks. In fact, Sen. Obama will issue four misleading attacks on Hillary in a single sentence.

“It’s time for new leadership that understands that the way to win a debate with John McCain is not by nominating someone who agreed with him on voting for the war in Iraq; who agreed with him in voting to give George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran; who agrees with him in embracing the Bush-Cheney policy of not talking to leaders we don’t like, and who actually differed with him by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions when the politics of the moment changed.”
Let’s address Sen. Obama’s allegations one at a time.

First: Sen. Obama begins by criticizing Hillary on Iraq. Sen. Obama does not mention that -- with the exception of Hillary's opposition to the promotion of Iraq war architect Gen. George Casey -- Sen. Obama and Hillary have identical voting records on the Iraq war. Read more here.

Second: Sen. Obama then misrepresents Hillary’s position on Iran. In fact, Hillary was one of the earliest and staunchest opponents of Bush’s saber rattling on Iran, and spoke out on the issue back in February:

Hillary made a floor speech declaring that President Bush must get authorization from Congress before taking military action against Iran.
Hillary co-sponsored the Webb bill prohibiting use of funds for military action in Iran without Congressional authorization.
Sen. Obama missed the vote he is now using to attack Hillary. He issued a release 9 hours later and co-sponsored a similar bill in April. The bill was also supported by Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL), a staunch anti-war Bush critic and prominent Obama supporter. Read more here and here.

Third: Sen. Obama then misrepresents Hillary’s position on diplomacy. Hillary criticized Sen. Obama for pre-committing to a personal meeting in his first year with "with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea." She never said that a president should only meet with America's friends. She also promised vigorous diplomatic efforts with all countries, friend and foe. Read more here.

Fourth: Sen. Obama accuses Hillary of changing her policy on torture due to ‘the politics of the moment.’ He couldn’t be more wrong. Hillary met with retired generals, talked with experienced military officers, and read reports commissioned by the Defense Intelligence Agency. She concluded that 'torture cannot be part of American policy, period.'

Sen. Obama laments this kind of politics in his book, Audacity of Hope:

For that is how most of my colleagues, Republican and Democrat, enter the Senate…their words distorted, and their motives questioned.

[KennedyGuy]

1. kick

[peacebird]

2. and "facts.HILLARYHUB" is supposed to be an unbiased truthful site?

:puke:

good grief - the hillbots are out in force tonight. They only make me loathe her more.

:eyes:

[peoli]

3. Hillary dosent have a leg to stand on. Just hot gas.

[KennedyGuy]

4. If you stand downwind, you won't have that gas problem

[Auntie Bush]

15. Most horses have a gas problem. Bottle it up and sell it around here.

I'm sure there will be lots of takers. Hee, hee that name horseface gets me! It sure takes nerve and I gotta hand it to ya. By the way I love horses. :hi:

[blm]

5. And some enter the WH and spend the next 8yrs deep-sixing all the outstanding

matters that would prove uncomfortable for Poppy Bush, Jackson Stephens, Dubai and Saudi royals, Marc Rich, James Bath, Adnan Khashoggi, AQ Khan, and many other characters named in the BCCI report.

[riverwalker]

6. "Hillaryhub"?

Her supporters need to be spoon fed this blather? Maybe if her supporters would research on their own, I would have more respect for them. Hillary The Enabler swallowed whatever Bush fed her about the war and she swallowed it. I guess her robotniks do the same.

[ErnestoG]

7. snooze.

[ProSense]

8. Fact checking Hillary's fact check on Obama's statements

Fact checking Hillary's fact check on Obama's statements

[Thrill]

9. YAWN

[Texas_Kat]

10. Has Obama taken time to sign on to Hillary's "no longterm Iraq stay" bill?

Anyone know?

[Jim Sagle]

11. Obama ain't nuthin' but shit.

[ProSense]

13. Shit? Classy! n/t

[Bluerthanblue]

16. are you an expert in shit?

or just lacking anything real to say regarding this issue?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

22. fuckwit

Go ahead, alert on this post. It was worth it.

Fuckwit.

[izzybeans]

12. So how did she actually vote again?

Pardon me for calling the Whaaambulance on this one but...

[indimuse]

14. Obama voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater!!

AP JUNE 2007 - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama laid out list of political shortcomings he sees in the Bush administration but said he opposes impeachment for either President George W. Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney. . . "I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breeches, and intentional breeches of the president's authority," he said.
Seemed to be a man of the people, but then he's involved in shady real estate deals. Who knows. But then I learn his wife is a director in the Chicago CFR, or whatever they call themselves these days. The CFR is one of the most anti-American groups that exist(Dick Cheney is also a member , as most of them are. Them being crooked politicians who stop at nothing to sell us out).
Then, the kicker, Zbigniew Brzezinski, is one of Barack Obama’s national security advisers! This guy is practically the architect of our middle east mess. Read his book "The Grand Chessboard", he lays out the whole plan right there, AND he wrote it in 1998.
So Obama, who is supposedly anti-war, is aligned with one of the most hawkish guys out there.
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Hillary on the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill
by Crystal Pattersonin News5/24/2007 8:54 PMHillary:

"Tonight I voted against the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill because it fails to compel the President to give our troops a new strategy in Iraq. I believe that the President should begin a phased redeployment of our troops out of Iraq and abandon this escalation. I fully support our troops, and wish the President had followed the will of the people and signed the original bill we sent which both funded the troops and set a new course of phased redeployment. But the President vetoed Congress's new strategy and so Congress must reject the President's failed policies. I will also continue to press with Senator Byrd for our legislation to end the authorization of the war in Iraq.

While I am deeply disappointed that the supplemental does not provide for a new course in Iraq, I want to recognize the many worthy parts of this bill: funding to help those sickened in the aftermath of 9/11, additional relief for Katrina and Rita victims, homeland security funds for high-threat cities like New York City, resources to protect parts of New York affected by recent flooding, $650 million for the State Children's Health Insurance Program, and the first federal minimum wage increase in ten years. I support these measures but cannot support this Emergency Supplemental which will not change\
our course in Iraq."

<snip>
Obama voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater. His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any troop withdrawal!!!!Which if not suspended, still keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come? Also gave in to pressure from the Bush and lobbyists, Obama voted for Bush's energy bill, sending more than $13 billion in subsidies and tax breaks to oil, coal, and nuclear companies. Obama was the Senate's biggest Democratic advocate of subsidies for liquid coal, even though liquid coal produces twice the global warming pollution of the crude oil it's meant to Look at today headlines from AP NEW YORK - Crude oil prices soared to $100 a barrel Wednesday for the first time, reaching that milestone amid an unshakeable view that global demand for oil and petroleum products will outstrip supplies.
Obama is lost in the game of politics we cannto afford to let him learn in the White House!

[frogmarch]

23. This is interesting information. Do you have a link? thx.

[indimuse]

24. here you go.:)

A place to start....but so much NOT being revealed by MSM or anyone for that fact! thx :)

[frogmarch]

25. I don't see a link. Is it just me?

[indimuse]

28. oops..lol..here you really go..

A place to start....but so much NOT being revealed by MSM or anyone for that fact! thx :)

http://creativeyouth.net/obamaliespeopledie.html
http://davidsirota.com/index.php/mr-obama-goes-to-washi ... /

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&ie=UTF-8&rls=WZPA,WZPA:2006-15,WZPA:en&q=Obama+voted+for+war+appropriations+giving+our+money+to+Halliburton+and+Blackwater

last one is long link...copy and paste.

[frogmarch]

29. Got it. Thanks again.

[zulchzulu]

17. From Obama's quote, it looks like Barack hit a grand slam home run

Look for some ads taking down the Hillaryworld glass house soon.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

18. I'm sorry, but I don't understand your title, did you forget a word?

I can't figure out what you're saying

[creeksneakers2]

19. What does Teddy have to say about Obama distorting

Hillary's record?

[anamandujano]

20. Hopefully his conscience will get to him after awhile.

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[Clintonite]

21. No surprise here. Obama has been getting away with this the whole time!

Everyone is scared to set him straight for fear of being labled a racist. Look what happened to Bill! Hopefully the media will wake up and hol their "darling" accountable!

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

26. Obama is desperate

The Rezco stuff is just starting, by the end of this week people will realize he is unelectable.

His change theme is based on lies, He is as corrupt as anyone in Washington

Even if he wins a few States, NOV 25th the trial starts....He is SUNK then.

Democrats best wake up and vote for Hillary!

[Capn Sunshine]

wonk much?

jeese, could you get more obscure ? Is this high school debate club?

[Capn Sunshine]

27. wonk much?

jeese, could you get more obscure ? Is this high school debate club?

[AtomicKitten]

30. Hillary swats flies! Obama tells it like it is!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4299011&mesg_id=4300457

[maximusveritas]

31. Oh please. There's nothing new there.

This is the same back-and-forth they've been having the whole campaign.

[Prefer]

32. OH My - you're even more full of shit than me