Chris Matthews: "I think it was a snub" That means he thinks Obama lied.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Even "I hate Hillary" Chris Matthews calls bullshit on the denial.

[tridim]

1. He also didn't show the series of 4 images that shows exactly what happened.

Wonder why?

[rodeodance]

46. 4 still pics tell all to for you?? ha ha. guess it does not take much.

[BeyondGeography]

2. He does that so when the pro-Hillary forces call for his head he can say, "See?"

[jlake]

25. Gonna have to spin it better than that. D for effort. F for substance.

[BeyondGeography]

30. Who died and made you Dean Hillbot?

[UALRBSofL]

47. It was a minor issue but had teeth on MSM

And Obama teamed up with McKaskil to explain how it wasn't a snub, but it took a lot of explaining to do for damage control.

[ProSense]

3. No snub, that means Matthews is playing you:

Why is Hillary still distorting the facts to claim she was snubbed

[joshcryer]

8. You see what you want in those photos.

The earlier photo where Obama and Ted are looking directly at Clinton as she approached them shows the real truth.

[ProSense]

20. I see this:

[joshcryer]

21. You see what you want.

He turned away before Hillary's hand had even been fully extended. That's quick.

[debatepro]

42. Clair asked him a question...

she was right their when he said Clair asked him a question... so you are saying two US Senator's are lying about this incident... his back is fully turned by the time clinton even reaches her hand out...

Plus hillary hasn't commented on it... don't you think if it was a true snub... they would be spinning it out of control... i do..

[rodeodance]

45. An austic person would have said: Excuse me a minute-do the handshake and THEN

talk to clair. No manners if anything.

[LaurenG]

4. So suddenly Chris Matthews opinion carries weight. Just wait,

he'll switch back and forth until he's made them both look like hell and then he'll quietly endorse McCain. That MF'er supported bush throughout all the lies bush told. I don't listen to Tweester he's a corporate whore and he's playing those of us on left, as usual.

[rodeodance]

44. I will take this one from Dowd: But that answer is disingenuous (I looked away response from obama)

[krkaufman]

59. Exactly! Matthews is suddenly the voice of reason. What a hoot..! n/t

[Occam Bandage]

5. Or rather, "I love ratings" Chris Matthews likes to rattle the cages.

[cali]

6. wow. another thread from the muckster

you are a busy little _______ (fill in the blank)

[Blue-Jay]

9. merkin

[Catherine Vincent]

7. Matthews saw when it happened.

Once Obama and Hillary entered the chambers, all eyes were on them.

[busymom]

12. I do wonder

what happened that wasn't caught by the cameras that time or at other times...simply because a large number of people that were there seemed to be of the impression that something unfriendly happened.

I'm less impressed by that photo though than I am of the one where Kennedy and Edwards are standing behind her and look like they are sneering at her.

I think we'll probably never really know.

[shaniqua6392]

24. That bothered me too.

Also some of the looks Sen. McCaskill was giving Sen. Clinton were horrible. She was also on the plane later with Obama while he was explaining his side of the story and she was just smirking away. Wonder what is in it for her to be such a vicious advocate for him. I guess they all hate each other now and that I find really sad.

[Wesin04]

29. The McCaskill smirk

I saw that and it bothered me a great deal. If you look in the photos above where Obama is supposedly in such an absorbing conversation with her that he had no idea Hillary was there, she's not even looking at him! My respect for her (and I'd donated to her campaign in 06) has dropped quite a few notches.

[shaniqua6392]

31. I have a word for her.

But I can not say it. It rhymes with witch and stitch. LOL. She seems awfully involved and looks at Clinton like she is "the other woman" or something. Really ugly. I noticed that about the photos too. Her eyes are locked right onto Clinton.

[rodeodance]

48. I just know she voted with the Repugs on the FISA bill last week. and i recall getting

irked up about other votes of hers.

[tridim]

13. All eyes, but no video?

Come on. :eyes:

[Catherine Vincent]

15. The SOTU was carried live on all the networks. nt

[tridim]

18. Then where's the video?

Someone must have tivoed it.

[Catherine Vincent]

32. I really don't know.

I've asked that several times. I'm guessing that Fox, MSNBC or CNN doesn't play the video clip because it's owned by cspan or something. The only way to see it is to purchase it from the cspan archives.

[tabatha]

26. Yes, but did he hear Claire Macaskill?

[rinsd]

10. Fuck tweety (rinsd's standard reply to anyone quoting him)

[BeyondGeography]

16. Consistency in such matters is an admirable trait

:thumbsup:

[ErnestoG]

11. Since when do you care about Tweety's opinions?

Oh that's right...you'll support any turd as long as they say something nice about Hillary.

[bunnies]

14. I dont really give a fuck.

Id rather vote for someone who is true to themselves. If he snubbed her, he snubbed her. Good on him. I'd rather someone who is honest than someone acting fake for TV ratings. So there. We all know there is no love loss between the two. But some supporters want to make hay when its convenient. Please.

[leftynyc]

55. How about someone who lies about it?

I agree with you, let him snub her if that's how he feels but then to lie about it - cowardly.

[KennedyGuy]

17. It was a snub..and Obama did lie

Matthews finally got one right..

[emilyg]

33. Yep.

[CyberPieHole]

36. A snub...nothing else. Obama's nasty and mean spirited dark side came through...

as it did when he said Senator Clinton was "likable...enough".

[rodeodance]

49. Read Dowd's editoral from yesterday. She says Obama is scared of Sen. Clinton. it was a HOOT.

[flpoljunkie]

19. This is Tweety you're talking about here-later on he said how can anyone tell whether it was a snub

The man is as mercurial as they come.

[Gloria]

22. Obama looked right over Clinton as she came toward Kennedy

As soon as Kennedy started to move toward her, he turned. It's that first picture that tells me he deliberately moved away from her, before even seeing McCaskill ....

[Kahuna]

41. Your going by a "picture" not a video? You people really do

kill me. Lying Hillary says she offered her hand. Yet there are no videos to show her offering her hand. But keep believing her. Oh yeah. Those tears were real too. :crazy:

[rodeodance]

50. as someone said HOW could anyone NOT look at that Bright RED dress that stood out in the crowd.

[Wesin04]

23. Hillary is easy to spot

She's wearing bright red in a sea of dark suits. In the first frame, Obama couldn't help but see her--if he didn't, he has tunnel vision. He clearly turns a little further away in each frame to avoid having to speak or acknowledge her. Even when she's shaking hands with Ted, he knows she's there and is bound to have heard her voice and Ted's voice. A big man would have faced his opponent. If this is the kind of leader he'd be-one who is unable or unwilling to speak to those he opposes or to bury the hatchet when its for the good of the country-that is not what we need. Shame on him.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

28. She was dressed like a fire engine, he saw her

[rodeodance]

51. YOU BET.

[LittleClarkie]

27. Which personality is Sybil using today?

It's so hard to tell.

[Thrill]

34. Funny people like Matthews when he says something they want to hear

So many hypocrites on this board.

[rodeodance]

53. yeah yeah---Obama needs to buck up.

[CyberPieHole]

35. Obama learned about manners from his mother and father...whomever they might have been...

he seems to have been raised in a barn.

[Kahuna]

39. "Whomever they might have been?" Do do realize that that remark

is blatantly racist, don't you?

[leftynyc]

56. Poor taste - yes, racist???? (eom)

[izzybeans]

37. Come on Chris you're a grown assed man.

[Kahuna]

38. That proves it. Matthews is always wrong. And Hillary is lying through

her yellow teeth. If Hillary reached out to Obama, why are there no pictures or video of it?

[robbedvoter]

40. Please! Let's not use Tweety's opinion for anything and let go of this incident already!

[rodeodance]

43. This says it best: "Uncle Teddy can’t fight all his fights"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/opinion/30dowd.html?_r=1&th=&oref=slogin&emc=th&pagewanted=print

It would have been the natural thing for the Illinois senator, only hours after his emotional embrace by the Kennedys and an arena full of deliriously shrieking students, to follow the lead of Uncle Teddy and greet the rebuffed Hillary.

She was impossible to miss in the sea of dark suits and Supreme Court dark robes. Like Scarlett O’Hara after a public humiliation, Hillary showed up at the gathering wearing a defiant shade of red.

But the fact that he didn’t do so shows that Obama cannot hide how much the Clintons rattle him, and that he is still taking the race very personally.

On a flight to Kansas yesterday to collect another big endorsement, this one from Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, Obama said he was “surprised” by reports of The Snub.

“I was turning away because Claire asked me a question as Senator Kennedy was reaching forward,” he said. “Senator Clinton and I have had very cordial relations off the floor and on the floor. I waved at her as I was coming into the Senate chamber before we walked over last night. I think there is just a lot more tea leaf reading going on here than I think people are suggesting.”

But that answer is disingenuous. Their relations have been frosty and fraught ever since the young Chicago prince challenged Queen Hillary’s royal proclamation that it was her turn to rule.

………….
Given her brazen quote to ABC News, Obama is right to be scared of Hillary. He just needs to learn that Uncle Teddy can’t fight all his fights, and that a little chivalry goes a long way.

[NYCGirl]

52. So we like Maureen Dowd now? NT

[vssmith]

54. The media does the public a disservice

Matthews goes on and on about this peripheral trivial bullshit. He is not the only dispenser of meaningless crap. Meanwhile the public would benefit knowing more about the candidates positions on global warming, energy policy etc. But of course that is not sexy.

[smoogatz]

57. Stupidest. Post. Ever.

Congratulations.

[JAbuchan08]

58. Oh, yeah he has so much credibility when he talks about Obama

all because he hates hillary :eyes: