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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:49 PM
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Will a major candidate ever run on poverty or anti-corporatism again?
The primaries showed Democrats don't give a damn about poverty anymore and that anti-corporatism cripples you financially and results in a (corporate) media blackout. So will anyone run on these things again after seeing what happened to Edwards?
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:51 PM
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1. I call BS. When corporate media gives a damn as much as Democrats do, that candidate will win. (nt)
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:52 PM
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2. When the waters rise and half the country is homeless,
it will be the ONLY viable platform.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:52 PM
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3. You're making a really big assumption, though...
that it was Edwards' anti-poverty message that cost him the election. I don't think that's necessarily true.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:53 PM
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5. It's more fun for his supporters to generalize though.
Even thought the assumption is inaccurate.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:02 PM
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10. It was what made him cast as a "lesser" candidate
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:02 PM by Armstead
In a nuitshell, Edwards is no more of a hypocrite than any otehr major candidate, in terms of "living large."

However, the fact that he dared to actually confront the truth about Wealth and Power made the media and his opponents raise his lifestyle to an issue of "hypocracy."

They raise the bar too much for a mortal politician to reach.

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:05 PM
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13. Everyone who runs for president is rich
What the corportracy has done is force candidates to ignore these issues because they will swiftboat any candidate who does as a fraud.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:02 PM
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11. Look at the "messages" that did well
One has a message that is just a slogan and the other has no identifiable message as far as issues are concerned. The politically expedient thing would be to run as vague as possible and be all things to all people, thereby maximizing your base.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:53 PM
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4. MSM decides the issues/candidates. It's called "electability" and it's code for
"well tell you whom to vote for"
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:55 PM
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6. maybe it shows people didn't believe him
it's possible a more convincing candidate will run on with a similar message.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:58 PM
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7. Only when voters stop rewarding complicity/corruption with votes.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:59 PM
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8. The people of the U S A have been conditioned to vote and go
against their own best interests, from cradle to grave.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:00 PM
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9. I think the problem was the messenger, not the message.
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Traps Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:05 PM
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12. Poverty
In South Africa the ANC (majority party 70%) had it's own primary at Polokwane in December.

Jacob Zuma on a platform of poverty and the ANC's failure to address it properly ousted the sitting president Thabo Mbeki for the party presidency.

Which made the refusal by John Minto to accept an award (later turned out it hadn't been offered in the first place) more puzzling.

http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/01/28/apostasy-borne-of-hubris-the-john-minto-story/

Incredibly he alleged that blacks were better off under white rule than now because of the poverty levels. (Obviously without making any effort to check up on the true position).

Poverty and anti-corporatism may well feature sooner than you think ; Globalisation is shredding boundaries and invading privacy without any tangible relief to those below the poverty line.

It's a timebomb waiting to happen.
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