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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:38 AM
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I bet the freepers are laughing at us
Look at all these posts!! They're probably having a field day!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:39 AM
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1. We're laughing at them too
Apparently they are self-destructing over having that "liberal" McCain win Florida.


We're not so special :evilgrin:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:39 AM
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2. I care not one whit what they think...
:thumbsdown:
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:40 AM
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3. They're still too busy crying into their beer over Fred Thompson.
Morans...
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:41 AM
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4. Who gives a rodent's rectum what they think in knuckle dragger land?
Besides most of them can't read anyway.
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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:01 AM
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16. You would be surprised
This forum actually has more one-liners with nothing but chat and slogans and/or graphics which contribute nothing to actual discussion. FR signal-to-noise ratio is somewhat better, maybe 50% higher than DU, I think due to posting requirements and moderating style.

Gotta remember, the people you condemn so easily online may be your neighbors, co-workers, and distant relations. Take away the political discourse and you would never know the difference. This is part of why I find it such bad business sense when celebrities who depend on public purchase of their performances (ticket sales) talk politics - they automatically PO half their market, no matter what their views.

It is easy to balkanize online, but aside from political views, members of both forums live in the same country, shop at the same stores (for mainly chinese-made goods in many products now), and **pay the same taxes**.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:17 AM
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23. This forum also has a lot more action than FR, CU...
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:20 AM by JackBeck
or any other echo chamber y'all decide to create to engage in a circle jerk DU bukake.

Our community shares information that is based in reality. Winger sites spread propaganda. The only ones that refuse to accept most everyday reality are conservatives. I'd love for your small majority to finally join us is the real world.
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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:27 AM
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26. I think your comments reflect on you more than anything else
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:28 AM by ArfDogMNO
Politics is perceptual in that 2 otherwise normal, compatible, amiable people can have completely different views on how they should be ruled.

Once you start taking the differences seriously and forget you are dealing real people, it is hard to take the bread and circuses we are given on the 'Who Rules the US Next' multi-month traveling comedy show for what it is - a power grab by people who have no interest in any of us.


edit - sorry if I sound cynical, but I believe my viewpoint more accurately reflects reality than any party-based ideological claim.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:47 AM
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32. Politics is not about perception when you deal with facts.
It's not one against another, but about what most research shows.

I could list many examples...
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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:56 AM
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34. and opponents can show more examples, etc. Research is always for hire if someone pays for it.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:57 AM by ArfDogMNO
Confusing ourselves with the people actually playing the game is a huge error. We are thrown political, ideological, and motivational scraps to help the candidates try to take power, but in the end voters never even get a choice on the vast bulk of policy, from the start of the primary process to the end.

The only constant fact in politics is that all participants are dirty, and most are hopelessly corrupt (Hsu? this should have alarm bells screaming from anyone who follows the infiltration of foreign money into our political system). It is the nature of the beast, both in terms of historical use of positions of power for self-enrichment and in human nature itself.

Meet the new boss, same as the old one...

edit - btw, thanks for your repeated replies. I am not getting much actual debate tonight :/
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:41 AM
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5. They are too worried over McCain winning Florida...
to concern themselves with us.
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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:03 AM
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18. McCain being the nominee is actually bad news for Clinton IMHO
Neither is a good public speaker, but McCain is for some reason quite popular with independents, and there is a segment of the party that detests him but that will vote for him just because of who he is running against.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:14 AM
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22. The Freepers don't see it that way. n/t.
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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:23 AM
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24. depends where you read. some are discussing this very issue.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:23 AM by ArfDogMNO
I do think the mccain win/giuliani endorsement is causing quite a bit of surprise.

Also, what the DU or FR communities think is usually a good bit more informed than the general voting population. McCain is actually more popular nationally than on FR I suspect.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:29 AM
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27. Can't wait for a McCain nomination.
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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:31 AM
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28. LOL the only republican member of the keating five, and IIRC
the only one still in office. This is among the things knowledgeable online posters are baffled by - McCain's baggage is immense.

One can see why active message-board participants at FR are disheartened.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:39 AM
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29. Just wait 'til Fred endorses McCain...
What fun times lurking in Freeperville will be then!
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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:42 AM
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30. I have wondered if he would be a McCain VP pick
if the guy was amenable, this would be a bone thrown to conservatives in light of McCain's age.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:53 AM
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33. Fred's no spring chicken...
and has cancer in remission.

He was planning on being a puppet like Reagan had he got the chance at the Presidency.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:41 AM
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6. Here is a picture of their mascot, "Freepus":


He is their hero.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:42 AM
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7. So?
:shrug:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:42 AM
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8. They are going nuts
Look at this in a thread about McCain's win:

To: jdm
I will boycott the GOP convention!!

Conservatives created the Republican party in the last 20 years. What we created we have the right to destroy. It's our party to do as we wish!

Give the Dems the Presidency for 4 years. Who cares? Fight them in Congress. But NEVER surrender the party to the likes of McCain, and homos like Giuliani and Crist. That is WORSE than giving the Dems the Presidency. Worse is to give the enemy the satisfaction that they earned the Presidency. Worse is to surrender the party to liberals and fight under them.

I call for conservatives to conduct a scorch earth policy and destroy the party. Purge the party of liberals, and in 4 years, a stronger conservative party will emerge from the ashes.

No surrender! No retreat!

:rofl:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:44 AM
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9. Thompson's out. They've returned to getting head from their sisters.
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iris5426 Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:08 AM
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35. ...
:rofl:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:46 AM
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10. Who can blame them?
This place has become a fucking cesspool.
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thatsrightimirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:48 AM
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11. When the conservative movement backs Romney
You know you're in deep shit
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:50 AM
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13. ....
:rofl:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:49 AM
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12. No, they're not at all.
Have you seen FreeRepublic? They're imploding!
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:53 AM
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14. They're not the only ones.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 12:59 AM by JackBeck
The whole "conservative" and "right-wing movement/family values" contingent is imploding and will finally go away and become irrelevant.

Dubya was their moment to impose their agenda on us. And they failed.

Not only did they fail, their existence was barely validated by the Bush administration.

It's over. WE'VE TOLERATED THEM...so let's now move on...mmmm'kay?
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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:09 AM
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20. agreed
"The whole "conservative" and "right-wing movement/family values" contingent is imploding and will finally go away and become irrelevant."

It is a minority of the GOP for sure, at least in terms of raising money, though the amount of money Ron Paul raised should be a warning to the country as a whole that the majority of the functioning of the US Government, behavior and policy, is not being discussed or questioned by anyone. I was amazed at his fundraising in the 4th quarter simply in terms of the number of people his message was resonating with.

What activists in both parties (and everywhere else) need to catch onto is that both parties are promoting globalist candidates - candidates that will support unrestricted free trade, and pretty much rubberstamp US multinational policies and goals - WHICH ARE NOT NECESSARILY IN THE INTERESTS OF US TAXPAYERS AND OTHER CITIZENS. They throw us some fig leaves on social policy differences, but at this point whoever is elected will be quite acceptable to the Fortune 500.

DNC and GOP are a duopoly with a common core - big business.

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:55 AM
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15. At us or with us?
I think there's more freepers infested in this place than in all of freeperville.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:01 AM
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17. We have all the $$$. It has to be freaking them out. Plus they get to choose
between a Mormon and a guy who likes Immigrants.

We have three ideologically sound candidates any one of which would be acceptable to the majority of people here. And lots of $$$.

:rofl:
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:06 AM
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19. The "fighting" this primary is nothing compared to previous elections
when the major candidates actually had different platforms and ideologies. We basically have three candidates who are all going to do the same things, they are just a little bit different.

The difference between Obama and Edwards is nothing like the difference between Udall and Scoop Jackson, for instance, or McCarthy and Wallace. Those were messed up Democratic primaries back in those days. They were all over the map. Before all the neaderthal moved to the Republican Party.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:12 AM
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21. The Dems have re-energized the GOP.
It's not just the freepi laughing.

:grr:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:24 AM
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25. they are too busy attacking McCain
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:47 AM
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31. Most of the Freepers are here on DU.
And they think they are being so clever! "Hill-Billy".
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:12 AM
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36. They're not laughing at us
they're laughing with us! Haven't you noticed?
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:13 AM
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37. Here is what the Freepers are doing...
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