If Howard Dean is so smart...

[swoop]

...why didn't he foresee the problems leaving MI and FL out of the primaries would bring and do something about it in advance?

[billbuckhead]

1. He wanted to hurt Hillary, voters be damned!

[cali]

10. that's just ridiculous

Howard Dean does not want to hurt Hillary. And it's not voters be damned. He runs a large organization and he can't have states agree to something and then just decide to smash the whole primary schedule because they want to go before other states.

Dean has been scrupulously fair about not favoring any candidate.

[TheFarseer]

18. you really think Hillary would do well in Michigan

with a real campaign? Think about all those black voters in Detroit. Then think about all those auto workers who had their jobs outsourced because of Hillary's friends. Yeah, it's prime Hillary country :eyes:

[ErnestoG]

2. Hard to do with Hillary sticking her foot out to trip him at every move

Howard Dean has the most thankless job in the political world. He wins the Congress back for Democratic control, and not so much as a "fuck you very much" by the ossified old DLC sourpusses.

Well, thank you Howard. And DLC dinobones...fuck you.

[jackson_dem]

6. Rahm hates Hillary, loves Obama

[LordJFT]

11. he clearly doesn't hate hillary since he endorsed her before obama entered the race

before taking it back and declaring neutrality. He also worked in the Clinton administration. Also this is about Dean not Rahm.

[jackson_dem]

16. Hillary wanted to fire him when he worked in the Clinton WH!

He jumped on the bandwagon when she looked inevitable. As soon he had a chance to get off he did.

[jasmine621]

21. And rightly so. He was one of those insiders who wanted to do Bill in.

He is the ultimate sleazeball to me. George Steph, Dick Morris, Rahm...all small-minded men with weanie envy.

[Coexist]

13. I thought he already endorsed Clinton???

http://www.votehillary.org/CMS/node/383

DCCC CHAIR RAHM EMANUEL ENDORSES SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT

Chicago, IL – Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel (D) endorsed Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton for President in 2008 last night while appearing on Bill Maher’s HBO show “Real Time.”

TV show host Bill Maher asked: “Who do you want to be the candidate in 2008 for the Democratic Party… who would have the best chance of winning the White House back?”

Rep. Emanuel replied “I’m supporting Hillary Clinton. I’m public about it.” Congressman Emanuel’s comments were met with a cheering audience.

[LordJFT]

22. he rescinded it when obama entered

[massromantic]

3. I think in Michigan

It was because Howard Dean has an aversion to states that are shaped like mittens.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

4. A better question would be

Why did the Democratic party in those two states push the issue to the point where their votes didn't count? Were they just playing a big game of chicken, hoping Dean would flinch?

I think it's a travesty for the voters of those states, but I can really only blame the parties who insisted on going against DNC rules.

[Terry_M]

5. .... Why are people blaming Dean

Instead of the party morons that tried to move the primary up KNOWING THAT the DNC ALREADY THREATENED TO REMOVE THEIR DELEGATES IF THEY DID. Jeez, you tell em something bad will happen if they step over the line... They step over the line... And you go after the person that told them not to step over the line?

[cobalt1999]

7. Dean screwed the pooch on this one.

Luckily it's during a year where the democrats have an easy win or this would have been devastating.

[KittyWampus]

12. NO, that would be Clinton crony, Terry McAuliffe who set this up. Blame him.

[cobalt1999]

20. They may have set it up, but he stepped in it.

There is plenty of blame all around in this one.

[MonkeyFunk]

8. both sides bluffed

and both sides called the bluff.

[swoop]

14. Yes.

Maybe that's it. Helluva game though...

[iamjoy]

9. The Whole Thing Is Stupider Than Hell

Why do state parties and the DNC agree to rules for primaries when it is the state legislatures who set them? Can anyone explain that?

It's a dumbass process from the beginning if you ask me.


:mad:

[EffieBlack]

15. State legislatures set the date for statewide elections

but the parties can choose their delegates through whatever process they wish. Most do it through the statewide election, some do it through caucuses. The party can completely skip the statewide primary election and pick its delegates with a dartboard, if they so choose.

[K Gardner]

17. I don't think *anyone* could have foreseen the depths to which Billary would stoop. It continues to

defy imagination that these ruthless and divisive people of little/no integrity are running for the highest office in the land.

[Eric J in MN]

19. Why does breaking rules have consquences?

Because that's the only way to enforce rules.