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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:49 PM
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Remember it's not just FL delegates Hillary says she will work to seat, it's MI where she was only
one of the top contenders on the ballot.

The Clintons are seeking to change the rules in the middle of the primary game. Pure Clintonian!
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:51 PM
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1. And her supporters get so upset when we say she will do anything to win. n/t
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:54 PM
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2. Here's Hillary's statement
"I believe our nominee will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in these states to win the general election, and so I will ask my Democratic convention delegates to support seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan. I know not all of my delegates will do so and I fully respect that decision. But I hope to be President of all 50 states and U.S. territories, and that we have all 50 states represented and counted at the Democratic convention"

Notice she says convention. Which people have been talking about for months the delegates at FL & MI ultimately being seated provided they were not the difference makers.

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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:58 PM
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7. if she lost michigan
she wouldn't be suggesting their vote should count. fact!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:55 PM
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3. Hillary is not seating them before the nomination, nor is she saying she will do so (because she...
...simply can't.) She's urging others to vote for seating them, knowing that in the event that they are in contention, the other parties will not do so.

She is preempting their attempt to disenfranshise voters.

This is ALL within the PROCESS. It BREAKS NO RULES.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:10 PM
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9. Do you really have no idea of what you are talking about?
The convention is where the nomination takes place. She wants them seated because she is the only one who broke the ban on campaigning and getting her name on those ballots. If they are seated (Definition: presence at the convention so they may vote on the nomination) then she gets an automatic boost over those who played by the rules and did NOT campaign nor placed their names on the FL and MN ballots.

If the delegats from those states show, which they are welcome to do, their votes will NOT be counted. They may have seats in the room, but they will not be 'seated' in the convention. That is the penalty on them, by the Democratic National Committee, for violating the rules which they had already agreed to. If they didn't like their ranking in the primaries, they should have challenged them before the schedule was set.

You don't walk onto the baseball diamond after the first pitch and demand that your team get 4 strikes instead of 3.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:56 PM
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4. Please stop these outright lies.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:57 PM
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5. It's a smarmy tactic because neither Edwards nor Obama's names were counted - even write-ins!
Everyone who wrote-in "Obama" or "Edwards" were RE-SLOTTED to the "uncommitted" category.

The Smramy Tactics of The Clintons' campaigning hopefully will soon blow-up in their shameless faces. :thumbsdown:

The American People are SICK of all this low level petty "dirty tricks" bull-shit. :(
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:57 PM
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6. My county preferred "uncommitted" over triangulating Hillary
Everyone I have talked to sees Hillarys newfound appreciation of MI as a 100% political move, purely because it is in her own best interests. She didn't give a crap about us until she thought she needed us.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:05 PM
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8. Hillary is seeking to make MI & FL voters feel that the party really needs them.
I applaud her on this.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:14 PM
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10. Wrong. It is SHE that needs them.
If she had won Iowa and NH by the margins predicted, she'd be standing firmly by the side of Obama and Edwards in decrying the anti-party-unity move by FL and MI. She's scared, so she's trying to grab for cheap votes.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:18 PM
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11. Serious Question: Will SUPER Delegates be seated?
You know, those State elected officials of both states who actually created this shit-storm? Will THEY also be punished, or is that just reserved for those who represent the peons of this nation - the voters? I seriously would like an answer to this question, as well as how can I find out who these SUPER Delegates actually are.
Thank you to whoever ca give me this answer.
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