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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:43 PM
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The John Edwards Campaign for President is over Courteousy of David Bonior
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 02:43 PM by hnmnf
No joke guys. On MSNBC he just said that if you want Al Gore to be President, you better start thinking about voting for Edwards. To see one of the big dogs in the campaign come out in the public and basically argue for Edwards not to be President but to be the kingmaker for an Al Gore presidency...thats big. Personally I think he should never of said this.


I'll try to find video of it later in the night, but I just saw him interview on MSNBC.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:43 PM
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1. I don't understand - what did I miss? n/t
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:44 PM
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2. Oh, bull. It's not over.
I'll be seeing him this evening with a whole bunch of other people. It's not over until he says it's over.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:46 PM
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6. Bonior is his campaign manager. He may have been speaking off message.
but it def appeared like he was advocating for an Al Gore Presidency, so people can vote for Edwards so we can have a brokered convention.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:45 PM
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3. I don't understand either...
it makes no sense to me.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:45 PM
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4. Compost.
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 02:46 PM by Cleita
I don't care what any of these blowhards have to say. btw Al Gore has repeated over and over that he's not running.
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poppysgal Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:45 PM
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5. Talk to the hand
because the face isn't listening. Go John, go, we are all cheering for you.
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:23 PM
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13. I'm not n/t
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:46 PM
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7. which is one of the reasons why
my wife and I, big Edwards fans switched our votes today over to Obama. He hasn't won and their campaign said they didn't expect top win ANY primaries-they are not playing to win-Obama is and for us it's anybody (who can win) BUT HRC
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:46 PM
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8. Does Edwards pay him to be that stupid, or is that just a bonus?
Vote for my guy (who hasnt got a prayer) if you really want this other guy.

lol
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Corkey Mineola Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:46 PM
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9. If Edwards remains viable until Denver then Gore could be drafted (in response to 'lost guy')
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 02:48 PM by publichealthnut1
Edwards' viability at the convention would signify that the nomination wasn't locked.

But I think it will be by then. Esp.. with this super-delegate crap.


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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:46 PM
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18. I think that is a very real possibility.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:48 PM
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10. Very clumsy way of trying to say Edwards is the closest to Al
Gore.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:06 PM
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12. I think that's exactly what he was saying, though inartfully.
If you want the closest thing to Gore, vote for Edwards.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:44 PM
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17. The regular viewers probably understood that meaning...
talk of brokered conventions and our delegate system aren't understood by most people, so the easiest explanation here is probably what he meant and what conveyed.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:00 PM
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23. I was listening but not intently and it sounded like he was comparing
Edwards to Gore. Not saying that Gore should or could get in the race. Since I am an Edwards fan this sounded nice and positive but not headline news. Someone might find a transcript if this is really important.
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publicatlarge Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:02 PM
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11. Brokered Convention
..may give us Gore/Edwards 2008. This is an unusual development. That Bonior would actually make this statement going in to Super Tuesday.

hmmmmm.....

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:48 PM
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19. not a chance
there won't be a brokered convention, and there are more super delgates than Edwards can possibly get- and they aren't going to go against the votes of millions and millions of dems.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:05 PM
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14. so what?
That would be a true statement. A brokered convention would be the only way that Gore could be the nominee, and Edwards' success - if he doesn't actually win the nomination - would make a brokered convention more likely. Those are all true statements, and Bonior saying them is not the same as Bonior advocating for them. What was the question he was responding to? We would need the context and the actual quote to assess the validity of your interpretation of what this means.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:16 PM
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15. Sounds like they're looking for Gore supporters to vote for Edwards
Kind of a neat trick.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:51 PM
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21. Yup. Gore had about 15% support. It is smart to go after them
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Mr_King Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:34 PM
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16. Wow you've managed to misinform everybody who responded to this post.
I saw the exact same interview Bonior did on MSNBC and said nothing like that. HE DID NOT ARGUE "for Edwards not to be President but to be the kingmaker for an Al Gore presidency" OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

First why would Edwards invest all this time and energy just to make Al Gore or anybody else President? What has Al Gore done for John Edwards for Edwards to do something like this for Gore? Edwards also has no way of knowing Gore would even go along with something like this. Let's not forget Gore chose Joe Lieberman as his running mate in 2000 over John Edwards. You think Edwards has forgotten that? Gore endorsed Howard Dean over John Edwards in 2004. You think Edwards has forgotten that?

All Bonior was saying/implying is for all the "Draft Al Gore" folks who aren't supporting anybody right now out of hope that Gore will get in late or will be drafted, look at Edwards and where Edwards stands on the issues and put them side by side where Gore stands and support him in the primaries. That's it and that all.

I mean look at the source folks...an Obama supporter is the one posting this. Maybe because these are the same folks begging Edwards to drop out because THEY believe that all of the Edwards supporters would support Obama over Clinton.

Don't buy the hype guys, and look at the interview yourself before making a judgement on what Bonior said. Of course he has yet to post a link to the Bonior MSNBC interview to back up his claims.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:50 PM
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20. You saw it. What did he actually say?
:shrug:
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publicatlarge Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:55 PM
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22. What exactly did Bonior say...n/t
Curious minds and all that. Would be nice to be able to assess the comments ourselves.

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Mr_King Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 07:06 PM
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25. What he basically said was...
That if you are a Gore supporter you should look at where Edwards stands on issues like the environment and that Edwards' views on how to fight global warming are the same as Al Gore's. He was trying to convince people that Edwards is more in line with Al Gore on the issues than Clinton and Obama are. Bonior was only trying to court Gore supporters to vote for and support John Edwards.
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PerpetuallyDazed Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:33 PM
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24. Does this mean Edwards supporters are more likely to vote for Gore?? I don't understand!
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 06:36 PM by PerpetuallyDazed
Oh wait, I see... Obamanity strikes again. Thanks for the misinformation, pal.
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