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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 01:48 AM
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Do you think that Kerry is Dour?
He does take a serious stance on things. But they are casting him in the same light as Al Gore. Your thoughts.
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 01:55 AM
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1. But Kerry has the countenance of a "concerned Uncle" to
Al Gore's "vacuum salesman". Many voters wanted badly to vote for Gore, but were ultimately unconvinced.

By the way, when I read the title of the thread I thought you asked "Do you think that Kerry is a DUer?" I certainly hope he isn't: the Repugs would say "Look! He hasn't been present for roll calls because he's reading about remote control airplanes hitting the Pentagon!"
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ordentros Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 02:15 AM
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2. no, just not transparent

many told me they voted for edwards because they couldn't figure out why Kerry voted the way he did.

if you are a republican, I don't think you are going to fall for liberal trappings.

Kerry will move to the right to pick up repubs and we'll see if the left sticks with him, or goes Nader.
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Newcastle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 02:18 AM
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5. For heaven's sake!
How much further to the right does he have to move? If he does move even further, he's lost me. I hope that calculation - which has never actually worked before - works this time. Republicans always vote for Republicans, while Democratic candidates always run as if they're courting these Republican voters who don't vote for them anyway. Now that's a winning strategy! No wonder the Democrats trounced the Republicans in 2000 and 2002!
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eileen from OH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 02:17 AM
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3. I hope not
but then again, while I voted and liked Al-Gore-The-Candidate, I absolutely LOVE Al-The-Former-Candidate.

I'm a-scairt that Kerry will be,like Gore-the-Candidate, afraid to take issues head on and afraid to give a goddam "yes or no" answer to questions, and instead will weigh every goddam word so as not to offend any potential voter and indulge in 5 minute answers. Hell, yes, most of the important issues demand at least this much time. But Kerry needs to develop the sound byte answer, the ability to condense and quip.

This is my major worry about Kerry-The-Nominee - that by not being himself, and by trying to be all things to all people, his message will be muddled and he will be unable to distinguish himself in a debate.

It ain't the "dour" that troubles me, it's the "5 minute dour" that does.

eileen from OH
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:06 AM
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8. exactly---it's why I don't have a lot of confidence in voting for Kerry
in November.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 09:23 AM
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14. Or is he just beng himself?
This is my major worry about Kerry-The-Nominee - that by not being himself, and by trying to be all things to all people, his message will be muddled and he will be unable to distinguish himself in a debate.

After being in Washington as long as Kerry has, I think this may be John Kerry, even if it wasn't originally. A waffler, afraid to speak his mind in committing sound bites.
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Daisey Mae Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 02:18 AM
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4. I think dour ...is an un nice way of saying serious.....
HE JUST IS NOT DOPEY LIKE W so they say he is dour......
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 02:23 AM
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6. Dour? I wouldn't say that -
but I wouldn't compare him with Al Gore in any fashion other than the fact that they are both men. Dour? No. But if I were a kid, he would scare me.
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silver state d Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 03:44 AM
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7. stern, serious, dour... he is a serious guy but
that will have appeal this year tis time fer the grown up to take charge.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:55 AM
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10. Kids adore him
People sure don't know who John Kerry is.





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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 08:51 AM
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11. Kids are drawn to him - - - thanks for those pictures
I was impressed in Iowa how comfortable kids were with him and how genuine he was around them.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 09:16 AM
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12. A photo op proves nothing.
I recall plenty of photos of George W. Bush with children.

Some of these children may well become fodder for warmongers like Kerry.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:23 AM
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9. Serious yes but
Kerry has much more fire and fight in him than Gore had.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 09:19 AM
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13. Gore's fire... never appeared
for mass consumption.. until he reemerged after 2000 at the 2002 Florida Democratic Convention. I think that the reemerged Gore would have done much better in 2000.

I find Kerry very serious. But not as stilted in speech as Gore. I don't know that I would call him firey - but very firm (with fire periodically emerging.) And yes, his campaign shows much more (frequency and effectiveness) fight than that of Gore's in 2000.
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