Women's group slams Kennedy for 'betrayal'

[goldcanyonaz]

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy is under heavy fire from a state chapter of the National Organization for Women for his decision to back Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton.

In a sharply critical statement, the New York state chapter of NOW took aim at Kennedy Monday for what it called an "ultimate betrayal," and suggested the Massachusetts Democrat "can't or won't" handle the idea of Clinton becoming President of the United States.

"Sen. Kennedy’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton’s opponent in the Democratic presidential primary campaign has really hit women hard," said the statement. "Women have forgiven Kennedy, stuck up for him, stood by him, hushed the fact that he was late in his support of Title IX, the ERA, the Family Leave and Medical Act to name a few."

"And now the greatest betrayal! We are repaid with his abandonment!" the statement continues. "He’s picked the new guy over us. He’s joined the list of progressive white men who can’t or won’t handle the prospect of a woman president who is Hillary Clinton."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/28/womens-group-slams-kennedy-for-betrayal/

[Windy]

1. That was a disgusting piece of editorialized smut. NOW should be ashamed.

We women are entitled to our own opinions and our own vote and just because Hillary is a woman does NOT mean that she is the most qualified or best candidate for the issues we face today. I wish she was, but she's not.

[Flabbergasted]

38. NOW's Response to Sen. Kennedy's Endorsement

NOW's Response to Sen. Kennedy's Endorsement

Statement of NOW President Kim Gandy

January 28, 2008

The National Organization for Women has enormous respect and admiration for Sen. Edward Kennedy (D- Mass.). For decades Sen. Kennedy has been a friend of NOW, and a leader and fighter for women's civil and reproductive rights, and his record shows that.

Though the National Organization for Women Political Action Committee has proudly endorsed Sen. Hillary Clinton for president, we respect Sen. Kennedy's endorsement. We continue to encourage women everywhere to express their opinions and exercise their right to vote.



http://www.now.org/press/01-08/01-28.html

[aquart]

44. Because, if they're right, what are you?

I understand. Women's rights are not a priority for you. There's the war, the economy, hope for mankind. Proving you're not a racist.

Lotta big priorities that take precedence.

It's a good thing that you ally yourself with the people who call women "old bats."

Keep that hope and faith, you hear?

[JAbuchan08]

109. cuz the war, the economy and hope for mankind don't way much against

ONE woman's right to be president. Emphasis on ONE.

Millions of women and children (and yes, even those slimy creatures known as men) are effected by those "big priorities" which you diminish.

Which is more important to women, the symbolic change of having one of their own in office or the actual change of an improvement in their lives.

I'm not saying that we have to choose, neither am I saying that we won't, but it seems to me that if you had to make the choice you would choose the former.

It seems to me that this OP represents the thinking that Hillary's individual achievement is a stand in for the advancement of ALL people toward equality.

[Chulanowa]

133. And is Obama against women's rights?

And Clinton should be favored and elected only on account of her gender? That is exactly what you're saying, you realize? That Ted Kennedy should give his support to Clinton not because of her positions, her record, her achievements and her abilities, but because of her gender, and her gender alone.

What a fucking odd position for someone to take and then call someone else sexist.

[thoughtcrime1984]

2. The grapes are sour

Poor NOW.

[Bluebear]

122. Says the recently joined male member. What you got against NOW?

[LSparkle]

3. The important words are "... who is Hillary Clinton"

I am all in favor of a woman becoming president. Barbara Boxer would suit me fine. Even Jane Harman strikes me as a take-charge, strong-on-national-defense figure. As a feminist, I find it somewhat insulting that the first serious woman candidate for President had to serve a term as First Lady to earn that very viability. I'm ready for a woman -- just not THAT woman.

[joshcryer]

7. So her status as a US Senator doesn't count?

[aquart]

20. Nope. But read on.

Remember the accusation that she only became senator of NY because of Bill?

How did Massachusetts' Bobby Kennedy become senator of NY?

[aquart]

14. And yet they have not attempted it.

So you are very safe in knowing that push will never come to shove.

I honor the one with the guts to DO it. To put up with the unending spew, the self-righteous vilification of a woman who has worked hard her entire adult life for the betterment of women and children in this country.

Be comfortable. You will never have to put your money where your mouth is for the women you deem acceptable. (As long as they're not running.)Not after this.

But you've named women you would vote for as president. So you don't have to feel like a complete hypocrite. Just as you don't have to vote for Barbara Boxer if you don't choose to.

[goldcanyonaz]

27. Bravo Aquart, Bravo!

[Samantha]

39. Right, Barbara Boxer would be a great 2nd for 2008

I can see that now.

I too think it's incredibly sexist for any female to suggest I as a woman should support someone for President of the United States because of her gender. I just really can't get over it. To me the decision rests on the issues, and I do not agree with Hillary's positions on several things. It's been this way since she became a "professional politician." I have said for at least two years I would not vote for her if she ran for POTUS, and for someone to suggest I should do just that is incredible.

Barbara Boxer I would strongly support as Obama's running mate because she has put herself out there when other Dems refused to do so. I also find myself agreeing with her often when she makes public statements on various issues. I am totally in sync with Barbara Boxer, and I would wholeheartedly support her.

[skater314159]

81. PING!

I enjoyed your excellent expression of what I feel. Thanks for putting my thoughts into words.

And I am sick of being told that I "hate fellow GLBT"ers or am not a "real woman" because I support Obama instead of Hillary. As far as I am concerned, I have a hard time supporting the people who put us into Iraq... but I believe in forgiveness and saying you messed up. What I CANNOT support is ANYONE who says that torture is OK in ANY circumstance!

I like Obama-Boxer! That is an awesome idea! I could really support that ticket.

[aquart]

4. They noticed.

[chascarrillo]

10. Go away.

You aren't wanted.

[libbygurl]

19. Sez who? nt

[aquart]

28. Democracy a BIG problem for you?

Diversity of opinion a BIG problem for you?

"Unity" means everybody worships Obama to you?

Life is gonna hit you hard.

[chascarrillo]

41. No, assholes are a big problem for me.

nt

[DURHAM D]

47. Why don't you just put your p...

Self edit - I was giving you too much credit.

[graywarrior]

5. Oy.

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[goldcanyonaz]

11. Old bats? Typical.

[0007]

32. Typical old bats and their sour grapes, 'eh?

[skater314159]

12. What?!?!

:wow:
You mean he doesn't have his ear close to the screechings of the women's studies departments?

FORSOOTH!!


:hide:

[goldcanyonaz]

15. Nope, he's to drunk to do that.

[Tellurian]

I'm sure at times he is.. his failing comes from listening to a woman, his niece, Caroline

She has been bending his ear..because her children whined about Obama. "He's just like Grandpa." "He says, all the same things Grandpa did". Teddy has been pressured and unknowingly duped by his niece and her children..it says so right in the endorsement video, when Caroline speaks.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22873162/

And I'll go further to say, if John JR had been alive, he NEVER would have been duped by this 'media creation'. Anybody here think Caroline or her kids bear an iota of "street sense"? Caroline and now I'm guessing Ethel, have succumbed to the same pressure from their college age kids and grand kids... 'The Obama Myth'..a Grimm Fairytale!

[skater314159]

48. Huh? I see, IRISH CATHOLIC slur.

Oh wait, you're a feminist. It's just you HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOUR!

[aquart]

30. "Old bats"???????

Obama supporters: the sexist scum of the earth.

[goldcanyonaz]

36. Yep, but misogyny is celebrated around here.

[libbygurl]

46. 'Old bats'?! Indeed, sexism is alive and kicking even on DU, and deemed wholly...

...acceptable to most.

[cd3dem]

98. don't you know a prerequisite for the presidency is a penis!

[xmas74]

114. It's one of the reasons why I took an eight

week break from here last year. I was sick and tired of cringing over the comments.

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[libbygurl]

50. Not your typically better behaved Edwards supporter, you are, however.

So easy to resort to base, insulting name-calling. But that's par for the course for the anti-Clinton brigade, hey?

[skater314159]

56. And for the pro-Clintonites too.

See your cohorts up thread honey.

Shouldn't throw stones at others' glass houses.

[libbygurl]

63. Yes? So when did I call anyone names here? And I only referred to YOU, sir/ma'am...

...and no one else.

[skater314159]

84. Me? Or 0007?

You're so frothing at the mouth, you don't even know who you are angry at.

Typical. Fly off the handle at anyone who doesn't agree with you.

[libbygurl]

111. Ha, ha! That was a hilarious mistake....LOL. nt

[skater314159]

55. You should pass out some nice cheese...

for that awful sour wine they love!

[aquart]

59. No. My sister supports Edwards.

You don't belong on the same planet as my sister.

And what Edwards would think of you if he knew? Or Colbert? You disgrace your idols.

[spooky3]

61. well then, as a fellow Edwards supporter, I am telling you that

calling women "old bats" is completely unacceptable.

Ask John and Elizabeth.

[libbygurl]

64. Thanks for your rare sensitivity and reason, spooky! Now you're a more typical...

...Edwards supporter to me!

[spooky3]

65. thanks, hon!

:hi:

[libbygurl]

79. Right back at ya!

:hi:

I really haven't encountered this kind of nastiness from Edwards supporters till I came to this thread, so it's reassuring to know people like yourself who support Edwards are still around.

Thank you, once again. And you know, I really like your guy, and have him just next to Hill. Hope he does stay in the race.

[PeaceNikki]

71. Seriously? "Mustache"?

Wow, you're on fire!!

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[DURHAM D]

31. You didn't finish - I am sure you meant to say Lesbians right after man haters. n/t

[skater314159]

62. Would that make you feel better? n/t

[DURHAM D]

66. Just trying to remind him of the correct language string from

the 70s and 80s used in the argument against the ERA.

[libbygurl]

69. I'm sure it would make YOU feel better, though, to add those slurs, sir/ma'am. nt

[skater314159]

85. Why are you bothered by me being a gender f**k?

Don't know whether to hate me as a man or want me to be your sister as a woman?

Maybe you should be more concerned about equal rights and treatment for all people, despite their gender, instead of believing that people can be divided between "man bad" and "woman good"?

[skater314159]

101. I'm not 0007 honey. You're STILL confused. n/t

[PeaceNikki]

51. Wow. "Man haters" and "Old bats" in one thread. Who said misogyny is dead?

Nice. :thumbsup:

[skater314159]

9. BUT they AREN'T RACIST because they are against the Black Guy. n/t

[libbygurl]

58. Oh, so Obama IS black after all? I had thought otherwise, considering the fervid...

...attempts to keep his skin colour and race out of the campaign rhetoric.

[skater314159]

67. Unlike Hilly who brings up gender and race every chance she can.

And why do you (or ANY white person) get to say who is "black" or not?

I thought segregation laws ended in the '60s... but maybe that makes you uncomfortable.

[libbygurl]

74. Did I say anything about Obama's being black or not? It's YOU who called him black,...

...and I was just proceeding to a logical conclusion based on your comment.

[skater314159]

87. You seemed shocked and incredulous.

Like the Hilly supporters who said "he isn't black enough"...

[tammywammy]

13. It saddens me to see a chapter of NOW says these things

[DURHAM D]

34. It pleases me to no end. n/t

[tammywammy]

60. The same group that accuses Obama & Edwards

of gang banging? Disgusing.

http://www.nownys.org/pr_2008/pr_011108.html

[NashVegas]

80. That Was Unfortunate Hyperbole

But not far from the truth, metaphorically speaking.

[Maribelle]

88. Doesn't gang banging mean protecting your turf in the neighborhood?

I think NOW-NY's piece was over the top, as well as the reaction to the piece.

[tammywammy]

89. Well, I've donated to NOW for years

Not the NY Chapter specifically, since I'm not from there. But I sent an email to them letting them know how I feel about it. It was way over the top and uncalled for.

[Occam Bandage]

16. Illinois NOW slammed Obama's record on choice, over the objections of NARAL and Planned Parenthood.

Some chapters of NOW seem to be more focused on a woman candidate than on anything else.

[aquart]

23. Didn't NARAL support Joe Lieberman as an independent?

[Occam Bandage]

37. Wouldn't surprise me. Joe Lieberman's record on abortion is impeccable.

NARAL isn't exactly concerned about Iraq. They're a single-issue group.

[libbygurl]

17. I still feel that...

...the USA isn't ready for a woman to be in charge as they are for a man, black or white.

But who knows how the votes will really go?

[goldcanyonaz]

21. We as women really haven't come as far as we had thought. Still second class citizens...

Just look at the comments around here on any given day. Sexism is celebrated and cheered on.

[libbygurl]

35. The USA, among Western industrialised countries, remains backward in this respect, as...

...so many other Western countries have had no problem electing women to positions of leadership (UK, Canada, Germany, to name a few, and Segolene Royal nearly won the presidency in France vs. Sarkozy).

Of course, in many Asian and African countries, women have become their nation's leaders with much less fuss than here, and have become so decades earlier!

[skater314159]

72. How are YOU second class? n/t

[PeaceNikki]

82. Salary gaps?

[theredpen]

91. Salary gaps?

Here's a list of 39 jobs where women make more than men:

http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/28/commentary/everyday/sahadi_paytable/index.htm

Salary gaps. :eyes:

If it were really try that you could routinely pay women — what is the "accepted figure" these days? 70%? — 70% of what men are paid, why the hell would anyone hire men? With "downsizing" and "outsourcing" the buzzwords of business for the last few decades, what company wouldn't jump at the opportunity to slash its salary budget by a whopping 30%.

I know, I know. Math is hard.

[PeaceNikki]

103. Wow! A whole THIRTY-NINE jobs!!

That's fucking amazing!

We should feel so superior!

[theredpen]

104. You said, "Salary Gaps"

Where are they?

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[theredpen]

106. Wow. You must be an economics PhD.

Are these the kinds of interpersonal and critical thinking skills that you bring to the workplace where you expect to be paid as much as people who can actually think and speak in complete sentences?

[skater314159]

107. Real "peaceful" response.

When you can't throw out unsupported claims and have them accepted, you attack.

If this is so "true", why don't you have DATA to back it up? What you are just spouting off is the same crap that has been repeated, and proven FALSE, since like, I dunno... the sixties? Don't you have an actual argument, backed with actual claims? Or just name calling?

You should change your screen-name, as you aren't really into the peace, are you?

:hippie:

[skater314159]

95. What?

This is such BS... if there was a gender gap in pay for the same job GET A LAWYER.

THAT IS ILLEGAL. SUE the company.

Can't sue? Maybe it's because you have less education, less qualifications, or a different job that the man who is getting paid the "thirty cents more per dollar". You can't have a different job and expect to get paid the same. Geeez. Is that hard to figure out?

And once again: How are YOU a second class citizen?

BLACKS and HISPANICS were a second class... which means they faced de facto and de jure discrimination, and are still overcoming that. I don't see that happening to women today in America - except in the minds of Feminists and Women's Studies majors.

[PeaceNikki]

100. Keep telling yourself that. In fact, pray on it.

:eyes:

[theredpen]

108. Are you willing to go for any low blow you can think of when you run out of facts?

If so, you should be more creative.

[skater314159]

110. You ignore facts

to support your "poor me, I'm a second class citizen" line.

Most "feminists" are WHITE, UPPER or MIDDLE CLASS Americans. IF you were really second class or oppressed, you wouldn' have the time or convinence to post here.

Those are the facts.

[PeaceNikki]

113. Nope. What I ignore is you.

See ya.

:hi:

[theredpen]

115. Wow you really have nothing, do you?

Except anger.

[skater314159]

118. Wow. You ARE smart and logical.

NOT!

Such a feeler attack. I'm a thinker. I don't care what your ignorant, fact-less self does.

Oh! But that's right, you're projecting... *you* need validation. Have fun getting it elsewhere... preferably somewhere where they buy your non-supported assertions.

[Freida5]

18. Finally our women's organizations are standing up to the constant attacks against Hillary

[libbygurl]

24. Let's hope these actions translate into votes as well. Btw, welcome to DU, Freida5! nt

[goldcanyonaz]

43. Welcome to DU, Freida!

:hi:

[skater314159]

127. How is supporting Obama a "constant attack against Hillary"?

You are reading into the article based on your own phiosophy and hatred of Kennedy. I didn't see even a single instance of "constant attacks against Hillary".

What are you smoking as you puruse DU? :smoke:

[dionysus]

22. you just pwned yourself, fool...

[ShortnFiery]

25. Not this "Women's Group"

consisting of my daughter and myself. ;)

I'm ashamed that the first viable Woman Presidential candidate is a shallow and duplicitous person who is proving more and more each day to be "morally bankrupt." She and her operatives would do any DAMN thing to score a 3rd term for her husband's DLC stacked Executive Branch.

[skater314159]

76. EXACTLY!

I don't want Hillary to represent "women" when she can't even stand up for human rights by saying torture is wrong. It's time for a woman president, but its NOT time for Hillary.

[DURHAM D]

26. I have no problem with this.

Seems like they nailed Teddy pretty well.

Frankly, I was blaming Ted's staff two weeks ago for inadequate or incorrect briefings. Now I realize this endorsement was in the works for awhile so his call to Bill, and the interviews he gave about same, and the Obama camp's comments to the press were all part of a larger strategy.

I had forgotten half of Ted's baggage with regard to women. It is the 21st century and I assumed he had grown a little - guess not.

He is just one more old white guy who continues to have a problem with strong women. Oh the U.S. Senate - the final firewall protecting white male privilege.

[skater314159]

92. Yeah, it's ALL about the Patriarchy...

blah blah blah.

[JAbuchan08]

112. A strong woman

is not necessarily a good woman. That is why the word is "strong" not good.

[kirby]

29. NOW: That was harsh!

I guess they only want a woman regardless of whether the other candidates have better ideas, or judgment, or experience, or whatever. I guess is Kathleen Harris was running, they would support her simply because of her gender.

[theredpen]

129. I don't want Hillary Clinton to be our first woman president...

...any more than I want Alan Keyes to be our first black president.

OK, I want Hillary way more than Alan, but just because we're close to breaking a historic barrier shouldn't mean that we can afford to lose sight of the "big picture."

[ErnestoG]

33. Boo fucking hoo

"He’s picked the new guy over us. He’s joined the list of progressive white men who can’t or won’t handle the prospect of a woman president who is Hillary Clinton."

What in the FUCK does that gobbledegook mean?

[fenriswolf]

40. of course teddy didn't pick hillary

He is sexist
:sarcasm:

jeezus

[GoldieAZ49]

42. Not this woman

It does get easier to say No NOW


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4251051&mesg_id=4255347

[Bread and Circus]

49. You do realize this makes NOW look really bad?

[DURHAM D]

52. Thanks for your concern. n/t

[eridani]

53. So now it's "feminist" to put every single woman in Iraq under house arrest--

--and be totally unapologetic for it? If that's the case, feminism has sure devolved a lot since my bra-burning days in the 60s.

[Canuckistanian]

54. Did Kennedy 'owe' the endorsement to HRC?

Since when do candidates get to be endorsed simply because of their gender?

Isn't discrimination or bias of any kind what we've been fighting against for over a hundred years?

I agree with limited affirmative action every now and again, but for political office?
No thanks.

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[LittleClarkie]

68. So he should have picked Hillary BECAUSE she's a woman

and not because of who he felt was was the better person?

That sucks out loud.

[Maribelle]

70. The OTT reaction of Now-NY leads me to believe there is a huge

emotional disappointment going on expressed in this sense of betrayal.

Perhaps they thought they had the support of Kennedy before this.

In any case,they need to take a break, get some sunshine, and realize that this too shall pass even more rapidly than the heartbreak of 2000.

[tammywammy]

75. Agreed

[libbygurl]

83. I think you're right about that. And I'm not sure EK's endorsement will change things that much...

...for the electorate.

Thanks for the reasoned comment on this thread!

[DURHAM D]

90. You mean - like just give it another fifty years?

The reactions you see here have nothing to do with Ted really - although he should not have endorsed anyone. He is just trying to remain relevant but it is divisive and angers me to see all the old white Senators working so hard to protect one of the last solid bastions of male chauvinism.

[Maribelle]

102. I think Hillary will get a huge lift tomorrow as Florida speaks its mind, clearly.

The newest endorsements she has received from Florida speak volumes, such as Janet Reno, Senator Bill Nelson, and even the Mayor of Miami - - I was surprised and please by this.

Tomorrow sunshine rules for Hillary.

She is far superior to the combination of Obama and Kennedy in her accomplishments, her dedication, her drive, and all the qualities of her character that make her an extraordinary woman that history will be so proud of.

[loveangelc]

73. so fucking stupid. i would be ashamed if i wrote that for an organization.

[SoxFan]

77. Nice

[NashVegas]

78. That's a Very Immature Press Release

They need a new PR person.

[RFKJrNews]

86. As a woman, I am offended by NOW's statement

for a number of reasons. But let's just look at the hypocrisy of one:

"Women have forgiven Kennedy, stuck up for him, stood by him, hushed the fact that he was late in his support of Title IX, the ERA, the Family Leave and Medical Act to name a few." So NOW says.

Notice the one thing they didn't mention was Chappaquiddick.

Not to be obtuse or snarky here, but wasn't that a WOMAN who died in that car, and didn't NOW give Teddy a pass on that? Stuck up for him, stood by him, apologized for him, etc...

Where was NOW then?????????????????????

Don't get me wrong, I have much love for Ted Kennedy and the many good things he's done. But let's be honest, he's made some horrible mistakes, too. And women who were unconcerned about the death of Mary Jo Kopechne back then are the same women who now cry betrayal that their man, Ted Kennedy, has supposedly abandoned them.

My point being - this announcement from NOW reeks of sour grapes and not getting the political favor they expected in return for covering Teddy's butt all these years. This attack on Kennedy is not about who is the best candidate for women's issues and women's rights - it's about "Who's Your Mama, Teddy?"

[Maribelle]

94. You know, it's not like the women of NOW today were even around back then.

I think your slicing and dicing this thing a little too much.

[Dorian Gray]

93. That pisses me off...

not so much because I support Obama over Hillary so strongly. I will be happy with either of them as the Democratic candidate. But, it's so divisive and obnoxious. Especially since it's ignoring the fact that the progressive white man is backing someone who is not a progressive WHITE man.

[Hieronymus]

96. Then they are a sexist lot.

[cd3dem]

97. it is really irritating that there are racist code words being used but Hillary is slammed as weak

because she has Bill speaking for her... this is sexist! they attack her all the time with sexist statements... and Obama feeds the presses attacks by saying she is likable "enough" ... for what? a woman? give me a break... either she is too tough or a cry baby... what is this?

NOW is right! this is pure sexism! give an endorsement to the rookie before a seasoned woman!

Thank goodness Kathleen Kennedy sees Hillary as a strong woman who is in the campaign of her life! and she has endorsed Hillary!

[goldcanyonaz]

116. cd3dem, right on! Love the cartoon. spot on.

:hi:

[JAbuchan08]

117. whatever the seasoning, it must be a poor mix

it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Since when does not supporting an individual for president become the equivalent of chauvanism because that individual is a woman?

[cd3dem]

134. listen to the rhetoric the media and Obama play about Hillary

she is not warm and likable.... too harsh (Bitch)... she was just a first lady.... she has no experience from when Bill was President... what will Bill do? who would be VP with Bill around... Bill will take over the VP job... but Hillary did nothing... Hillary needs her husband and she is weak... Michelle is a great advocate for Barack...

[JAbuchan08]

99. THe proper emphasis belongs here,

"He's joined the list of progressive white men who can't or won't handle the prospect of a woman president who is Hillary Clinton"

I don't think I need to add much to that. The inference is easily drawn.

[truedelphi]

119. NOW Chapter of NY State can take their crappy supposedly feminist attitude

And jump in the lake, permanently.

If women want or need a Presidential candidate here is my rec':

Barbara Boxer.
For her awareness and her bravery in signing on with the Black Caucus in the Senate, post election 2004, and then her refusing to vote for the certification of the election that put Bush into office for the second time.

Hillary was too busy ensuring that the 2004 election not be investigated or invalidated to stand with Boxer.

And for that reason alone she has no support from me.

edited to say "Chapter of New York state"

[EFerrari]

120. Exactly. n/t

[skater314159]

131. PING!

[TheDonkey]

121. wtf? Endorse Obama and you are against women?

NOW needs to get a grip.

[Bluebear]

123. Urges the male poster.

[ErnestoG]

125. What a bunch of fucking morons.

Seriously, this is desperation at breakneck speed for the Hillarbots.

[Bluebear]

124. This gay American feels the same way.

And I certainly let Kennedy's office know, too.

[goldcanyonaz]

132. Good for you Bluebear!

[Emillereid]

126. This is total bullshit! Talk about playing the gender issue.

Does it occur to these women that Kennedy like many white women see a great leader in Obama and that it matters not the gender or race of the candidate but the substance.

"He’s joined the list of progressive white men who can’t or won’t handle the prospect of a woman president who is Hillary Clinton." Christ he said he would support her if she is the candidate which is more than I can say and I am a white woman. I can certainly handle the prospect of a woman president -- who is not Hillary Clinton.

[cooolandrew]

128. Whoa, he said he'd back any candidate that gets the nominee. It's OTT to call it mysogny...

...What is it when Caroline supports Barack. I would have no issue if so many Dems had got behind Hillary I might even of thought twice about my support for Barack. This just seems some tactic to make any further endorsements have to fight mysognyclaims unreal.

[Onlooker]

130. Very good points but why did they say progressive white men, rather than just progressive men? n/t