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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:37 PM
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Marcia Pappas, President NOW - New York State should be removed for her disgusting comments
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 04:52 PM by ProSense
Pappas: Psychological Gang Bang of Hillary is Proof We Need a Woman President:

" We've all witnessed scenarios where, on the playground little girls are being taunted by little boys while both girls and boys stand idle, afraid to speak up or even cheering. Or, in the workplace males tease young and older female co-workers; make obscene gestures, inappropriate comments, laughing and expecting (often correctly) that everyone will join in. Then there was that movie where Jodie Foster portrayed the true story of woman who was ganged raped in a bar while others looked on and encouraged the realization. Still others pretended the rape didn't happen. In short, gang raping of women is commonplace in our culture both physically and metaphorically.

This past week, we witnessed just such a phenomenon involving men who are afraid of a powerful woman. Hillary Clinton, in her quest for her Presidential nomination, has in fact endured infantile taunting and wildly inappropriate commentary. Indeed we have witnessed almost comical attacks by John Edwards who in turn sided with Barak Obama as both snickered at Clinton's "breakdown," which consisted of a very short dewy-eyed moment. Now John Kerry, who should certainly know better after his own "swiftboating," has joined the playground gang."


Contact NOW-NYS

This is becoming a pattern among Hillary's surrogates.

Women stand up for Obama:

A Vote for Obama is a Vote for Women

Videos: Why Lorna Switched from Clinton to Obama

Angela Padilla reacts to Hillary Clinton's attack on Barack

Edited to add:

So that's it--an endorsement of any candidate but Hillary is a betrayal of the feminist cause? I suppose the more sophisticated version is that interest groups expect the politicians they support to support them blindly in their time of need. This is their time of need, the NY NOW chapter argues, ergo Kennedy should be with them. But that assumes that the feminist time of need equates with electing Hillary. Would most women, or even most feminists, agree with that? I just can't. And what does this narrow-cast way of evaluating a candidate really have to recommend it? I can't think of anything on that score, either. Can some other women's group please speak up to say that if Kennedy has good reason to think that Obama would be the best president for the country, and a damn fine president for women, then supporting him is AOK with them?

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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:41 PM
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1. Edwards and Obama have NOT "endured infantile taunting and wildly inappropriate commentary"?
:wow:
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:42 PM
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2. It would be a big surprise if the NEW YORK president of NOW was
anything but strong advocate for Clinton. But invocations of gang rape are inflammatory and simply not correct. Nobody is "gang raping" anybody in a political contest and it demeans the very term to use it so carelessly
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:43 PM
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3. Appalling:
Whoa!

Read the comments and know this will backfire.

Despicable!
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:43 PM
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4. Please don't tell what a feminist organization should do with it's president.
Thanks.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:48 PM
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5. How nonsensical! I say BRAVO!
We've waited a long time for Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:56 PM
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6. "BRAVO" for low and disgusting comments! n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:57 PM
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7. Yes, please use more mass-rape metaphors to whine about how your candidate is treated
It doesn't cheapen the suffering of real rape victims one bit. :eyes:

Maybe she should have said that Teddy aborted Hillary's candidacy with the coathanger of betrayal. Un-fucking-believable.



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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:32 PM
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12. Godwin's Law should be expanded
To include terms like "mass rape" in mere political battles.

REAL rapes are an abomination. Let's not abuse the word.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:58 PM
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18. Total agreement. I still can't believe a supposed feminist thought that was a reasonable metaphor.
:puke:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:24 PM
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8. Definitely not appropriate analogy....
Hillary as the victim??? Pleeeeessse...gimme a break.

I'm sorry but I find the analogy of the victim of gang rape inappropriate and it in my opinion just will further hurt Hillary, not help.

I find the irony in that a woman who is supposed to be a feminist, would have to be using her husband as her wing-man, and that a feminist organization defends her by making her the victim. I'm a feminist and I find it offensive....on all fronts.

And, I disagree that she is being victimized...Today, when I saw on the news that Rezko (the Chicago Slumlord) was indicted, I started chuckling, because it ain't coincidence that Hillary, the "victim", brought up Rezko in the last debate and tied Obama to him. She and the Clinton machine knew the indictments were coming and they threw it at Obama to smear him. Yeah, victim my ass.... :eyes:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:24 PM
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9. Agreed.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:28 PM
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10. Pappas was without a doubt out of line
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:31 PM
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11. Disgusting...NOW does NOT represent this woman

This insults the intelligence of all women. This is the crap that suffragettes fought against in trying to get the right to vote: Women are not smart enough to vote on issues, they are just emotional and will vote for who or what they feel sorry for.
THAT IS WHAT NOW IS TELLING US WE ARE CHARGED TO DO!!!

Vote for Hillary:
So kid won't taunt other kids on the playground
So you won't be a silent bystander to a gang rape Because the guys are picking on her
Because men are afraid of a powerful woman
So you won't be a supporter of a patriarchal system
Because Hillary is willing to stick her neck out for us
Because the good ole boys ganging up on her
We are charged to: SUPPORT WOMEN!
So female seniors see a woman in the White House before they die
let's not let young women and little girls down
so young girls and women know they can be important?
put a stop to the psychological “gang banging” of women and girls.

BULLSHIT.

I am more concerned with a candidate that can deal with National Security and enemies that threaten to kill us, not say "I'm your girl"
I will vote for a candidate that isn't a silent bystander when her husband tells the children of this country that oral sex isn't really sex...to see girls in school giving blow jobs so they are popular...cuz it really isn't sex (boy, womans lib has come a long way...hasn't it)
I will vote for a woman if she really is powerful ...enough to stand up to her own husband for starters...and stick her neck out for her own dignity
I will vote for a candidate that supports the women that have been sexually harassed and abused by her own husband
I will vote for a candidate that will hold accountable the man that demeans all women, young and old instead of blaming 'the vast right wing majority'
I will vote for a candidate that doesn't gang bang me with demand that I owe her my vote because I am a woman

I will vote for the candidate of MY CHOICE, not any one else's, I have fought for my rights as a woman and NOW isn't going to take it away from me and I will not surrender my right to choose a candidate based on my preferences not theirs.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:50 PM
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13. added to her rebuke of Kennedy's endorsement
she can kiss my ass
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:46 PM
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14. Those EVIL people at NOW!
Not falling to their knees at the altar of Obama.


How DARE they???!!!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:52 PM
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15. She really should. No woman should ever use the term "gang bang"...
Particularly one who is supposedly fighting for women's rights.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:53 PM
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16. I posted this before I saw yours.
I was stunned at how many here think her article is ok.

I was insulted several times in my thread. :shrug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:58 PM
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17. Here's another one of hers, just as bad or worse.
"And now the greatest betrayal! We are repaid with his abandonment! He’s picked the new guy over us. He’s joined the list of progressive white men who can’t or won’t handle the prospect of a woman president who is Hillary Clinton (they will of course say they support a woman president, just not “this” one). “They” are Howard Dean and Jim Dean (Yup! That’s Howard’s brother) who run DFA (that’s the group and list from the Dean campaign that we women helped start and grow). They are Alternet, Progressive Democrats of America, democrats.com, Kucinich lovers and all the other groups that take women's money, say they’ll do feminist and women’s rights issues one of these days, and conveniently forget to mention women and children when they talk about poverty or human needs or America’s future or whatever."

http://readme.readmedia.com/news/show/Senator-Ted-Kennedy-Betrays-Women-by-Not-Standing-for-Hillary-Clinton-for-President/53725
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:59 PM
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19. Did she actually refer to Obama as "the new guy"???
Wow. How Valley Girl.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:12 PM
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20. She accused Kennedy, Jim Dean, and Howard Dean of being anti-woman.
http://readme.readmedia.com/news/show/Senator-Ted-Kennedy-Betrays-Women-by-Not-Standing-for-Hillary-Clinton-for-President/53725

"And now the greatest betrayal! We are repaid with his abandonment! He’s picked the new guy over us. He’s joined the list of progressive white men who can’t or won’t handle the prospect of a woman president who is Hillary Clinton (they will of course say they support a woman president, just not “this” one). “They” are Howard Dean and Jim Dean (Yup! That’s Howard’s brother) who run DFA (that’s the group and list from the Dean campaign that we women helped start and grow). They are Alternet, Progressive Democrats of America, democrats.com, Kucinich lovers and all the other groups that take women's money, say they’ll do feminist and women’s rights issues one of these days, and conveniently forget to mention women and children when they talk about poverty or human needs or America’s future or whatever.

This latest move by Kennedy, is so telling about the status of and respect for women’s rights, women’s voices, women’s equality, women’s authority and our ability – indeed, our obligation - to promote and earn and deserve and elect, unabashedly, a President that is the first woman after centuries of men who “know what’s best for us.”

How did she get from Kennedy to the Dean brothers, and why would she say that?
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