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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 12:14 AM
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Gephardt carries more weight in midwest than Edwards does in the south
I just saw this brought up on Nightline and it seemed like a good point.
There seem to be more battleground states in the Midwest and around the Great Lakes than in the South. Don't we have a better chance at winning Ohio and Missouri than we do winning Georgia and North Carolina? So...maybe Gephardt is the way to go. I personally was really pissed at him for helping to lose so many seats in 2002 but he campaigned very well as a presidential candidate, i thought.

Like they said, it is going to come down to 7 or 8 states in the end.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 12:15 AM
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1. Edwards as VP will give better speeches than Gore did under Clinton
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 12:22 AM
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2. all the SOUTH hasn't gotten to vote YET......
....so this is pure conjecture! :(
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 12:27 AM
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3. The CNN talkers remarked that Gephardt gave Kerry tons of
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 12:28 AM by Gloria
support in a number of states, inc. Ohio. It wasn't talked about much, but apparently it really was important....
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:10 PM
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4. yep
I think Edwards message has faded a bit. But then again, did Gephardt ever even have a message?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:19 PM
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5. Missouri, maybe
Elsewhere, though, no, and this is from someone who actually lives in the midwest, not an ABC correspondent who lives in New York City.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:25 PM
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7. I agree, and I'm a Midwesterner, too.
Gephardt would be ZERO help to the ticket in the Midwest.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:28 PM
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9. He's well known on DU
but not amongst the general public - that's just how it is.

Edwards would help more than Gephardt, as would Harkin, Clark, or Graham.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:29 PM
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11. Or Durbin.
There are LOTS of candidates who would help us in the Midwest more than Gephardt.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:27 PM
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8. Exactly. Alot of the models posing as journalists with independant thought
processes are the people who spread this idiotic wisdom. Things like "ohio is the florida of 2004" or the spread of the absurd notion that primary appeal and success is parallel to general election electability and focused appeal.

Cambpell Brown at NBC epitomizes this
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tameszu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:31 PM
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12. Campbell Brown is great just for model value alone
Actually, I find her to be much more useful than a lot of the other useless reporters: she looks good, some of the stuff she says is at least half-right, and because she doesn't blab all of the time, it seriously cuts down the amount of dumb stuff that comes out of her mouth.

I.E.: Any Faux anchor, Mort Kondracke, Bill Schneider, Tweety (some of the stuff he says is actually half intelligent, but you have to dig it out from so much stupidity), etc.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:24 PM
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6. Their both bad choices, but Gephardt is worse
Gephardt is not the favorite son of the midwest, he's not even the favorite son of Missouri. He's only been elected to an urban district.

And Iowa showed that big and or/Organized labor has no favorite son, and that Gephardt certainly doesn't have the grasp of it or any of these groups that his proponents say he does.

He's a hackish career politician with zero charisma.

Bob Graham, however is the most popular politician in the biggest swingstate, that also happens to be the bluest red state in 2000 and the only southern state that is a tossup for Kerry.

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tameszu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:32 PM
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13. I like Bob Graham much more than Gep
Gep is soooo boring. He has hypnotic un-eyebrows.

Graham might not exactly light up a room, but he's likable (to me, at least).
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:28 PM
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10. I don't think so. I don't think he does much for you in Missouri.
He is from one St. Louis district that is not representative of the state. He is not popular in the rest of it and would not bring you it.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:11 PM
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14. Having lived in Missouri for decades, I can tell you that
Gephardt's influence really doesn't reach much past St. Louis. Kansas Citians don't care for him. He had absolutely no pull in Iowa. In short, he would make a poor strategic choice for Kerry's running mate.
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