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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:13 PM
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As Obama and Kennedy inspire a nation Hillary's DU supporters smear Obama supporters. . .
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:07 PM by wndycty
Can you smell the desperation in the air folks. They are scared. They are going nuclear. They know Hillary is in trouble and they are resorting to smear tactics.

The latest is to smear Obama supporter Illinois State Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias as a mobster.

Just some quick facts for you.

Alexi's family bank made a loan to a person who was a convicted felon. The loan was above board and there are no allegations of wrong doing.

Here is the Chicago Sun-Times endorsement of him, even after the allegations surfaced and were raised by his Republican opponent:

Over the last several elections, Illinois voters have increasingly trended toward Democratic candidates. This year, the Democrats offer for statewide offices an attractive field of candidates that includes three incumbents and one political novice. The newcomer to politics is Alexi Giannoulias, who is the choice of the Sun-Times News Group for state treasurer. Giannoulias, though still a young man, will bring valuable private enterprise experience from banking to the job. <…>

While that banking experience is the reason we’re endorsing Giannoulias, that background also has opened him up to criticism over some of the bank’s loans. He’s been accused of making million-dollar loans to felons. He insists there was nothing improper in those transactions, says that the bank doesn’t do criminal background checks on bank customers, but admits he’s been too cavalier in answering questions about the loans. Still, Giannoulias hasn’t been accused of wrongdoing, and the loans were repaid. In other words, the community bank, which was in the business of making loans, did just that.

We believe Giannoulias’ banking experience will help him bring creative money management ideas to the treasurer’s office. For instance, Giannoulias outlined a securities lending program that he’d like to explore. The investment strategy, temporarily lending out state-owned securities, is being used in Connecticut, Missouri, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio to boost investment portfolio returns. Other of his priorities include improving the “Bright Start” college savings program and promoting home-grown ethanol-based renewable fuels. Giannoulias proposes that the treasurer’s office offer low-interest loans to gas station owners who convert to offer E-85 fuel in Illinois.

His Republican opponent, state Sen. Christine Radogno, has an impressive background in politics and legislative work on fiscal issues, but our vote goes to the new ideas offered by Giannoulias.
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http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/wp-mobile.php?p=2582&more=1

If folks continue to push this Giannoulias is a mobster theme then it should tell you a lot more about them and their motivation than it tells you about Obama or Alexi.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:14 PM
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1. Pot calling the kettle black.
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:16 PM by cat_girl25
And btw, why are you starting a new thread with the smear? The other one was locked. Are you sure you're an Obama supporter?
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:23 PM
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2. First, Im not inspired by either Obama or Ted and
second Im not smearing anyone, desperate, scared, going nuclear and Hillary's not in trouble.

I leave the smearing to the Obama supporters. They are just So damn good at it.

:eyes:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:24 PM
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3. All they seem to have is smear, innuendo and guilt by association
If they actually tried to promote Hillary Clinton's good ideas on the issues I would think more of them. Hillary Clinton does have some good ideas but you would hardly know it on DU because her supporters barely mention them. The slogan of Hillary supporters seems to be: "yeah she's a piece of shit, but then Obama is too".
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:30 PM
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5. One thing you missed: Camp Clinton only admits states she wins are important
Dismisses all that doesn't go their way as unimportant.

THAT is so like... trying to create reality by ignoring what is and reminds me of Rove.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:44 PM
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13. Camp Clinton also claims superdelegates are important
And many of these endorsements are from superdelegates.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:11 PM
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24. Kinda like the Obamaniacs
who pooh-pooh at his low numbers in the national polls?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:26 PM
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4. I fear Obama and Ted are assuring a Republican Rout
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:34 PM
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7. ...
:thumbsup:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:32 PM
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6. Man you people are crybabies today
Welcome to our world - toughen up.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:37 PM
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8. When a stupid motherfucker calls someone mobster when they are not. . .
. . .and I call that shit out I'm not being a crybaby. You can paint whatever narrative you want to make your miserable ass feel better, but I ain't crying. Its called defending your candidate against lies and smears.

A Clinton supporter called an Obama supporter, Alexi Giannoulias, a mobster. Look at the facts and tell me if Giannoulias is a mobster.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:38 PM
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9. And people have been flinging
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:39 PM by MonkeyFunk
that kind of shit at Clinton for months now, and I didn't hear you crying.

Toughen up.

You tell me what Clinton's ties to Rezko are and tell me THAT wasn't bullshit.

You tell me whether or not Clinton conceded SC and tell me THAT wasn't bullshit.

Your outrage is a little too selective for me to give a shit about.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:40 PM
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11. Well defend her then. . .its not my job to protect her. . .
. . .its yours if you feel she is unfairly attacked. Again, I think its pretty pathetic for you to call defending a candidate crying.

So when someone lies about your candidate what are you supposed to do? Take it?

Answer that, what are you supposed to do?

Is that really crying?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:44 PM
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12. I do defend it
and I've defended your candidate plenty of times from the bullshit.

But I haven't seen you extend that courtesy. And when WE defend our candidate, we get called all sorts of names.

Look at the period at the end of this sentence. Within that small dot, you could fit 450,000,000 units of "how-much-I-don't-give-a-shit-about-your-selective-outrage".
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:58 PM
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16. Well obviously you don't read all of my threads. . .
. . .I thinks its laughable that you can make an accusation about me not defending your candidate because you have not seen it. I have defended Hillary, congratulated her on wins and endorsements.
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:45 PM
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14. i don't think my candidate needs defending
i see the shit that gets thrown at her here...and i laugh now
she can take care of herself, she's proven it time after time...
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:40 PM
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10. suck your thumb wash your face in bubble gum
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:14 PM
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25. You're calling other people crybabies?
Huh.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:47 PM
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15. DFA endorsed Alexi Giannoulias, as I recall nt
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:59 PM
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17. No smears here. May the best candidate win.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:01 PM
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20. I wish more people were like you (on all sides)
:kick:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:00 PM
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18. Let's count the Rezko threads today!
I'm thinking of a number.....
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:00 PM
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19. Whenever we defend her, we are mocked.
Unless you are an Obambot, you can't win around here on in the media.
I am not inpsired by Obama or Ted.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:08 PM
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22. "Defending" = calling people "Obambots".
I see. Please go on with your defending...

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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:07 PM
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21. KIck for edit
:kick:
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:09 PM
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23. You forgot to call them Shitleryites.
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