Washington and Lee University choose Harold Ford as Hillary's VP

[madfloridian]

in a mock convention they held. I found this a little scary. Kind of stunning to me, even though it is mock. :shrug:

W&L students every four years conduct a mock convention predicting the nomination of the political party out of power in the White House and they have been right 18 out of the last 23 times and have been wrong only once since 1948. In 1972, the W&L students chose Ted Kennedy instead of George McGovern.

Ironically, Hillary Clinton’s nomination came despite louder cheers at times from students who favored presidential candidate Barack Obama, whom the convention picked to win Saturday’s South Carolina primary plus Virginia’s Feb 12 Democratic primary. But students, in keeping with the convention’s tradition, carefully researched each state’s likely leanings for this summer’s national convention in Denver and voted the way they think the states will vote, based on conversations with political leaders, journalists, professors and others in the 50 states.

Clinton’s phone call capped two days of convention activity and a morning of speeches from U.S. Sen. Jim Webb, D-Arlington; West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin and former Rep. Harold E. Ford Jr. of Memphis, chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council.

In a move that surprised even convention organizers, the convention chose Ford by voice vote as Clinton’s running mate for vice president.

Ford, a rising star in the Democratic Party, was thrilled with the choice and told a local radio station that he “has got to ask his fiancée if that’s OK.” Ford nosed out Webb and Obama in the voice votes for vice president.

This part is also surprising...but it does not to me show the spirit in our country right now. This group has "been right 18 out of the last 23 times and have been wrong only once since 1948."

That spirit of change and excitement...I can not fit Harold Ford into that scenario.

[Colobo]

1. Clinton/Ford? That ticket sucks ass.

[CorpGovActivist]

2. Sounds Like an Edsel to Me n/t

[madfloridian]

3. Well, it might fit with this statement of Carville on another topic.

It might be taking into account that Harold Ford has been shown to be favored by some in the Clinton camp. Carville really stepped it in when he implicated the Clintons in this statement.

Carville implicates others in his saying Dean should be replaced with Ford

Flush with victory after the election, Rahm’s allies, led by Carville, try to mount a coup at the DNC by publicly attacking Dean and suggesting he be replaced by Harold Ford, a Tennessee moderate who just lost a Senate race. “You can’t go into 2008 having a party chairman that is completely disconnected from the congressional leadership and the campaign committees,” Carville tells me, further pounding the wedge that divides the Deaniacs and the Clintonites. When I ask if Rahm agrees, Carville says, “It’s not any secret that Rahm has expressed disdain for Dean and not very secret that Rahm and I are close. It doesn’t take a lot of dot-connecting here.”

What about the Clintons, who, given Hillary’s presidential ambitions, have more cause for concern about who runs the DNC in 2008? “Let’s just say nobody has called me telling me this is a bad idea. Sometimes silence is eloquence.” Not only did Carville’s coup fail but it arguably strengthened Dean, who, speaking before his state-party allies, mocked the attempt as a desperate attack from the “old Democratic Party.” Cutting his losses, Rahm quickly leaked word to the press that he and Dean had negotiated a truce.

[UALRBSofL]

4. The Fords

Are very well known in Tennessee and have been in politics all there life. I think Ford would be a good choice considering his influence in the southern states.

[madfloridian]

6. After he said the party chairman was not welcome in TN...

I have found it hard to care much for him. I am not sure he has that much appeal to most Democrats because of his conservative views.

[Tulkas]

5. I like the guy but, we need Ohio or Florida or the "Western Block"

Just because Billary can pick another talented African American for the V.P. spot it does not help the ticket or the party.

[maximusveritas]

7. DLC/DLC 2008

:puke:

And I had the impression Ford was a falling star, not a rising star.

[UALRBSofL]

9. Well

Just a minor setback in 2006.

[Kucinich4America]

8. Another reason why we can't take a chance on a Hillary coronation

It's time to thoroughly dismantle the DLC and ensure that they NEVER come back.

[UALRBSofL]

12. Is this because

Of your dislike for Ford and Clinton that you want the DLC dismantled?? Or could you expand?

[Kucinich4America]

13. The DLC are Republicans infiltrating the Democratic party to destroy it from within

If you compare where we were before 1980 to where we are now, you can see that it's working.

[hogwyld]

10. Well golllleeee

I guess all the other candidates just might as well pack up and take their toys back home...

[tularetom]

11. Harold Ford

is a dildo. I watched him get all prunefaced on the Bill Maher show after Maher said "fuck". For the rest of the show he just sat there looking like he just sucked a lemon.

Anybody that out of touch with reality has no place on a Democratic ticket (Ford probably refers to it as the "Democrat" ticket).

[Der Blaue Engel]

14. They've been right on the nominee, but have they been right on the running mate?

It doesn't sound like that was part of that record, as they mention it was based on a voice vote and not part of the careful research of state leanings. :shrug:

[Kucinich4America]

18. Sounds like they're wrong on both this time.

God help this country if they aren't :scared:

[aquart]

15. Right about what?

[cali]

16. ha!

I posted a thread about that last week saying if Hill needed to get the black vote she'd go with him- lots of people jumped on me.

[Kucinich4America]

23. Do people even know Ford is "black"??

Outside of the racists in Tennessee who voted for the official Republican over him, anyway.

To me, the guy looks like A-Rod. And just as greedy.....

[cali]

26. {shudder} did you have to post that pic?

to me he looks incredibly... smarmy.

[Kucinich4America]

28. Which one?

:evilgrin:

[Radical Activist]

17. That makes perfect sense.

If Clinton wins the nomination she is going to have problems with the black community. Obama isn't likely to run as VP and Ford is more in line with Clinton's views.

[Colobo]

19. Obama > Ford.

[FrenchieCat]

21. And then some!

Obama >>>>>>>>>>>> Ford.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

20. Yay! Status/Quo in '08!!

[oasis]

22. Ford's a good choice at the moment, but things will be smoothed over with

the African American community long before the convention.

[madfloridian]

24. Hey, things will have to be smoothed over with a whole lot of us.

Right after the election when we were all excited, Carville on CNN said replace Dean with Ford. He said the Clinton's silence was eloquent...they did not tell him to stop the attacks.

Carville just went on with these statements publicly...no one told him to hush.

Why we voted for Obama after being uncommitted

And Ford himself has insulted Dean many times....I find that hard to accept. Dean has done a lot of this party, and I can't vote for a ticket with Ford on it.

[oasis]

27. Wes Clark remains my strong choice for VP. I'm personally lukewarm on Ford.(eom)

[Tatiana]

25. G-d, I hope there isn't a grain of truth in this.

I had such high hopes for Ford and I can honestly say he has been a huge disappointment. I wish I could get a refund of the $50 I gave to his campaign.

She'd do better with Clark on the ticket.

[sandnsea]

29. They chose Clinton for the Iowa caucus too

So much for their opinion on this election.

[ShortnFiery]

30. Why not, it's "all in the family?" Harold Ford is part of The Clintonian DLC's Leadership.

Meet the new Bosses right out of the same organization that has held our party in a stranglehold, that has taken root ever since "Bubba" first came on the scene in 1992. :thumbsdown: :nuke: