Dean Supporters - Should Dean Get Back In, and Why?

[earthsea wizard]

Edwards is out.

I've read that Kucinich was waiting for today before dropping out.

Dean can now get Kerry one on one, just as he once planned. There may not be an anti-Kerry candidate at this point.

(sorry Sharpton supporters, your man isn't really an anti-Kerry candidate)

But should Dean come back? Why, or why not?

[Zynx]

1. No. His resources are exhausted and we are not up to it.

[Terry_M]

2. Well, it'd be fun

But I'm afraid after tonight Kerry will have almost all the delegates he will need.

[bhunt70]

I think not, his momentum has been lost by not being as visible.

[Dookus]

3. Oh yes, please let him get back in

BEG him to, would ya? His first demise just wasn't satisfying enough for some people

:eyes:

[earthsea wizard]

18. Hey Dookus, How Could I Have Left You Off Of The List?

Thanks for reminding me!

[Dookus]

23. :shrug:

Sorry, I don't know who you are or what list you're referring to.

But party on with your bad self! tonight we party!! we have a nominee!

:party:

[truhavoc]

4. It's over, just unite and raise money to defeat * n/t

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

5. No. He should spend his time creating the new organization

of grassroots progressives. We will be a force in the Democratic Party, and will be watching for any signs of the Democrats trying to be GOP-Lite.

[Bertha Venation]

6. No. What Zynx said, and another reason:

No more Perots. No more zip out for a minute then zip back in.

I wept when he dropped out. I wept at the polls today. I still think he'd be a fantastic president and I hope he tries again someday. But not this time around.

[LiberalFighter]

7. If he wasn't $500,000 in the red... Yes... but not the case

[Guaranteed]

8. I'm not sure that he should "get back in the race"

but I think that he should do his best to keep Kerry honest by calling Kerry out if he falls back into his wussy routine- for Kerry's own good. Also, I think that Kerry's probably going to need Dean's help more than once in this race, like if things start getting really nasty and there's some dirty work to be done, so Dean should be ready to jump in with a shot of adrenaline if he needs to.

[beth in AZ]

10. Nope

Dean should not get back in the race. He should consolidate his organization and influence in the Party, and we should all work to keep Kerry honest.

DFA can become a very strong grassroots organization, supporting congressional and senate candidates. That's where we can do the most good, I think.

[aquart]

12. Absolutely. We need a new Congress.

This one has been really......oh....insufficient.

[newyawker99]

31. Hi beth in AZ!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[rainy]

9. I for one would love to see Dean come back.

I guess it can't really happen as funds are dry and Media would not treat him well. I am not so happy about Kerry as I see it as politics as usual, big corporations win. I will probably vote for Nader since I come from a huge Republican state, VA and Kerry does not have a chance here. I will vote Nader simply because his views are the same as mine and Kerry supported the illegal, revengeful, disgusting war. I will not vote for anyone who supported this war. I remember feeling so lost and hopeless watching the senate debates about the war until I heard Robert Byrd speak. I cried. I was very upset at all of the dems who lost all respect and back bone by not standing up for humanity. I am not for Kerry. He is a willow tree. He bends where the wind is blowing if it will advance his career.

[WonderGrunion]

11. No

But only because it wouldn't further his goals of bringing delegates to the convention this year, but would make him a pariah in future runs. Dr. Dean is doing the best he can for the party and for himself by using his organization to raise funds and awareness for house and senate candidates that can help us take our country back.

[InhaleToTheChief]

13. No...Perot n/t

[pennylane100]

14. Sadly, Dean cannot catch Kerry after today

so he would just look like a Perot clone and lose credibility.

I am hoping that his new organization will attract the numbers needed to make him a factor in the democratic party. I'm certainly going to join.

[NoPasaran]

15. No

I'm as committed to Dean as anyone on this board and next week I'm spending the next week doing my best to win some more Dean delegates. But there is no denying that Kerry has emerged the victor in the primaries and we're all going to have to do our best to propel him to victory in November.

Why am I still voting and caucusing for Dean next week instead of climbing on the Kerry bandwagon? It's because I am serious about taking the Democratic Party back and making it the party of ordinary working Americans again. And that means that we Dean supporters need to get serious about working on the local level and injecting fresh blood into moribund party institutions. The Dean movement has already done a lot for the party, bringing in enthusiasm and the idea that WE CAN WIN in 2004; we need to keep our enthusiasm high so WE WILL WIN.

[Nicholas_J]

16. Cause there are not enough

delegates left for Dean to pass Kerry now with the delegates that both Edwards and Kerry will have by the end of this evening.

[RKO]

17. Dean is done.

It's time for his supporters to realize that and move on.

[jonnyblitz]

19. no. let it go already. n/t

[SadEagle]

20. No. Kerry will probably have ~1400 delegates by the end of the evening...

... So Dean doesn't have a chance to catch up, and the calendar really isn't in his favor. Now, if he was in Edward's position after Wisconsin, he perhaps would have been better positionned to challenge Kerry in NY and CA... But now... nope, only Kerry can beat Kerry now

[Nicholas_J]

24. Add Edwards delegates into that mix

plus the delegates for the other candidates, and there is no mathemetical way for Dean to be nominated.

I would not be surprised if it was planned for Edwards to stay in the race just long enough to rack up enough delegates to netralize Dean.

[NNN0LHI]

33. And Edwards supporters might not be surprised...

...if it was planned for Dean to stay in the race just long enough to rack up enough delegates to neutralize Edwards? Do you see where I am going with this?

Don

[dsc]

47. If your are intimating that Nicholas J is a Dean supporter

you are barking up a very wrong tree.

[earthsea wizard]

21. What About Running For Delegates

Not running for the nomination?

Flame me if you like, I'm fireproof tonight :)

[milkyway]

22. That would be surreal. This is occasionally mentioned on the blog. Why on

earth would Dean do that? Kerry has won the nomination. Dean can best serve the nation and himself by doing what he can do better than most anyone else right now: going after bush* and energizing people.

[littlejoe]

25. Dean is dead politically. No one likes a quitter.

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[RKO]

27. littlejoe tells the truth.

I hope you can realize it someday.

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42. true and not true

As far as president this time, Dean is out.

Clark quit, Edwards is going to quit, etc. People still like them right?

Hey, even Nixon quit and came back to become president. Maybe he's not the best example since a lot of people don't like him.

Dean isn't dead politically. He's quite alive. If you define "dead politically" as this particular election this time around, he's dead politically, but let's be real ok?

'nuf said.

[Democat]

29. The primary race is over

There is nothing to get back in. Kerry is the man.

[jsw_81]

32. Please tell me you're joking

[Bread and Circus]

34. Is this a joke?

[earthsea wizard]

43. Here's my reasoning.

1) Dean never really "quit" so a return to "active" campaigning wouldn't be that much of a stretch.

2) Dean 50% back in keeps Nader 100% out.

3) Dean can turn his campaign into a sort of "Let discuss ways to challenge Bush" staying extremely positive throughout.

4) Dean back in keeps the media focused on the Dems, and Dean can play the roll of virtual VP, going after Bush with all his famous "anger." Dean is already labled angry by the media, so he has nothing to lose there. Better yet, put that lable to good use, let Dean get dirty while Kerry stay clean.

5) Going back in keeps Dean in the media, which is good news for his new activist group.

6) IF something happens to Kerry (health, scandal, etc), we still have a back up.

7) It would cost Dean virtually nothing to stay in the race strategically. Look at Sharpton and Kucinich. Where is their money?

As a personal note:

8) The purple faces of the Kerry supporters on DU would be too entertaining!

[Robb]

35. Yes, and here's why.

It's March.

For the next 8 months, the Dems are out of free press. Super Tuesday barely got covered outside of the vote-tallying hours, because it wasn't very interesting to the media.

Dean "un-suspending" his campaign will get headlines. It won't hurt Kerry. Dean probably wouldn't have a chance.

But if Kerry and Sharpton are the only ones still on the ballots, the only person who can get free press (barring a scandal) will be Bush. :shrug:

[argonne]

37. "Dean probably wouldn't have a chance."

Going out on a limb on this?

[Robb]

40. Hey, it's a weird planet these days

I wouldn't count anything out. ;)

[deutsey]

36. No.

.

[mrgorth]

38. No

It'd make him look stupid. He should support Kerry.

[BootinUp]

39. Absolutely not

If you want Dean to have any future in politics then do not wish this on him.

[Padraig18]

41. No.

Howard left with his dignity intact, and last night's VT win was a crowning finish for a classy guy; all his re-entry would accomplish now would be to subvert the very goals that remain to be achieved, and tarnish the wonderful reputation of the man who restored to us the will to win, and showed us how it could be done.

:)

[earthsea wizard]

44. Kick

Because I love rejection :D

45. troublemaker!

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[zoeyfong]

46. He never should have gotten out. I'd be happy if he got back in.

[eridani]

48. This Kucitizen sez yes!

The more people in the race, the more the Rethug slime machine doesn't knwo where to aim.

[hellhathnofury]

49. Only if the Repubs obliterate Kerry before the convention.