Endorsing the losing candidate so you can later endorse the winner too = Good politics

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Most politicians need the votes of the Clinton backers and the Obama backers when they run the next time. It makes sense for them to figure out which one will probably lose the nomination and endorse him, knowing they can also endorse the winner of the nomination later and everybody's happy.

Didn't Gore endorse the popular Howard Dean and then Kerry? Everybody was happy.

[ecstatic]

1. good spin. LOL nt

[Labors of Hercules]

5. Interesting. Don't know that I agree, but interesting anyway.

:shrug:

[loveangelc]

25. not really..

[dkf]

2. Ya know, I bet a good way to get on the bad side of Hillary

Clinton is to endorse her opponent.

I would not do so lightly.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

6. The Clintons aren't known for holding political grudges.

[Occam Bandage]

14. Man, you keep the hits coming!

[chascarrillo]

55. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Holy crap, that was funny.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Dude, if you don't stop spinning you're gonna hurt yourself.

Right now you're pulling more Gs than a centrifuge.

[Tulkas]

4. So THAT'S why some have endorsed Hillary. Not a good reason but a reason

I suppose it keeps Bill from attacking them.

[JVS]

7. If you were really not bothered by this endorsement, you wouldn't have started so many threads...

demeaning its value.

[MonkeyFunk]

8. Don't you ever

embarrass yourself?

[Occam Bandage]

9. This is the most hilarious spin I have ever seen in my life.

Endorsements are bad!

:thumbsup:

[Proud2BAmurkin]

13. Endorsements aren't bad but there is more than meets the eye in politics

but you know that

[Occam Bandage]

17. Keep diggin'. You're quickly turning yourself into a clown.

[MadBadger]

32. Wait, p2's not a clown already?

[Occam Bandage]

33. He already had the makeup and the red nose. He just put on a pair of floppy shoes.

[Island Blue]

10. So thaaat's why there was an early rush to endorse Mike Gravel.

Oh, wait a minute ...

[DJ13]

11. How often in the past has a powerful person endorsed the loser in the primaries

And then come out in the GE and been effective in trying to support the candidate they didnt like enough to endorse in the first place?

[Proud2BAmurkin]

16. Gore in 04

[RaleighNCDUer]

29. Gore's 2nd endorsement ALSO LOST. I didn't then see him

endorsing Bush.

Of course, if people had listened to Gore in the first place and backed Dean, instead of working to sabatoge him, President Dean would be running for his 2nd term right now.

But no, like Edwards today, Dean was 'too angry'. (And the DLC despise him.)

[Proud2BAmurkin]

35. Endorsing Bush would have been stupid

[matcom]

12. YAY!!! ANOTHER THREAD FROM YOU!!!!

don't go away. EVER!!!!1

[Thrill]

15. I must admit, you're really trying today. lol

[AX10]

18. According to Obamites, that only holds true..

if you are not endorsing the "Messiah".

[Occam Bandage]

23. Actually, according to Obamites (and everyone else who is still sane), that never holds true.

[Tatiana]

19. LOL... you're reaching there, but I can't help but admire your effort. n/t

[tammywammy]

20. You should really just stop

You're an embarrassment to the Hillary campaign and her good and decent supporters here on DU.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

21. Thanks but would you like to discuss the possibility that there are selfish agendas in politics?

[tammywammy]

Would you like to discuss that possibly

Senator Kennedy just thinks Obama is the better candidate? Especially when just yesterday you were talking about why and how Kennedy wouldn't endorse Obama.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4220796&mesg_id=4221524

[Proud2BAmurkin]

27. There is that possibility but I don't buy it from most politicians

[tammywammy]

38. So what you list of politicans that you "buy it" from?

[Occam Bandage]

39. The ones who don't endorse Obama.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

51. Wellstone woulda been one

[alcibiades_mystery]

59. Ugh...given your cynical and destructive politics it's truly galling to see you

invoke the name of Wellstone.

Wellstone was a fine and caring and honest man. You, on the other hand, are a petty and scheming asshole.

[tammywammy]

47. It's been an hour since I first asked

What's your list of politicians you'd "buy it" from?

[Proud2BAmurkin]

52. Wellstone, maybe Carter if he knew the candidates for a long time

[tammywammy]

53. So you list is two people

one of whom is dead.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

54. Those are the only ones whod make me stop and consider the endorsement

should there be more?

[tammywammy]

56. So all other politicians in your mind

have a selfish agenda when it comes to endorsements?

[Nailzberg]

22. This is why I don't have you on ignore. You make me laugh.

:rofl:

Must be why Bill Clinton is backing Hillary. So he can endorse the winner later.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

24. Me, too.

I had him/her on Ignore for awhile, then undid it. He/she is way too interesting to watch, kind of like a cross between a train wreck and The Gong Show.

[tammywammy]

26. Have them on ignore

F that, I have them on my buddy list. ;)

[MadBadger]

28. I just unignored him, cuz I need to see the ridiculousness every so often.

[Zueda]

30. Would you rather the eventual nominee not get an endorsement or support at all?

I really think you've lost it today! :shrug:

[Proud2BAmurkin]

31. I spose my point is endorsements don't mean that much coming from politicians

[Occam Bandage]

34. So you hope, and hope desperately.

[Tulkas]

36. Super Delegates

Ted is one and can deliver others


They may count, we shall see

[Zueda]

37. And when they're en masse?

[karynnj]

40. The "popular" Dean and than Kerry - rather biased there

Dean never got the support Kerry did in any primary except Vermont.

[cali]

41. you know jackshit about politics and i doubt you know jackshit

about anything else- except for how to embarass yourself. That you're an expert at.

People here LOVE to laugh at you. And you don't even seem to get that.

[Political Heretic]

42. lol wut?

[Lerkfish]

43. ...

I'm not allowed to reply to this poster

[LordJFT]

44. Actually if you care about keeping everyone happy...

A much better thing to do would be to wait until there's a nominee to endorse

[Proud2BAmurkin]

50. not in a particularly divisive race

[democrat2thecore]

45. SEE ALL THESE NEGATIVE THREADS? Making a point is all. -nt

[matcom]

46. KICK

[Nimrod2005]

48. Idiot

[never_get_over_it]

49. Ok that is so ridiculous

I use to head the endorsement efforts of an environmental group. One important factor was electability/viability - these recent run of endorsements have come because the endorsees think that Obama will eventually be the nominee. An endorsement in the general for a Dem by a Dem is a given and next to meaningless. Therefore an endorsement in a primary IS SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT - these people are endorsing Obama BECAUSE they think he will be the nominee - and because they want favor with him if he does -

Come on folks look at the timing Kerry comes out after Iowa - Obama has the big mo - and Kennedy's come out after SC - couldn't be more transparent.....

[Tatiana]

57. For matcom

:kick:

[alcibiades_mystery]

58. And it's better to lose by 30% than by 15%

Someone should collect your various spins for a scarpbook on the absurd.

You're truly in the great Dada tradition!

[Tatiana]

60. For good politics...

:kick: