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jamess Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:09 PM
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The Race for Delegates is NOT Over
Delegate rules in Super Tuesday states might not produce clear front-runners

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In a two- or three-person race such as the Democrats', proportional allocation means candidates will win some delegates in virtually every state, raising the possibility of a tie, or at least an unsettled race, after Super Tuesday. If there's no final decision on Super Tuesday, operatives in both parties said, attention would turn to primaries in Texas and Ohio on March 4, in Pennsylvania on April 22 and in other states.
...

"We're in uncharted territory," said Burdett Loomis, a University of Kansas political-science professor.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/orl-campaign21a08jan21,0,1579937.story
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Well let's take time for an objective analysis of that Delegate Race ...
Sometimes a Picture or two is worth a 1000 rants ...


I've compiled the Delegate Counts from CNN's Politics page, as of the morning after the South Carolina Primary:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D

These CNN Counts include Pledged Super Delegates.



These Pie Charts tell the story a still quite competitive race:


Pledged Delegates for the first 4 States




Pledged Delegated for ALL States




Pledged Delegates for ALL States Vs ALL Remaining Delegates






I've also supplements this with the Unpledged Delegates from Super Tuesday:

Starting with the baseline numbers from this Election Lineup site








As most objective analysis are now admitting, this still won't be decided by Super Tuesday. 1902 Delegates are up for grabs that day -- no one Candidate is likely to get enough of them, to get to that Magic number needed to win: 2025

Pledged Delegates for ALL States Vs Number of Delegate needed to win





So the race is still on ... it's a long ways from over.
A lot can happen in 3 months.

The best thing to do is to GET BUSY, supporting your Candidate.

As Professor Loomis noted well:

"We're in uncharted territory"



It's probably a good time to dig out those maps:

the Feb 5th Schedule:

Alabama (60, PP);
Alaska (18, CC);
Arizona (67, PP);
Arkansas (47, PP);
California (441, PP);
Colorado (71, CC);
Connecticut (60, PP);
Delaware (23, PP);
Democrats Abroad (11, PP+CC);
Georgia (103, PP);
Idaho (23, CC);
Illinois (185, PP);
Kansas (41, CC);
Massachusetts (121, PP);
Minnesota (88, CC);
Missouri (88, PP);
New Jersey (127, PP);
New Mexico (38, PP);
New York (281, PP);
North Dakota (21, CC);
Oklahoma (47, PP);
Tennessee (85, PP);
Utah (29, PP)

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/ccad.phtml
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The fight to Take OUR Country Back Continues

(as does the Fight to Keep it, no doubt.)




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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:12 PM
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1. Super delegates are not pledged. Other than that, these are great points
to remember. We have a long way to go, and we still won't have a clear winner after BigTues.
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jamess Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:28 PM
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5. Our Voices are still NOT being heard
This elections SHOULD be about fixing past,
NOT ridiculing and discarding the past.

Justice demands righting past wrongs,
Like those neglect of New Orleans,

NOT just the building of some "brave new world",
with a "new kind of politics" and "nice thoughts".

Our Voices are still NOT being heard,
among the shouting rabble of "yes we can".

Obama has the rhetoric, of change,
for not the hard work, and commitment it takes
to make change happen, IMO.

Feel Good Politics just won't get it done.

NYTimes

Candidates Outline Ideas for Universal Health Care

March 25, 2007

Senator Barack Obama of Illinois appeared less conversant with the details of health policy and sometimes found himself on the defensive, trying to explain why he had yet to offer a detailed plan to cover all Americans.

“The most important challenge is to build a political consensus around the need to solve this problem,” Mr. Obama said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/us/politics/25dems.html?_r=5&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=login


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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:13 PM
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2. This thing is far from over.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:16 PM
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3. Thank you. Very easy to understand with the graphics you provide.
Another check to Edwards going out come payday. Small check, but if others do same, it just might help get the leadership we need.
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jamess Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:23 PM
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4. thanks havocmom
Edwards continues to Fight for the nomination
and so will I

His cause is just!

The People deserve a Voice,
exactly because the COM does not give us one.

MLK III asked Edwards to continue the Fight for social justice
and I'm sure John will.


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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:32 PM
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6. Hope you don't mind. I pinched one of your pie charts to my photo host
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 05:32 PM by havocmom
and will post it along with link to this thread at every opportunity. Most educational.

edit: typo
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jamess Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:39 AM
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14. No problem
post away

that's why I made the charts
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:34 PM
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7. All the more reason why JE should stay in all the way through the convention. Even if he don't win,
there is no telling what type of influence he will have when it's all said and done.


Go, John, Go.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:37 PM
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8. Mmmmm, I LOVE pie.
Nice charts.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:39 PM
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9. jamess - you are the King of Graphs!
I love it!

K&R! for Edwards!
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jamess Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:13 PM
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10. thanks hope
you are too kind.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:25 PM
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11. I'm surprised this only has four recs!
Someone linked this thread from another thread or I would've missed it.

Thanks very much for these charts. They show us how much left there is to fight for. Even those of us who know better than to listen to what the media is only telling us, sometimes don't realize HOW much more there is to the story that isn't being discussed.

I knew Obama would take SC, but there is so much left for Edwards to win. I will take the endorsement from MLK Jr's son, as a sign to fight on with John.
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:39 PM
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12. Louisiana votes Feb. 9th -
I don't know how many delegates we have???? :shrug:
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jamess Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:18 PM
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13. Louisiana has 66 Delegates in a primary
which takes place Sat Feb 9th

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/ccad.phtml

don't forget to vote!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:06 AM
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15. Kick for the work week
There is lots of work to be done and every reason to do it!

:kick:
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