The grand opening of *anybodybutdean.com*

[TeacherCreature]

Please go take a look at this site. It is a riot!

http://www.anybodybutdean.com

[goobergunch]

1. You may want to edit your post - the asteriks are probably "excessive" nt

[edzontar]

7. Is this a joke? Or just a site run by idiots?

"We are not Republicans."

If they ARE serious--and who could tell, given the wretched quality of this pitiful site, I think they protestest too much?

Are you out there Marcus?

Paging "Rage against their (our?)Machine?!!!!

Is this your doing, beloved friends?

[worldgonekrazy]

52. I wondered the same

What an ugly site. I could make a better website than that and I haven't been in practice for years.

Plus they are a bunch of cowards because you notice they give no contact info (ie an email address or web form). I guess I can't really blame them for not wanting to reap what they sow.

Fuckin' idiots.

[TeacherCreature]

9. thanks Goob

I wonder if one asterik on each side is okay?

[goobergunch]

23. It ought to be IMHO

BTW, that site is hilariously bad. Thanks for posting this!

[chocolateeater]

19. I don't know they seem to

match the website really well.:evilgrin:
The page about Lao Tzu was really something.

[markus]

34. Lao Tzu

"what, howard, did you read this on a fortune cookie while stoned"? Man, and they say Bush* Haters are bad. These folks have a serious anger management problem.

[plurality]

63. aside from the fact that Lao Tzu was an amazingly profound philosopher

Anyone who disses him loses all credibility in my mind. Especially by calling it 'fortune cookie' philosophy. In fact I find that borderline rascist.

[judge_smales]

2. If it's a joke

I guess it's pretty good.

[TeacherCreature]

15. If it was a joke, even I could do it better

A real parody site would be smarter. This one is a riot because of how terribly stupid it is.

[OrAnarch]

3. terrible webskills

I amazed at such poor craftsmanship. Theyll never be taken seriously. :)

[dodgerartful]

11. I really doubt they are who they say they are

like much of the web. Content is skewed, too many false claims on the first page alone, why bother?

[TLM]

4. Wow I've seen finger painting by retarded 8 year olds

that looked better than that website.

[slinkerwink]

5. I wish you wouldn't bring attention to sites like these---they deserve to

die off from a lack of hits.

[TLM]

8. No let the guy get lots and lots of hits from Dean supporters

then he/she will think they've got all this support... yet be sorely disappointed when they find the truth.

[TeacherCreature]

20. I am wondering how you join

I think people might like to join this Big Movement (BM)!

[shivaji]

21. Agreed, stupidity is best ignored!

Happy New Year to all Dean supporters!!
Keep up the fantastic job y'all doing.

[burning bush]

6. I thought the site was serious at first

but it appears to be a comedy spot.

A sad, lonely little comedy site, where no one is laughing except the Dean supporters!

[last1standing]

10. 'Anybody but Dean"

I wonder if they include bush* in that.

[bicentennial_baby]

12. Can't be real

"We are over-educated. We eat brie and drink Perrier. We watch Jim Lehrer’s Newshour and the West Wing. We wake up early on Sundays to watch Meet the Press. We think about how nice Volvos are. We read the Atlantic Monthly, Maureen Dowd, and listen to NPR."

http://www.anybodybutdean.com/About_Us.htm

[chiburb]

18. Hey! I resemble that remark!

And I'm undecided...

[rodbarnett]

13. This one is for real ... Punx for Dean

http://www.punxfordean.org/

[TeacherCreature]

22. Thanks for posting this one

I love the punxfordean site. This woman has signed up a massive amount of supporters for Dean. I think it is great that Dean is appealing to this group of voters.

[arwalden]

14. I'm Still Undecided... But This Site Was Of NO HELP AT ALL

If anything it only makes me suspicious of those that oppose Dean. It's a bit juvenile and amateurish and I doubt anyone will take it too serioiusly.

Maybe the joke's on ME? Perhaps that's what the webmaster intended it to be... spoofing the Dean-Opposers.

-- Allen

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

17. I'm thinking it's a parody

It was a little too over the top to be real. :shrug:

[TeacherCreature]

24. well there are anyone but Dean people here

they are self professed and have started a yahoo group that has about 30 members. They said they were starting a web site. :shrug:

[HFishbine]

30. Would that be why they included a link

to some DUers' favorite anti-Dean propaganda?

http://www.anybodybutdean.com/crypto-republican.htm

Follow the link at the bottom of the page. It will look familiar if you've been paying attention.

0110111101100011011101000110000101100110011010010111001101101000

[TeacherCreature]

48. yes it does all look very familiar

These are the same talking points we have become way to accustomed to seeing.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

65. If that is the case then it really is a pretty disgusting propaganda hit

piece that will be used against ALL DEMS should Dean win the primary..I have my concerns about Dean as I do with darn near all of the candidates, but the same way most of what was used against Al Gore via smears was created on the left..this will be too.

[janx]

61. I'll be darned! That's the same link that someone provided

in Brian_ExPat's thread last night!

It's the same awful drivel!

[madfloridian]

44. I remember that.

The ones with GWU. Maybe not. Maybe I am confused again. I stay confused. I am happier that way.

[_NorCal_D_]

16. Looks like a joke to me.

:shrug:

[SahaleArm]

25. Read the about Page...

Some of the content here may initially appear to be based on some irrational disgust with Howard Dean. To be sure, we are frustrated at the notion that the young people the media portrays in Dean's camp are representative of the next political generation in America. And, to be sure, some of the content is designed primarily for amusement. Within most of what we have put up here, though, is legitimate political criticism. We trust our readers to differentiate between what is intended as our substantive criticism of Governor Dean, what is intended to generate a laugh, and what is intended to accomplish both. Our goals for you: have some fun poking around the site, learn a few things you may not have about Dean and his "movement," and, ultimately, vote for anyone… but Dean.

http://www.anybodybutdean.com/About_Us.htm

On Edit: Whois

Domain Name: ANYBODYBUTDEAN.COM
Registrant: Artemis Artemis [e-mail]
Artemis Strategies
PO Box 21085
Waco TX 76702
US Domain Name: ANYBODYBUTDEAN.COM
Administrative Contact: Artemis Artemis [e-mail] 254-776-9610
Technical, Zone Contact:
DomainName Registrar [e-mail]
DomainName, Inc.
P.O. Box 711
Newburyport MA 01950 US
1.978.462.5505
Created: 07-Dec-2003
Expires: 06-Dec-2004
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.DomainName.com DNS1.Reserved.net

[Scott Lee]

29. Try looking for a contact email.

Oh dear, it appears the sophmoric imbeciles who designed and posted this site either didn't think that far ahead, or really don't want to be contacted.

*snicker*

[SahaleArm]

54. All the data is fake - See below n/t

[Walt Starr]

55. Ahh yes, but then look up Artemis Strategies on Google

and you get this:

Artemis Strategies, LLC Opens for Business.
PR Newswire, Feb 13, 2003

WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON, Feb. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Artemis Strategies, LLC, a newly created government relations firm whose client resources also include public affairs and strategic communications services, has opened for business with offices in Washington, D.C., Houston and San Francisco. Seven founding partners, with a wealth of federal, state and international experience, established the firm:

Timothy F. Powers, Co-chairman (Washington office) -- Mr. Powers, formerly deputy director of the Republican National Committee's (RNC) Congressional Affairs and Strategic Planning operation, left a solo government and public affairs practice, PowerStrategies, for Artemis Strategies. He previously spent six years as a principal at the PodestaMattoon government relations firm. He served on the Bush/Cheney Transition Team and founded the K Street Crowd, an informal network of Republican government affairs professionals that provides a critical link between the GOP leadership, party committees and the downtown community.

Ari Storch, Co-chairman (Washington) -- Mr. Storch comes to Artemis Strategies from Rhoads/Weber Shandwick Government Relations. He has served as a senior consultant to Cassidy and Associates and as vice president of National Strategies, Inc., and was political and Congressional affairs director for the Republican Jewish Coalition. He also was the in-house lobbyist at the Embassy of Israel for both the Peres and Netanyahu governments. In 2001 President George W. Bush appointed him to serve as a member of the U.S. Commission for the Preservation of America's Heritage Abroad.

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m4PRN/2003_Feb_13/97581925/p1/article.jhtml?term=

I think it's fairly obvious what's going on here.

[mandyky]

81. Pathetic how they stereotype young Dems

The ABD core at anybodybutdean.com is a group of young, politically oriented graduate students and young professionals. We closely follow politics, but none of us work for a campaign. We are over-educated. We eat brie and drink Perrier. We watch Jim Lehrer’s Newshour and the West Wing. We wake up early on Sundays to watch Meet the Press. We think about how nice Volvos are. We read the Atlantic Monthly, Maureen Dowd, and listen to NPR. Individually, we are all over the map on the major issues: foreign policy, taxation, health care, entitlement spending. We look like the media characterization of the people at Dean rallies, and if you listen to the attendants, you’d think everyone there was just like us. We do not believe that these boisterous youth should be assumed to be speaking for all young voters, or all “progressives.” We vote.

They probably want Joe Lieberman and listen to Rush and Hannity more often than they watch the West Wing. Dean is so much like the Josiah Barlett character, don't ya think?

[burning bush]

26. Two things stick out:

on this site (Check the 'About Us' link...), the first appears to be an unintentional joke:

Our content is driven by people under 30, not by a professional political staff. Our website is run by a tech-savvy and creative single mom

Tech savy?

Okaaayyyyy....

And the second (which actually comes first, chronologically), tells you everything you need to know about the values of the people who put this sad little site together:

None of us voted for Bush and, unless Dean wins the nomination, none plan on voting for Bush in 2004

So, these losers want us to believe they are life long Dems who will vote for Bush if Dean is nominated?

I'm sorry, but anyone who would vote for Bush over ANY Dem is braindead. No...not brain dead, brain-"less".

Wait...Is there any category of brain inactivity that sits lower then brainless? How about brain draining? Ack - I give up, there is simply no way to convey the level of stupidity that this site has reached. At least not in English.

[maddezmom]

27. what a f'ing joke

guess they need to use the large font, to make it look like they have more info. What a waste.

[Hawkeye-X]

28. Whois info on AnybodybutDean.com (from geektools.com)

Domain Name: ANYBODYBUTDEAN.COM

Registrant:
Artemis Artemis [e-mail]
Artemis Strategies
PO Box 21085
Waco TX 76702 US

Domain Name: ANYBODYBUTDEAN.COM

Administrative Contact:
Artemis Artemis [e-mail]
Artemis Strategies
PO Box 21085
Waco TX 76702 US
254-776-9610

Technical, Zone Contact:
DomainName Registrar [e-mail]
DomainName, Inc.
P.O. Box 711
Newburyport MA 01950 US
1.978.462.5505

Created: 07-Dec-2003
Expires: 06-Dec-2004

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.DomainName.com
DNS1.Reserved.net

http://DomainName.com -- Reserve Your Place In Cyber Space (tm)

[Hawkeye-X]

31. Nailed down the true owner of AnybodybutDean.com

Google of "Artemis Strategies" provided me a name -- Timothy Powers.

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?txtName=Powers%2C+Timothy&NumOfThou=0&txt2004=Y&submit=Go%21

He's a $2,000 GWB donor.

Hawkeye-X

[maddezmom]

32. excellent work Hawkeye

:)

[HFishbine]

35. Maybe

The phone number and adrress provided in the domain name registration are fake. Someone may have falsely used Artemis Strategies too.

Here's the real phone number for Artemis Strategies, they might be interested if someone is fraudulently using their name: 202.408.8001

[AntiCoup2K4]

49. Area code 202??

So, a Texan with a DC area code.... Now who do you suppose they work for :eyes:

[salin]

82. DC... as in home of George Washington University

no wonder some of that rhetoric on "who we are" sounded so very familiar.

[_NorCal_D_]

37. That would explain it.

B-)

[chocolateeater]

38. Thank You.

Gee, a GWB donor trying to stoke dissension in the Democratic Party. Who'd
have thought it.:evilgrin:

[NashVegas]

41. More

WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON, Feb. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Artemis Strategies, LLC, a newly created government relations firm whose client resources also include public affairs and strategic communications services, has opened for business with offices in Washington, D.C., Houston and San Francisco. Seven founding partners, with a wealth of federal, state and international experience, established the firm:

Timothy F. Powers, Co-chairman (Washington office) -- Mr. Powers, formerly deputy director of the Republican National Committee's (RNC) Congressional Affairs and Strategic Planning operation, left a solo government and public affairs practice, PowerStrategies, for Artemis Strategies. He previously spent six years as a principal at the PodestaMattoon government relations firm. He served on the Bush/Cheney Transition Team and founded the K Street Crowd, an informal network of Republican government affairs professionals that provides a critical link between the GOP leadership, party committees and the downtown community.

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m4PRN/2003_Feb_13/97581925/p1/article.jhtml

[Bozola]

50. Here's more data for ya, Hawkeye.

Stephen P. Powers, Partner, Artemis Strategies.

Lookie, another Pioneer!



http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m4PRN/2003_Feb_13/97581925/p2/article.jhtml?term=



http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?txtName=Payne&txtState=TX&txtZip=&txtEmploy=&txtCand=&txt2004=Y&txt2002=Y&txt2000=Y&txt1998=&txt1996=&txt1994=&txt1992=&txt1990=&txtSoft=N&Order=N&Cycles=3&Cycle1=2004&Cycle2=2002&Cycle3=2000&Page=5

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?txtName=Payne&txtState=TX&txtZip=&txtEmploy=&txtCand=&txt2004=Y&txt2002=Y&txt2000=Y&txt1998=&txt1996=&txt1994=&txt1992=&txt1990=&txtSoft=N&Order=N&Cycles=3&Cycle1=2004&Cycle2=2002&Cycle3=2000&Page=6


7/3/2003 $580 Bush, George W
6/30/2003 $2,000 Bush, George W
5/8/2003 $2,000 Hastert, Dennis
8/22/2003 $2,000 Hutchison, Kay Bailey
8/22/2003 $2,000 Hutchison, Kay Bailey
8/30/2002 $1,000 Chambliss, Saxby
8/20/2002 $1,000 Coleman, Norm
8/20/2002 $1,000 Good Government Fund
8/20/2002 $1,000 Talent, James M
8/20/2002 $1,000 Good Government Fund
8/20/2002 $1,000 Good Government Fund
8/20/2002 $1,000 Thune, John
8/15/2002 $250 Cornyn, John
4/18/2002 $100,000 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte
2/8/2001 $510 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte
2/1/2001 $5,000 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte
1/30/2001 $3,950 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte
9/15/2000 $500 Hutchison, Kay Bailey
6/30/1999 $1,000 Bush, George W
6/30/1999 $1,000 Bush, George W

[Mz Pip]

57. Good catch!

The whole site seemed pretty silly.

MzPip
:dem:

[Toucano]

67. Fantastic detective work!

I've differed with you in the past, but I am so proud of your work here. With detectives like you on our side, the RW smears won't work like they have in the past.

Thanks.

[HFishbine]

33. Two possibilities

Either someone is being very clever (kudos, if you are) by registering the name under Artemis Strategies and trying to throw us off the scent (The problem is the address is fake).

Or, republicans are behind it. The partners of Artemis Strategis are Bush "rangers."

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:bz3aEmBBE8kJ:www.whitehouseforsale.org/documents/3Q_Rng_Pio_facts.pdf+%22Artemis+Strategies%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:WP7uA-JOM64J:www.commoncause.org/justwatch/101003_Report_charts.pdf+%22Artemis+Strategies%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[markus]

36. This is a tasty cable talk tidbit. Who do we get it in front of?

eom

[HFishbine]

39. Nobody yet

Someone could have registered the name under Artemis Strategies as a deception. Someone could call Artemis Strategies and ask if they know about the site: 202.408.8001

[drfemoe]

69. nobody ever said repukes are smart .. n/t

[CovingtonCountyAL]

53. Another Bush Pioneer ($100,000.00) at Artemis

Payne, Stephen--Partner, Artemis Strategies
go to:
http://www.commoncause.org/justwatch/101003_Report_charts.pdf
he is on page two of the Pioneer list for Bush

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

70. Thanks Hawkeye

[Pavlovs DiOgie]

77. Kick for the truth!

[Myra]

80. Thanks HawkeyeX et al

We have great detectives on DU!

[madfloridian]

40. They left the s off Fundamentalist.

QUOTE: "We aren't swayed by the fundamentalist that surrounds Dean supporters...."

That or they left out a word. Wow, that is a terribly done site.

[HFishbine]

42. More to consider

Again, I'm being very cautious, this could be a big frame up, but...

The address and phone number in the domain registration are fake. The inclusion of Artemis Strategies should be suspect too, but, for those who want to keep digging, notice that the technical contact in the domain record, the one thing not likely to be faked is in MA. Now this:

Artemis Strategies current clients include GE Capital Mortgage, e-Bay, Heinz Food and the Government of Pakistan.

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2003/02/10/daily39.html

[burning bush]

59. Heinz Foods?

Did you catch that?

You're not saying what I think you're saying, are ya? ;)

[HFishbine]

60. I'm saying

it would be damn nice to know for sure if Artemis Strategies is indeed behind this. We can go from there if they are.

[Fleshdancer]

43. pardon me....

while I go post the information and phone number for Artemis on the Dean blog. :evilgrin:

[DianeK]

45. interesting...

they leave no way to leave comments or even to email them

[salinen]

46. My first thought was repuke

and now I'm more convinced it's repuke. pigfuckers!

[WilliamPitt]

47. That's the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life

:eyes:

[Hawkeye-X]

51. You and me both...

:eyes:

But at least I took the time to dig the tech info avaliable and figure out who owns that website.

:evilgrin:

Hawkeye-X

[Hep]

56. Cowards don't even stand up and say who they are.

S'OK, looks like the work of third graders anyway.

[helleborient]

58. I guess Hawkeye's detective work proves the fear from the Bush camp

Of a Howard Dean candidacy.

Why else attempt something as ridiculous as this?

No need to listen to the garbage about Republicans wanting Howard Dean to win...it at least appears that this Bush pioneer and Republican contributor wants anyone else but Dean.

[edzontar]

62. What is most telling is how much this reflects some the crud here today..

All the "I HATE DEAN" posts that are coming from so-called Kucinich and Kerry supporters, for example.

It seems that we are swamped with this uselss garbage here lately.

And I doubt if it is all coming from supporters of other Dem candidates.

[hedda_foil]

64. Now here's a vicious little twist.

We've got a thoroughly RNC strategy firm posting a purportedly Dems against Dean website and linking it, for good measure, to Dr. Norman Livergood's anti-Dean page, which ends with an appeal to vote for and donate to Kerry. I have a lot of respect for Livergood, though I obviously disagree with him vehemently on his view of Dean, and I'm quite sure he has nothing to do with the Repuke scam site as he thoroughly despises Bush and everything this cabal stands for.

A vicious underground oppo site to make use of our primary battle to pit followers of one Dem against those of another and vice versa.

[HFishbine]

66. Or

We have people who agree with Livergood and are tyring to make it appear as if the site is operated by republicans.

[drfemoe]

68. well

haven't we known for some time that *league is already coming after Dean? And using "Democrats" to do it?

And they say he can't take on ****. haha He's doin it.

[Darranar]

71. I'm no fan of Dean...

but that site is just ridiculous.

[Kathleen04]

72. Check out the photo gallery...

LOL..that is so lame.

[genius]

73. Great site. I added it to my favorites.

They seem to have Howard's number.

[flaminbats]

74. me too! It's an inspiration, all young voters must see it.

God bless the Power of Pride and the leadership of Simon. :tinfoilhat:

[Patriot_Spear]

79. Looks like it's owned and funded by DC Repukes...

Still think it's a great site?

[Champion Jack]

75. Kicked for the great detective work

:kick:

[stickdog]

76. Alternate Link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=132

[LuminousX]

78. Our website is run by a tech-savvy and creative single mom

LOL...

run by a spastic monkey.

[Bozola]

83. Anyone out there who's bored? Let's shut 'em down.

I believe that HFishbine is right. The admin contact is a setup. It's too obvious, and nothing matches.

So what the f*ck. They had their pathetic little joke. Let's shut them down.



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