George W. Bush>>>Barack Obama (Meet the wanna-be new boss, same as the old boss)

[journalist3072]

This is George W. Bush in January 2005, just days before his second inauguration, in an interview with the Washington Post, speaking about his "accountability moment:"

The Post: In Iraq, there's been a steady stream of surprises. We weren't welcomed as liberators, as Vice President Cheney had talked about. We haven't found the weapons of mass destruction as predicted. The postwar process hasn't gone as well as some had hoped. Why hasn't anyone been held accountable, either through firings or demotions, for what some people see as mistakes or misjudgments?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, we had an accountability moment, and that's called the 2004 election. And the American people listened to different assessments made about what was taking place in Iraq, and they looked at the two candidates, and chose me, for which I'm grateful.

Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12570-2005Jan15.html


And now, ladies and gentlemen, allow me to present Barack Obama...


Obama was asked specifically about a paragraph in an endorsement in Sunday's editions of the Chicago Tribune that calls on him to "divulge all there is to know about that relationship."

The editorial continues: "Until you do, the journalistic scrubbing and opposition research will intensify. You should have recognized Rezko as a political seducer of young talent. But given that you've not been accused of any crime or ethical breach, your Rezko history is not a deal-breaker."

Obama responded by saying there is nothing more to say.

"This is a story that has been out there for a year and has been thoroughly gnawed on by the press, both in Chicago and nationally," he said. "Tony Rezko was a friend of mine, a supporter, who I had known for 20 years. He was a contributor, not just to myself, but Democrats, as well as some Republicans throughout Illinois. Everybody perceived him as a businessman and developer. He got into trouble that was completely unrelated to me, and nobody has suggested that I've been involved in any of those problems. I did make a mistake by purchasing a small strip of property from him, at a time where at that point he was under the cloud of a potential investigation. I've acknowledged that was a mistake. But again, nobody has suggested any wrong-doing, and I think at this point, it's important for people to recognize that I have actually provided all the information that's out there about it."

Source: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/obama_says_nothing_more_to_say.html


Meet the wanna-be new boss....same as the old boss.

[DS1]

1. I wish we could rate down threads like slashdot

This would go under -3 Desperate

[journalist3072]

3. I'm so sorry the truth doesn't bode well for you. I apologize. eom

[DS1]

7. so predictable I could've written that myself

[journalist3072]

12. Go write it on your....well, you get the picture. eom

[Richardo]

2. Wow. Did you hurt yourself making that stretch?

:eyes:

[MrsT]

4. Nice try. eom

[thunder rising]

5. Even Bush has his 29% that keep squaking loudly...HRC has hers. Damn it gets old

[thunder rising]

10. Unfortunately, HRC's 29% postitive support does not out do her 75% negatives

[HILLBILL]

53. negatives

Dear little BHO will have his negatives in due time if, god forbid he would happen to get the nomination.

[cali]

6. Could you possibly be anymore pathetic?

I pity you.

[journalist3072]

9. Sounds like you're the one that needs to be pitied. I'm so sorry you don't deal well with the facts

[Richardo]

19. If you're really a journalist, it's your publication that needs to be pitited.

Why not put a random Obama quote up against a random Bush quote and somehow equate the two. Oh wait, that's exactly what you did.

[loveangelc]

66. "If you're really a journalist, it's your publication that needs to be pitited."

lmao. srsly

[cali]

56. you can keep parroting the moronic line that anyone who doesn't

agree with you is avoiding the truth until the next decade, but your comments won't be any the less pathetic then, pookie.

[Lerkfish]

64. wait. Arent you the same guy that said they would vote republican in the GE?

oh, yeah, that's right, you were.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

8. Yes, Obama voted for the IWR like Bush wanted.

Oh, wait, that was YOUR candidate. :eyes:

[journalist3072]

11. Wanna explain your candidate's continued funding of the war? Better still, wanna explain

him saying before that there was no difference in his position on the war, and Bush's?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

15. He's not my candidate.

I'm between him and Edwards.

And do you want to explain how you can compare a land deal that doesn't implicate Obama with the long list of atrocities that Bush has committed?

If you want to make Hillary look good, then start a pro-Hillary thread. Equating Obama and Bush when no such comparison exists only makes you look foolish and desperate.

[zulchzulu]

17. Ah..misqouting Obama's quotes just like the compulsive psychopath Bill Clinton

As for the funding, should Obama not support the troops with armor and needed VA support since some dumb asses decided to put the troops in harm's way?

Do you think that the troops should be left naked in the war zones with no armor, no protection and jackshit when they come home?

[MoonRiver]

16. And Obama has voted to fund the war each and every time.

If he were REALLY against the war on principle, wouldn't he have stood his ground and voted NAY?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

20. It's more complicated than that.

He apparently didn't want to leave the troops without the necessary equipment, since they were already on the ground.

But he did speak out against the war from the start. Hillary still hasn't denounced it.

[zulchzulu]

21. Should Obama vote against protecting the troops who were sent into this stupid war?

Should the troops have no armor, no protection, no support when they come back injured or dead from the war that Hillary Clinton happily voted for? Should Obama abandon the troops that are in the war zones that Hillary Clinton helped create?

Answer that.

[zulchzulu]

13. You're holding on to the vetted Rezko story like a rabid dog with a rat bone

Your line of attack on Obama is based on some inner anger issues on your part. The story has been vetted and even Patrick Fitzgerald has said that Obama has done nothing wrong.

Put the bone down.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

14. Slander? Character Assasination? WTF?

[stevedeshazer]

18. That's just about the dumbest comparison I've ever read on DU.

Comparing Obama to Bush. That's just plain spiteful and stupid.

What next? Hitler? Stalin?

Please, give me a break. :eyes:

[journalist3072]

22. No...that would be THE TRUTH. eom

[sniffa]

26. And you'd be a journalist.

:rofl:

[stevedeshazer]

39. And I'm the Easter Bunny

[aquart]

23. Nah, his fans have completely discounted his corruption.

It's just impolite to mention it to them. The messiah does not have faults. We must all bow down to the inevitable. Or the insufferable. Whichever.

Aside from the Bushies, I don't think I've ever heard of nastier supporters of any candidate than the appalling Obama supporters.

[journalist3072]

27. Totally agree with you. They are a disgusting bunch. eom

[Occam Bandage]

32. Pot calling the daisy black.

[dansolo]

51. At most, his corruption is on par with the Clintons

Remember Whitewater? Personally I feel that neither issue is anything more than typical things that goes on with all politicians. I don't think that Obama is pristine, but to suggest that Hillary's record is spotless is absolutely laughable.

[aquart]

52. I never suggested she was "spotless."

I don't want a candidate billed as the "messiah."

But it's good to know that you've decided to be comfortable with corruption. And that Whitewater is suddenly a real prosecution. I actually remember it very well. There was no money in it. Obama? $300,000. Well, at least we know he's an excellent liar. That's a real political asset.

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[journalist3072]

25. Grow up. I'm simply reporting facts. I said nothing in my OP that violated DU rules

and should cause me to be banned.

I simply equated Obama's 'lets move on here..nothing to see here' moment, with George W. Bush's.

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[journalist3072]

33. Who are you to tell me I'm not a progressive? Because I want to hold Obama (and ALL candidates)

accountable, I'm not a progressive?

Becaue I have the temerity to call out Obama on his not wanting to be held accountable?

Really, get over yourself. Quickly.

[Lerkfish]

65. You previously stated if Clinton was not the nominee, you'd vote republican

that does not make you very progressive, now does it?

[Occam Bandage]

37. Not all wastes of bandwidth are freepers.

[Occam Bandage]

30. Irony embodied.

[Occam Bandage]

28. This is perhaps the most pathetic thread I have seen, and that's saying quite a bit.

[Name removed]

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[Occam Bandage]

35. Not to be offensive, but

you have four posts, half of which are in this thread. Already with demeaning nicknames and "more X from Y" comments?

You learn fast.

[goldcanyonaz]

41. Took me over a month to know who skinner even was. I'm slow (Clinton supporter)

lol!

:hi:

[ShortnFiery]

34. Ah, using an opponent's strenth (the Anti-Bush) against him? Reading Uncle KKKarl's book, aye? eom.

[FairyTaleComeTrue]

36. It's downright inflammatory

and against forum rules. I'm sure the moderators will concur.

[Occam Bandage]

38. Welcome to DU in primary season. The mods are like

traffic-control cops at the Indy 500.

[FairyTaleComeTrue]

45. LOL

It makes me sick to see Hillary supporters bash Caroline Kennedy, John Kerry, and the black voters of SC. Is nothing sacred to these people?

[Occam Bandage]

46. Hillary supporters are Democrats, too.

For you, I'm guessing you'll make 75, maybe 100. (I'm generally quite accurate.)

[Occam Bandage]

49. Wow, I way way way overestimated you.

Didn't even hit double digits.

[goldcanyonaz]

50. !!!!!

:rofl:

[DS1]

40. WHo the fuck rec'd this piece of shit?

[Occam Bandage]

43. If you say anything negative about Obama or Clinton, you're guaranteed 7 recs at minimum.

Doesn't matter how pathetic it is; plenty of "Locking: flamebait" threads will get into double digits. Sad commentary on DU.

[Turn CO Blue]

42. Er...the real boss is Dick Cheney and there is no way in the world

that Barack Obama has done anything that ever has or ever will compare to the works of Richard Cheney.

Ugh.







Go John! All the way to Denver!

[lastliberalintexas]

54. Oh, but Obama is just like Cheney- after all they're related!

:)


It's threads like this that make me happy to have stayed out of this primary go round. It's like the 2004 DU primary season on steroids.

[smoogatz]

44. Your desperation is like fine wine to me.

Okay, it's kind of a cross between fine wine and a Three Stooges marathon. But you know what I mean.

[Jensen]

47. How is that comparison working for you?

That will be "THE DAY" that Bush* could string to sentences together!!!
In deed, I see your desperation growing!!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[sam sarrha]

48. Link>>

http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Feb2007/street0207.html

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&resnum=0&q=tony+rezko+obama&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=title

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/obamas-faustian-bargain-_b_82863.html

[Laurab]

55. Oh, yeah - Obama is JUST like GWB

Another example of why primary threads should have to have more recommendations. If any name fits into your equation, it would be HRC, and for so MANY reasons, but these posts serve no useful purpose, no matter what candidate they're bashing. There are so many more productive things to do - why waste your time on things like this?

[kid a]

57. another hillary bo

[dionysus]

58. here's the pitch... swing and a miss.

and the mighty tool has struck out.

[Name removed]

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[Radical Activist]

60. You're building a reputation for yourself.

You've posted some of the most ridiculous and offensive arguments against Obama that I've seen on DU and that isn't easy to do.

[journalist3072]

61. You need help. Seriously. eom

[Radical Activist]

62. lol

Funny that I've seen several people give you the same advice on your other threads. At least be original.

[EstimatedProphet]

63. Wait, not only that...!

Adr. Neither my husband, nor the slave return’d,
That in such haste I sent to seek his master! 4
Sure, Luciana, it is two o’clock.
Luc. Perhaps some merchant hath invited him,
And from the mart he’s somewhere gone to dinner.
Good sister, let us dine and never fret: 8
A man is master of his liberty:
Time is their master, and, when they see time,
They’ll go or come: if so, be patient, sister.
Adr. Why should their liberty than ours be more? 12
Luc. Because their business still lies out o’ door.
Adr. Look, when I serve him so, he takes it ill.
Luc. O! know he is the bridle of your will.
Adr. There’s none but asses will be bridled so. 16
Luc. Why, headstrong liberty is lash’d with woe.
There’s nothing situate under heaven’s eye
But hath his bound, in earth, in sea, in sky:
The beasts, the fishes, and the winged fowls, 20
Are their males’ subjects and at their controls.
Men, more divine, the masters of all these,
Lords of the wide world, and wild wat’ry seas,
Indu’d with intellectual sense and souls, 24
Of more pre-eminence than fish and fowls,
Are masters to their females and their lords:
Then, let your will attend on their accords.


The wearer of this cloak was a young fellow, also of about
twenty-six or twenty-seven years of age, slightly above the
middle height, very fair, with a thin, pointed and very light
coloured beard; his eyes were large and blue, and had an intent
look about them, yet that heavy expression which some people
affirm to be a peculiarity. as well as evidence, of an epileptic
subject. His face was decidedly a pleasant one for all that;
refined, but quite colourless, except for the circumstance that
at this moment it was blue with cold. He held a bundle made up of
an old faded silk handkerchief that apparently contained all his
travelling wardrobe, and wore thick shoes and gaiters, his whole
appearance being very un-Russian.

His black-haired neighbour inspected these peculiarities, having
nothing better to do, and at length remarked, with that rude
enjoyment of the discomforts of others which the common classes
so often show:

"Cold?"

"Very," said his neighbour, readily. "and this is a thaw, too.
Fancy if it had been a hard frost! I never thought it would be so
cold in the old country. I've grown quite out of the way of it."

"What, been abroad, I suppose?"

"Yes, straight from Switzerland."

"Wheugh! my goodness!" The black-haired young fellow whistled,
and then laughed.

The conversation proceeded. The readiness of the fair-haired
young man in the cloak to answer all his opposite neighbour's
questions was surprising. He seemed to have no suspicion of any
impertinence or inappropriateness in the fact of such questions
being put to him. Replying to them, he made known to the inquirer
that he certainly had been long absent from Russia, more than
four years; that he had been sent abroad for his health; that he
had suffered from some strange nervous malady--a kind of
epilepsy, with convulsive spasms. His interlocutor burst out
laughing several times at his answers; and more than ever, when
to the question, " whether he had been cured?" the patient
replied:

"No, they did not cure me."

"Hey! that's it! You stumped up your money for nothing, and we
believe in those fellows, here!" remarked the black-haired
individual, sarcastically.

"Gospel truth, sir, Gospel truth!" exclaimed another passenger, a
shabbily dressed man of about forty, who looked like a clerk, and
possessed a red nose and a very blotchy face. "Gospel truth! All
they do is to get hold of our good Russian money free, gratis,
and for nothing. "


That should convince everyone!